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tinyE: Just came in here because I'm bored; is someone actually quoting scripture, and if so....WHY!?
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LeonardoCornejo: I mentioned the fall of native Americans and in general the conquest of the continent and tied it partly to the disease carried by the Europeans and how open borders could lead to such infections. Somehow this interested a notably spiritual person.

Well. You know my opinion on superstition. I am not precisely into it.

Now again. since that user has not really been violent, I think we should handle the case with patience, and politely ask the user to chill.
why? I think I am proving my point well, just you aren't getting it YET, but in the end you will.

why ask me to settle?
as you pointed out, i have said nothing violent at all, extremists? meaning of real faith and not the faith of a church?
a faith in understanding the words as they really are, and not as they are said to be..
meaning I read them, for myself, from the original texts as much as possible.

Do you think Confuscious was foolish when he said "Man is like fire to lies, and liek ice to the truth"?
I am telling you the same thing.. proving it to you firsthand.

hate me if that's what you need, seems to be, like I said earlier, i do not care.

I mean why would I really?
Do you know me?
If you do not.. can you "Judge" me?

that's all you kids know, is judging others, hatred, the things that cause a society to collapse, that's what you know, that's what your parents have allowed you to be taught, cause they were too.

the end of the game is coming, and I am giving you a glimmer of how it will end..
at it's own hands.

70th week of weeks is a Jubilee, that means:
A) the land MUST be returned to the original owner
B) the remission of debts, all debts wrote off
C) No work for 1 year solid, no vending, no trade..
D) Food MUST be aquired from the outdoors from nature, fruit trees and gardens are good, no food may be purchased (see C above).

can you see any of that happening?
if not, remember Sodom and Gomorrah ?

that sign will be fulfilled that day, and the next time it will match will be 14,000 years from now, so i hope your ready, don't think you are, cause you all are lost in your false pride and vanity, and that is as far from god as one could hope to be.

and you feel I disrespect you.. funny.. you disrespect you, should I respect that?
god is no respecter of persons, you should not be either.

how many times has someone shown you the exact pattern described in scripture to let you know the end is near from the bible itself? you have never seen such.. not in truth.

We're not far from WW3, when it happens, where will your GOG account be then?
Will you care?

wake up.

isn't this a place you come to express yourself?
are you met with the hostility i am?
hypocritical group here.
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capricorn1971ad: isn't this a place you come to express yourself?
are you met with the hostility i am?
hypocritical group here.
Actually this thread is really about #gamergate & the issues surrounding it, (corrupt Journalism, SocJus & anti-game/r pop culture critics to name a few) religion IMHO isn't such an issue this time and as such doesn't really fit.
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capricorn1971ad: isn't this a place you come to express yourself?
are you met with the hostility i am?
hypocritical group here.
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Rusty_Gunn: Actually this thread is really about #gamergate & the issues surrounding it, (corrupt Journalism, SocJus & anti-game/r pop culture critics to name a few) religion IMHO isn't such an issue this time and as such doesn't really fit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9RVS8cjNN0
I don't reallly follow GG stuff but I'm surprised you still haven't talked about the permanent suspension of Milo's Twitter account (only became aware of it due to the trending #FreeMilo)
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catpower1980: I don't reallly follow GG stuff but I'm surprised you still haven't talked about the permanent suspension of Milo's Twitter account (only became aware of it due to the trending #FreeMilo)
I'm starting to distrust these high profile drama stories. They all seem like a work now. Just like that Kanye/Taylor Swift nonsense. It's all a goddamn work. Everyone's in on it, because everyone wants a piece of the fecking pie. Twitter gets headlines and more brand awareness. Milo gets headlines and.. well, more brand awareness. Everyone's a liar, everyone's a thief, everyone's a whore. And like they say, 'everyone's got a price.'

