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Posted May 12, 2016
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Matruchus: I just installed Wine 1.9.9. staging as it came. Didn't change anything. How do I get the 32 bit version.

Edit: Could it be connected with the fact that im running 64 bit Linux version?
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JudasIscariot: Do you have Wine with WoW64 support or are you using a 64-bit version of Wine? If it's the latter then try installing the 32-bit version of Wine and then make a prefix and the 64-bit not supported message should go away :)
I really have no idea. I just followed these instructions for staging: https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu

Edit: Reinstalled Winetricks and it says the Wineprefix is 64bit. So I guess I'm lost. I guess I will wait for a next update for Wine since that seemed to have fixed the mono issue last time.
Post edited May 12, 2016 by Matruchus
Posted May 12, 2016
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JudasIscariot: ...
Any word on Uprising 2 in WINE?
Posted May 12, 2016
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JudasIscariot: Do you have Wine with WoW64 support or are you using a 64-bit version of Wine? If it's the latter then try installing the 32-bit version of Wine and then make a prefix and the 64-bit not supported message should go away :)
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Matruchus: I really have no idea. I just followed these instructions for staging: https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu

Edit: Reinstalled Winetricks and it says the Wineprefix is 64bit. So I guess I'm lost. I guess I will wait for a next update for Wine since that seemed to have fixed the mono issue last time.
Ahhh....Ubuntu and Wine.

I would switch to Mint if I were you. I pulled my hair out with Ubuntu and Wine.

Heck, even Antergos handles Wine better but if you like Ubuntu derivatives then Mint gives you much better control over Wine and prefixes. Only Ubuntu has these weird issues with Wine...

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JudasIscariot: ...
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rampancy: Any word on Uprising 2 in WINE?
I am at work now on a Windows PC so I can't even try it atm :) Will see if it works at home though :)
Post edited May 12, 2016 by JudasIscariot
Posted May 12, 2016
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JudasIscariot: Ahhh....Ubuntu and Wine.

I would switch to Mint if I were you. I pulled my hair out with Ubuntu and Wine.

Heck, even Antergos handles Wine better but if you like Ubuntu derivatives then Mint gives you much better control over Wine and prefixes. Only Ubuntu has these weird issues with Wine...
Im running Linux Mint 17.3 64bit :)
Posted May 12, 2016
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JudasIscariot: Ahhh....Ubuntu and Wine.

I would switch to Mint if I were you. I pulled my hair out with Ubuntu and Wine.

Heck, even Antergos handles Wine better but if you like Ubuntu derivatives then Mint gives you much better control over Wine and prefixes. Only Ubuntu has these weird issues with Wine...
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Matruchus: Im running Linux Mint 17.3 64bit :)
Then I would recommend compiling from source if packages are not giving you the ability to make a proper 32-bit prefix. The source *should* compile a 32-bit version of Wine by default since in order to compile a 64-bit version of Wine you need to specify that with a flag :)

Trust me, if I can compile Wine from source on Mint you can do it too :)

Also, if I were in your place, I would NOT follow those Ubuntu instructions on Mint even though Mint is a Ubuntu derivative. Those instructions are very much Ubuntu and ONLY Ubuntu specific.

Just compile from source on that Mint 17.3 :)
Post edited May 12, 2016 by JudasIscariot
Posted May 12, 2016
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JudasIscariot: Do you have Wine with WoW64 support or are you using a 64-bit version of Wine? If it's the latter then try installing the 32-bit version of Wine and then make a prefix and the 64-bit not supported message should go away :)
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Matruchus: I really have no idea. I just followed these instructions for staging: https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu

Edit: Reinstalled Winetricks and it says the Wineprefix is 64bit. So I guess I'm lost. I guess I will wait for a next update for Wine since that seemed to have fixed the mono issue last time.
you can force wine to create a 32bit-only prefix

first delete your wineprefix, this only works when the prefix directory doesn't exist yet. then prepend WINEARCH=win32 to your wine command (only needed the first time, when the prefix gets created.)
so for example

WINEARCH=win32 wine winecfg

after that you can drop the WINEARCH variable and just run your stuff as usual
Posted May 12, 2016
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Matruchus: I really have no idea. I just followed these instructions for staging: https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu

Edit: Reinstalled Winetricks and it says the Wineprefix is 64bit. So I guess I'm lost. I guess I will wait for a next update for Wine since that seemed to have fixed the mono issue last time.
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immi101: you can force wine to create a 32bit-only prefix

first delete your wineprefix, this only works when the prefix directory doesn't exist yet. then prepend WINEARCH=win32 to your wine command (only needed the first time, when the prefix gets created.)
so for example

