jefequeso: Well, I guess this is a chance for me to vent my Spec Ops: The Line hatred.

SPEC OPS: THE FREKKIN LINE

monkeydelarge: ...
True. People were worshiping it like the greatest game ever made when it came out. After I purchased and beat the game, I was a little bit disappointed. There wasn't enough weapons and enemies types and the game was very short. The game's story also annoys me.

apehater: the story was not only annoying, but also inconsistent and boring. gameplay and ai were cheap. it was enjoyble till you fall out of the zeppelin. after that happens, this game just turns into one big pain in the ass. the story turns to shit, the gameplay gets boring and the graphics get worse too. this game is worth 15 bucks not 50! i got gaught by the hype and pr then preordered this pice of crap :( and since then i preordered only legend of grimrock 2 here on gog. i'm very careful now with preordering.

edit: you don't need to use much of the equipment to beat that game. i used almost all the time the carbine and sniper rifle, didn't need the other weapons and vigors were completely useless shit!

monkeydelarge: ...
The game also tries too hard to be "artsy" and I hate that. You didn't need to use all the weapons and powers because there weren't enough types of enemies. They should of added more types of enemies.

apehater: i can see that bioshock infinite tries it from beginning till you fall out of the zeppelin. after that i don't even see it trying to be artsy.

apehater: i think bioshock infinite belongs in the category of most overrated video games

Fantasysci5: If we weren't talking about games, I'd throw Doctor Who out there.

monkeydelarge: snip

Fantasysci5: Agreed. I tried to get into it, but it just seems boring and all grey and brown, no color.

If we weren't talking about games, I'd throw Doctor Who out there.

huN73R: It's only popular among British people isn't it?

huN73R: I thought the pacing was really bad. I felt like there was little to no story movement at points, especially that ghost of step mother thing.

monkeydelarge: ...
I mean the cut scenes, how the story is presented to you was them trying too hard to be "artsy". The ending too. Instead of the cut scenes, explaining what is going on, they just show you, these scenes designed to provoke emotional responses that force you to spend time thinking about them even though it is impossible to figure out the story until the end of the game. So it felt like the game was trolling me. Every time a cut scene appeared on my screen, I was like "Not another one of these fucking annoying scenes with the main character getting drowned by some religious nuts." OR "Not another one of these scenes with the main character in his office, dealing with annoying people at his door." An ACTION game is supposed to deliver mostly ACTION, not some annoying artsy cryptic story. And the game is always trying to be dark just be dark. And it's just ridiculous because Bioshock Infinite is not a dark game. So the really dark scenes are very out of place and makes Elizabeth and Booker both look totally insane. I guess the problem is, Bioshock Infinite was trying hard to be this and that. The devs should of made sure, Bioshock Infinite is only one thing. A good action game.

apehater: oh ok, i thought you meant with artsy the design of the flying town columbia with its inhabitants.

monkeydelarge: ... Bioshock Infinite was trying hard to be this and that. The devs should of made sure, Bioshock Infinite is only one thing. A good action game.

monkeydelarge: The new Doctor Who or the old Doctor Who?
Yep. It's because instead of deciding to tell the story to players in an efficient logical way, they chose the artsy fartsy approach. And then suddenly the ghost of Elizabeth's step mother appears and you are like WTF?

apehater: i presume that they spend too much money from the budget on pr and had then not enough to develop the game. parts of game content in the trailers weren't in the game, one enemy type from the trailers wasn't in the game. and no fights with the song bird, you rarely see it.

huN73R: They could've at least put in a boss fight with songbird instead of that entire ghost thing.
I know a few friends irl who consider this better than Bioshock by a large margin, and half of them didn't even complete Bioshock. :(