I'll refrain from launching into a rant about Illuminati bankers and reptilians manipulating the great energy stream we call reality. We get enough of that talk around here already. I'll just have to settle for calling everyone an asshole.
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Emob78: I'm starting to distrust these high profile drama stories. They all seem like a work now. Just like that Kanye/Taylor Swift nonsense. It's all a goddamn work. Everyone's in on it, because everyone wants a piece of the fecking pie. Twitter gets headlines and more brand awareness. Milo gets headlines and.. well, more brand awareness. Everyone's a liar, everyone's a thief, everyone's a whore. And like they say, 'everyone's got a price.'
Normally, Milo can open a new account so it's not the end of the world (I don't really like him) but I would love if Twitter had at least more transparency about its guidelines/moderations (even leading to some kind of "appeal" process) as it's maybe too discretionary ATM and leave to be desired (the "hate speeches" aren't one-sided as seen in the aftermaths of the Nice attack).
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catpower1980: I don't reallly follow GG stuff but I'm surprised you still haven't talked about the permanent suspension of Milo's Twitter account (only became aware of it due to the trending #FreeMilo)
Milo was an ''ally'' of convenience and and most of his work today is about offending SJWs outside of gaming so he really isn't that important. And ofc, discussing principle is more important than discussing people and if anything involves Milo, it will soon be the case that everything or a large portion of it involves him as well. He spreads really easily, see?

And there is little to discuss. Twatter allows genuine ''hatespeech'' on their service but banned Milo by bending the definition, their TOS and using guilt by association. Hence, twatter is shit.
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Shadowstalker16: Milo was an ''ally'' of convenience and and most of his work today is about offending SJWs
isn't that what gamergate does these days anyways? We haven't had a happening since gawker got smashed by the hulkster.

I wouldnt really call him an "ally of convenience" like him or not, he did his part in showing the true colours of gaming "journalism". He is a total attention whore though.
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Shadowstalker16: Milo was an ''ally'' of convenience and and most of his work today is about offending SJWs
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WBGhiro: isn't that what gamergate does these days anyways? We haven't had a happening since gawker got smashed by the hulkster.

I wouldnt really call him an "ally of convenience" like him or not, he did his part in showing the true colours of gaming "journalism". He is a total attention whore though.
I think there were also some ops / email campaigns about making Japanese devs and translators aware that the the views of journofluids needn't be aligned in any way with most of the consumers of their games. But other than that, yeah, its been slow. IMO GG needed to do a bit more about the CSGO gambling scandals that have been happening since that is new media being as corrupt or much more corrupt than new media and given measures have already been taken by Valve, Twitch, etc, it wouldn't hurt to support it with an email campaign or something, if not just for the exposure.

Yeah Milo did break gamejournopros. That was big and important, especially for the initial jumpstart, so a tip of the fedora to him. I give him credit for that, but his other work journalistically consisted of articles communicating the GG drama and news quite factually on his Right Wing MSM site.
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catpower1980: I don't reallly follow GG stuff but I'm surprised you still haven't talked about the permanent suspension of Milo's Twitter account (only became aware of it due to the trending #FreeMilo)
Well there is a "factual feminist" that is suppose to be on men side betrayed men in the end.

She had criticized extremist feminist regarding college rape and what happen to innocent until proven guilty.

However she did not practice what she preach either by signing a petition with other feminist to get a man fired.

http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/03/30/16-feminists-who-have-taken-over-conservative-media/

When confronted with the video of what actually happen and why she put her signature on what warrant the man fired she just double down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AFd1QbeJ2w&feature=youtu.be
Not a fake, BTW.
Yes, and? Recognize yourself in there?
I don't get it. Watered down, all of us are either quiet planners or hot headed people of action. Both are characteristics that are widely distributed. There are people who take both to the extreme in EVERYTHING. Absolutely everything.
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capricorn1971ad: Samael is headed this way, hope you are ready.. but you aren't spiritual, how will you defend yourself against him?
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WBGhiro: I got a wrench, what's Samael gonna do against that? He's fucking blind

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capricorn1971ad: I am but the smoke of a pot.
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WBGhiro: There's a lot of smoke and a lot of pot that goes in the cration of your posts, that I can't deny
what's a cration? you lost me..
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capricorn1971ad: no, but you must understand, man is not here to honor man, but we do have an obligation to truth, do we not?
Samael is headed this way, hope you are ready.. but you aren't spiritual, how will you defend yourself against him?

you know, IF gnostic was actually a gnostic he would know that, he uses the term not even knowing what it is, not even caring.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael

In the Apocryphon of John, found in the Nag Hammadi library, Samael is the third name of the demiurge, whose other names are Yaldabaoth and Saklas. In this context, Samael means "the blind god", the theme of blindness running throughout gnostic works. His appearance is that of a lion-faced serpent. In On the Origin of the World in the Nag Hammadi library texts, he is also referred to as Ariael, the Archangel of Principalities.

