Ebola isn't as easily transmissible as Covid iirc, you need close contact with someone infected to get it, whereas Covid is spread even by aerosols. Of course there might eventually be some disease that combines Ebola's lethality and Covid's easy transmissibility.

Some of those meats aren't very healthy or safe when you look at them. Liver, for example. If done properly, great, if not done properly, like eating raw pork. Compound that with our new ways of eating and living, too. No one sits down at the table anymore, really, which in turn changes some of our food safety in ways we don't really think about.
That'd be pretty hrad to do, really. Viruses tend to spread based on the tissues they prefer to infect. You'd almost need something like COVID that has spike proteins that target the same cells that ebola does. A qucik search seems to suggest it's not that different from HIV in terms of targets: seems to aim for the immune system, but a different type of white blood cell. SARS-CoV-2 aims for ACE2 which is present all over the body (hence the many causes of death). Notably, the major organs including heart and lung tissue specially, as well as certain tissues tied to the central nervous system (hence the brain swelling, and some of the weird things that cause ARDs).

I see it all the time. The ideas don't necessarily change but the practice of those ideas have, because of covid and people being stuck inside. One of the most worrying I've noticed here is the (further) rise of ''e-learning'' where kids have lectures on their laptops/ phones/ tablets. Earlier, grade-demanding parents would just fuss over their kids and send them to a tutoring class in addition to school. Now they believe all the BS from the companies making these apps and force their kids to ''study'' even at home, because they believe everything they need is in this app on their phone. The industry has grown a lot since lockdown and is now the new normal in the filed of pushing kids to study. Ie the mindset hasn't changed but the methods have. While responsibility dodging is probably just as big an issue in the corporate world as outside it, I think that most of it is purely financially motivated. And there, I'd think that there is an analysis of probable consequences and then an attempt to pull enough strings so that you and your own company don't have to bear the financial burden. What I'm complaining about is people acting without thinking at all, or not thinking of the probable consequences.

In re. the stock market, I assume you're referring to companies getting bailed out and not facing the consequences of their actions? To me, it all comes down to the human condition. Covering the nose is something people reflexively do when in the presence of bad(ie potentially infection causing) odors and wearing a mask isn't too detached from that. I'm not sure whether its been agreed upon whether covid can spread by air or not but I am sure that its accepted that it can enter through the nose or mouth; in which case wearing a mask is obvious protection. But even if wearing a mask is too bothersome, why go outside and attend meetings and visit hospitals without wearing one? IMO that crosses the line of individual freedom and into harming others. eg you can like and listen to whatever music you want but you can't go out in public playing it on speaker and expect others to like it. Everyone is entitled to a vector free public area.

I don't think its nihilism as much as blind pursuit of pleasure / whatever is it you want. And its not exclusive to the west either. Thoughtless pursuit of pleasure knows no single country.

I didn't completely understand the last part. You were asked to work(at the packing facility) despite having a transmissible illness?
To me, it comes down to hope. As long as you can exist there is a hope, however small, that you can upgrade yourself to having a living. If you don't exist, there is no possibility at all.

Education retards population growth

for every pound of feed a fish produces a pound of flesh, whereas cows are horribly inefficient; of course why invest in aquaculture when you can just keep reaping the ocean.

Companies are already trying to recentralise with china manufacturing for that sweet sweet cheap labour ( i mean covids not even over and we've collectively already forgotten it's lesson about centralization).

With all the lockdowns industry ground largely to a halt meaning for a brief moment our emissions were on track lol.

Capitalism is unsustainable period and it's exponential need for growth cannot be sustained under a finite world product source or a rescinding population without collapsing.

Bitcoin is still being mined massively presenting an emissions problem, and wallstreet will keep exploiting the natives for cents on the dollar because you all have too much technological placation to eat the rich and redistribute that gold hoard to funding infrastructure and industrial change in line with our environmental needs.

We will see corporations seeding clouds regularly before we stop our desertification efforts.

Covids main problem is that it's not big enough of a problem in many respects; if it had a high kill rate people would take it more seriously, governments would have tighter lockdowns instead of trying to keep the slaves whipped, and lastly the virus itself would be likely to 'burn itself out' of existence.

