LeonardoCornejo: You are making rather rude assumptions about me with your statement. First, death penalty is not legal in mexico because the laws are rigged to benefit high profile criminals, second, any child capable of displaying inhuman viciousness is beyond salvation, third, getting away with it is wrong, fourth, my statement was about the lack of freedom minors have and the lack of agency they are given. And finally, you put masculinity as if it was something bad.
Honestly I find it hard not to bervally abuse someone as dense and rude, not to mention apparent misandryst, as you.
TStael: Rude, dense and misandryst?
You really have not ever come across a fellow fora member a bit different in their values as you, before?
Really?
You were the one whom thought awry of "she." I think "she" is neutral/fine in these fora. You were the one whom stated "electrocuting," Opposing death penalty is pretty normal in Europe.
So please - do abuse someone as dense and rude as me. I still will not think Mexican children should be executed, or are nothing but children.
No. It is not a general rule. I think you don't understand the concept of individual cases and case by case basis. Each case individually. Death penalty is a drastic measure to the most serious actions. It is a way to guarantee with 100% certainty there will be no repeats. Trust me, many Nazi officers were executed for their actions because the chances of them starting the same shit again were high.
Now, it is not that your values are different, many around here have different values to mine, for example many consider the minimal consenting age in Mexico and Japan too low, I find it just fine. We don't have the same set of values. But your case is special because you display a disdain for masculinity. That is a set of values I can't understand or tolerate. Masculinity is part of what I am from birth and saying it is wrong is saying I am inherently wrong.
The correct neutral is neither he nor she, the correct neutral is it, or if you want to sound a bit confusing, they, I think we have reached an agreement on that. And if I don't like being called a she is because, first, that is a false statement about me, I don't like false statements, second, I use my true name, so nobody could confuse me for a female, there are no women named Leonardo at all, and third, I am not amused with the "preferred pronoun" thing. If you are physically male, you ara a man to me, and I will address you as such, if your screen name is male and I can't see your body I will assume you are male. That is why I said the she was uncalled for, because it was not necessary.
If you think you can go and provoke me you will find yourself in a serious pickle because I am not the kind of man who goes for the low hanging fruit and uses petty insults and threats. I am far worse than that because I refute the arguments I can and use those refuted arguments to prove you are in fact either foolish, insane, a liar, or someone who has been lied to.
And sorry if I think Carlos Salinas should have been killed many times, but after seeing how he fucked, and still fucks my country through proxies, I want him dead. And knowing he viciously murdered a woman and got away with it is sickening, even if he was a child. There is a point where boys will be boys is no longer a valid argument and they should be tried as adults due to the severity of their crimes. Do you think a couple of kids who tried to rape a classmate because they were "Playing rape" or kids who murdered a younger child imitating what gangs do are worth saving? I think they have gone too far and should be tried as adults. And so do I think sometimes minors are capable of managing themselves better than adults and there should be more emancipation laws and in general more freedom, agency, and responsibility for minors based on case by case handling of situations instead of umbrella collectivist rules. We are fucking individuals, we can't be ruled by collectivist laws. Results should be based on our individual needs, our merits, and our vices. You won't judge the same someone who murdered a rapist to stop it's crimes than someone who murdered a child for a fucked up Palo ritual. You won't judge the same way a minor who has shown enough maturity to know what is going on and the weight of his actions or his needs than a minor who is not even able to understand why the sun sets, even if they have the same age.