WINEARCH=win32 wine winecfg

after that you can drop the WINEARCH variable and just run your stuff as usual
Can you run WINEARCH=win32 on a 64-bit prefix with no WoW64? I was under the impression that 64-bit Wine will only be able to create 64-bit prefixes and the same for a 32-bit version...
Posted May 12, 2016
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JudasIscariot: Can you run WINEARCH=win32 on a 64-bit prefix with no WoW64? I was under the impression that 64-bit Wine will only be able to create 64-bit prefixes and the same for a 32-bit version...
The link that Matruchus gave talks about enabling 32bit architecture first, so I just assumed it is a WoW64 build (ie. it can execute 32bit and 64bit programmes). If it was a 64bit wine there would be no need for 32bit dependencies, no?

If you have just a 64bit wine, then of course you can't create a 32bit prefix :)

but is there any distro which ships a 64bit only wine? I always thought they all went with the combined package (32+64bit support). And the tip of using the WINEARCH variable pops up quite often at the AppDB.
Posted May 12, 2016
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JudasIscariot: Can you run WINEARCH=win32 on a 64-bit prefix with no WoW64? I was under the impression that 64-bit Wine will only be able to create 64-bit prefixes and the same for a 32-bit version...
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immi101: The link that Matruchus gave talks about enabling 32bit architecture first, so I just assumed it is a WoW64 build (ie. it can execute 32bit and 64bit programmes). If it was a 64bit wine there would be no need for 32bit dependencies, no?

If you have just a 64bit wine, then of course you can't create a 32bit prefix :)

but is there any distro which ships a 64bit only wine? I always thought they all went with the combined package (32+64bit support). And the tip of using the WINEARCH variable pops up quite often at the AppDB.
Yeah I asked because Matruchus kept getting errors related to a winetrick not support 64-bits but I agree with all your points :)
Posted May 12, 2016
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immi101: is there any distro which ships a 64bit only wine?
On Debian it is splitted between 64-bit and 32-bit packages. You can install one or the other, but of course the smart way is to install both.
Posted May 12, 2016
The way the rumours keep flying around some of the threads, I'm almost tempted to ask how well Oblivion runs in Wine... :-P
Posted May 12, 2016
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blakstar: The way the rumours keep flying around some of the threads, I'm almost tempted to ask how well Oblivion runs in Wine... :-P
Runs great here using Wine Staging 1.9.9, no overrides required IIRC
Posted May 12, 2016
I've recently played a couple of games with Wine so I thought I might just report my experience in this post. :)


Game: Lumino City (GOG-4 version)
Installer MD5: e73a4aebe4ea2c2ecb8d9f3fd97c967e setup_lumino_city_2.1.0.4.exe
WineHQ AppDB link: N/A

Distro: Arch Linux 64 bits
Kernel version: 4.5.1-1
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650
Graphics driver & version: Proprietary, v364.19
Wine version tested: regular Wine v1.9.9

Installation: Installs OK with GOG's installer (it spews a couple of error messages at the end of the process, but they didn't seem to affect the installation in any discernible way)
How well does it run: Perfect
Details: It crashed once during my playthrough, but couldn't further reproduce the issue.

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Game: Nightmares from the Deep: The Cursed Heart (from a Groupees bundle)
WineHQ AppDB link: N/A

Distro: Arch Linux 64 bits
Kernel version: 4.5.1-1
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650
Graphics driver & version: Proprietary, v364.19
Wine version tested: regular Wine v1.9.9

Installation: No installation needed, just extract the contents of a zipfile and play
How well does it run: Perfect, with no glitches or other problems to report.
Posted May 12, 2016
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blakstar: The way the rumours keep flying around some of the threads, I'm almost tempted to ask how well Oblivion runs in Wine... :-P
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adamhm: Runs great here using Wine Staging 1.9.9, no overrides required IIRC
That's nice to hear, if the rumours actually pan out that is! :-)
Posted May 12, 2016
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adamhm: Runs great here using Wine Staging 1.9.9, no overrides required IIRC
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blakstar: That's nice to hear, if the rumours actually pan out that is! :-)
Yeah, I'm hoping they do. I would really like to see Skyrim, Fallout 3 & New Vegas released here too, and Fallout 4 (although the chances of that being released here any time soon seem pretty much nonexistant).

Fallout 3 runs great in Wine too, no overrides required for that either but there are some minor problems with it (can't use AA as some rendering issues occur, transparency multisampling setting does not work, some objects don't fade in as you approach but pop in suddenly). Also must use Wine Staging as music won't play properly on the pip-boy radio with regular Wine or CrossOver.

Hopefully we'll see some more Bethesda releases here soon :)
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