Oh also in australia... yeah hotels with gig workers are good enough for a medical quarantine of an airborn virus am I right!?

Seems like that's what they meant.

Probably a boss or etc that doesn't care....I had one too once, long long ago.
(I was sick and in the bathroom every hour and the boss asked me to stay and keep working)

I've found that the longer one submits to "just exist", the easier it becomes to remain that way & the harder it becomes to try and improve things about themselves or the world around them.

On the subject of what our dietary constitution is in modern times, I'm honestly really interested in what the research into the discovery of that paleo pile of petrified excrement they recently found. They're saying that the composition of what our ancestors' diets were, and especially probiotic makeup and gut bacteria differences will be a form of "missing link" for what our current biological digestive functions could be missing during the course of our natural evolution from then.

It'll be interesting to see what it adds or subtracts to arguments for or against vegan/carnivorous/omnivorous diets and the benefits thereof or not.

So when you said meat you really meant "select cuts"? Offal is still meat.

With some deregulation, there is hope there, though. The public education system certainly was no better, and the corporations indirectly controlled them anyway. E-learning provides an avenue for more intependent teachers and much better competition. It certainly threatens the horrors that come from the teachers unions. Not unrelated. With corporations, due to the stock market, it becomes a moral obligation to shirk responsibility, and a legal one, oddly enough. Corporations have those extra warped incentives. Not just bailed out, but feeding the system in such a way that things that potentially hurt corporations never become laws in the first place. I've seen so much obvious bullshit from our government during this pandemic that it's obvious that, democrat or republican, what they both managed to agree on was protecting the corporations. I don't know about outside the US, but i imagine it was pretty much the same. The reason why the mask cannot adequately protect you, but protects others from you, is your eyes. Your moist eyes are like magnets for airborne particles, and your eyes drain into your sinuses (which is one of the lesser known areas where the infection can exist) and from your sinuses to your lungs. My girlfriend's covid case started in her sinuses, indicating the infection vector was most likely her eyes or nose. Because of this (and the concentration of the virus at her workplace, which is one of those things no one discusses or considers), she almost died, despite being less than 30. This is the thing i've had trouble explaining to others. For the most part, though, it does become a property rights thing, especially for facilities like stores, gyms, etc, and this is precisely where masking is most important. And, well, businesses have very conflicting incentives, so enforcing their own policies was a problem. Some areas were much better than others in this regard, though. To be honest, from what i've seen, the problem was more often the exceptions to masks, travel, etc that actually resulted in the most infections, not people failing to mask, although such behavior is indeed contemptable. Within nursing homes there were delayed policy implementations and the CDC's misinformation about COVID was not helpful at all. I'm sure the situations in prisons were similar. Simple things like a simple plastic barrier to separate quarantine zones from non quarantine zones was often delayed by what seemed to be intentionally. Staff who were known to be sick and contagious were obligated to return to work, based on CDC recommendations (i'm waiting to see the mainstream finally report that you're infectious for at least a month after recovery, but i won't hold my breath on that one). Oh, and the masking requirements for healthcare professionals always came down, and down, and down, even beyond what the CDC was suggesting, thanks to certain states wanting to protect their corporate investments.

And the worst thing is an obbious human motivation issue: a person with covid is more likely to find the mask uncomfortable than a person without covid. Ever wear a mask when you have the flu? I have. The idea tha people were going to obey this... And the wonderful idea of allowing facilities that were traditionally 24hr facilities to take advantage of this which only further concentraits people to specific hours to shop? Places like Walmart have been waiting for a while for an excuse to close at nights again without upsetting customers. That's why i said hedonistic existential nihilism. It's a specific brand of nihilism, or hedonism, but it's the inevitable pairing of the two that is the problem. The blind persuit of pleasure inevitably requires that one find some sort of justification, which in turn is often existential nihilism, because what you're doing can't be wrong if it has no effect in the big picture. I see it all the time, especially in dating where "what s/he doesn't know won't hurt him/her." And, of course, what happens if you have that mentality and for reasons you also realize that your pleasure seeking is vanity? Depression, and, hey, look, it's been on the rise for a long, long time, and suicides and such (and consequently mass murder, because there's usually a suicide component to them) have been on the rise. Yes, colloquially known as "stomache flu." For the most part it's harmless, but it will kill older people or people with inadequate hydration in 3rd world countries. It always haunted me that i did that, because my desire to keep my job and do as i'm told could've gotten some old jewish man or woman killed, maybe even some holocaust survivor (i worked at a kosher chicken factory, so i knew the people i was infecting were most likely jews). Of course, the SARS-CoV-2 things happens, and, well, how do you think that was handled? As i said, i know they ship at least to Israel (because when J-Post called a few times they asked me where i worked and told me they actually had that product there), and i heard Israel was trying really hard to contain it and figure out where their infections came from. Given it can survive on surfaces for a month, my guess is, given the chicken is usually packed wet, that it could survive even longer and made it's trip to Israel and anywhere else they ship to. I left that place back in 2012, but i heard some things out of the place when COVID hit. As expected, it took them a little after the first case to shut the plant down and, of course, there was a holiday comming up. Well, that much is logically true.