If you people don't understand what I am telling you then research it.
Isn't "out of left field" at all.. It's actually straight up the center.

like Diogenes explaining that the easiest way to set mankinds path aright was as simple as changing the finger we point with, which then he wen't about with his middle finger pointing at everything and everyone.

but you see, we all know it is impolite to point, and when you point with the middle finger, there is no mistaking the target, so therefor this is considered "taboo".

So then later, when asked what the difference was between a wiseman and a fool, he simply said "A Finger".

think of me what you will, it is of no real matter, i am but an Iota, a dog, you don't believe i exist anyways, lost in the delusion that you do.

I am but the smoke of a pot.
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Gnostic: Unfortunately, no one have a monopoly over the definition of Gnostic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism#cite_ref-101

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Origin of the term

The term "Gnosticism" does not appear in ancient sources,[100] and was first coined in the 17th Century by Henry More in a commentary on the seven letters of the Book of Revelation, where More used the term "Gnosticisme" to describe the heresy in Thyatira.[101] The term derives from the use of the Greek adjective gnostikos ("learned", "intellectual", Greek γνωστικός) by St. Irenaeus (c. 185 AD) to describe the school of Valentinus as he legomene gnostike haeresis "the heresy called Learned (gnostic)"

This occurs in the context of Irenaeus' work On the Detection and Overthrow of the So-Called Gnosis, (Greek: elenchos kai anatrope tes pseudonymou gnoseos, ἔλεγχος καὶ ἀνατροπὴ τῆς ψευδωνύμου γνώσεως) where the term "knowledge falsely so-called" (pseudonymos gnosis) covers various groups, not just Valentinus, and is a quotation of the apostle Paul's warning against "knowledge falsely so-called" in 1 Timothy 6:20.[103]

The usual meaning of gnostikos in Classical Greek texts is "learned" or "intellectual", such as used in the comparison of "practical" (praktikos) and "intellectual" (gnostikos) in Plato's dialogue between Young Socrates and the Foreigner in his The Statesman (258e).[104] Plato's use of "learned" is fairly typical of Classical texts
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Considering religious groups prosecute the people who have a different opinion regarding earth is not flat and the sun does not revolves around the earth, the Learned are heretic indeed.
sure, no one does, BUT..
Gnostic is NOT new.. it has been around a long long time, Gnosticism is faith in Gnosis (Knowledge), which goes hand in hand with scripture.

the other side of the coin is called Agnostic, and that would be you.

definitions don't mean hat we want them to mean, rather they mean what they mean.

Anti-Gnostic, Agnostic, you deny knowledge, cause you lack it, that's not gnostic, no real Gnostic would ever speak against Wisdom, it would be the largest of sin in his eyes, that's not you.

your "Gnosticism" is in your head only, is not of "reality".

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Gnosticism (from Ancient Greek: γνωστικός gnostikos, "having knowledge", from γνῶσις gnōsis, knowledge) is a modern term categorizing a collection of ancient religions whose adherents shunned the material world – which they viewed as created by the demiurge – and embraced the spiritual world.[1] Gnostic ideas influenced many ancient religions[2] that teach that gnosis (variously interpreted as knowledge, enlightenment, salvation, emancipation or 'oneness with God') may be reached by practicing philanthropy to the point of personal poverty, sexual abstinence (as far as possible for hearers, entirely for initiates) and diligently searching for wisdom by helping others.[3][page needed] However, practices varied among those who were Gnostic.

notice the references to religion.. gnostic is of faith.
should read the wikipedia page on it, Gnosticism was around in AncientGgreece, of course, as GNOSTIC is a Greek word, meaning "Knowledge".
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capricorn1971ad: Snip for length
So I assume you agree that people decide to expand the word meaning to include the meaning of religious knowledge too.

And yes, Gnosticism is mostly used in religious scripture now, and that include religion other then Christianity too.

And how you know I am Agnostic?

My belief align more to Buddhist teaching (the philosophy) that everyone can be a GOD (Buddha), and no one can save you but yourself. Great teachers like Buddha, Confucius, Jesus only show the way.

And when interpreting their teaching, one must go through the process of logical thinking. because the teachings are written after Siddhattha Gotama, Confucius, Jesus death and edited by their disciples with their own favor of thinking and translated into many language will lost many of its meaning.

And Siddhattha Gotama, Confucius, Jesus is not free from mistake too.
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