Capitalism's exponential need for growth need not be physical. Meanwhile, the other proposed systems notoriously produce more waste through inefficiencies. Capitalism provides the incentives to be most efficient. Corporate capitalism, on the other hand, actually stunts the technological growth necessary for this, due to research and development being a legal landmine in response to fiduciary responsibility. Given the efficiency of the devices mining bitcoin, compared to mining other resources, I think i'll doubt your argument. The problem isn't the rich, but the system that the rich are working through, which is provided gleefully by the useful idiots who think the worst of the rich, the politicians, will somehow not favor their own private corporate interests, and their legislative power further cements the cancer on capitalism that is the corporation, which closer resembles a government than a free market. What desertification efforts? Oddly, one of the things we do right is replant trees we cut, just to cite one simple example. Often times water comes out of sewage plants cleaner than it enters our homes. All the exceptions to all the lockdowns, including china's, are the most common ways it spreads even where there's no lockdowns: work, family, shopping, etc. The whole mentality of lockdowns only made things worse, because it caused compensatory behavior in people in these limited conditions, like people intentionally buying groceries with coins just to buy more human-human contact with a cashier. You see, some fatcat socialist is out there making money off the hotel's profits. You want to bet government officials weren't inveseting in hotels, nursing homes, etc, then benefitting from their own covid relief plans? If you don't, i have a bridge to sell you. It'll connect you with china and the rest of the world, and lower carbon emissions, 'cause we can use electric cars totally not powered by fossil fueled power plants to get all the goods back and forth.

Interesting. In German "Fleisch" (translates to meat) does not include offal. Also excludes sausage.

not all english speakers would consider offal meat (but it is).
so yeah, with a clearer understanding of what you meant now I can agree.
the world need more haggis and less steak in its diet.
also... SAUSAGE! ;D

Edit: also fleisch is literally flesh so rather specific compared to a general "meat" - had i cottoned onto that earlier we could have avoided this detour. now... back on the tour bus!

That's very much meat. Sounds like what i describe as "the 面白い" problem. That one's a bit worse as it's more common. 面白い translates to "interesting" in most dictionaries, but "amusing" is far, far more accurate. Thus, someone will say something like WW2, nuclear physics, or cancer is 面白い when learning Japanese, and i'm sure you can guess how that goes down.

If by that, i think you would be correct, and probably have a misunderstanding of the current diet by comparison. In the US, for example, steak is a bit too expensive to have regularly. Instead we'll often have fish, chicken, hamburg (which is isn't offal, but it's not exactly select cuts in the us), etc. Even in saying this, i am familiar that fish has been an important part of the human diet for a very, very long time. I don't know anyone who eats a steak more than once a month. Most of the time your "meats" are heavily processed. I imagine in europe, too. Have you ever done any research into that process? Let's just say our liver and kidneys do get quite a workout with the processed stuff. And let's not talk about sausage....

Criticizing hedonism and nihilism... while wasting time on videogames and useless discussion of politics on internet forum? I would ask if this was hypocritical... if there weren't an attempt to connect depression and mass murder. Because with this, it's just disgusting.

Since you totally didn't say that to get an answer, there's a separation between hedonism and recreation. As for politics, well, seems natural to criticize nihilism if you're into politics. What i don't get is the nihilists that get involved.