That is against the principle of equality. If everyone was equal, why are some people entitled to protection from hurt feelings and why are we supposing an entire class of people are easily hurt based on a characteristic they might share? Also, still waiting for your answer on whether we determine our sex.

the "tyranny of the minority" (that you're advocating) is IMHO one of those roads to hell paved with good intentions

How is it tyranny? All I'm advocated is that this particular minority group has historically (and currently) been assaulted and even murdered just for being in that minority group, and therefore there needs to be some protection to minimize the number of cases.

We do determine our own gender identities.

Yes; but that is separate from sex. You still can't expect something that is determined with biological / physical characteristics to be decided by anything else right? Like; isn't sex something we're born with and not what we are based on our choice?

Why do you think animal rights activism is so much on the rise these days?
Human rights are not enough and speciecism is doing a lot more harm than special snowflakes with gender dysphoria ever experienced. The categorical imperative shouldn't only be applied to humans imho.

One day the absurdity of the almost universal human belief in the slavery of other animals will be palpable. We shall then have discovered our souls and become worthier of sharing this planet with them.
― Martin Luther King Jr.

Human's think their special and those with gender dysphoria think they are even more special and need more protection than anyone else causing inequality even amongst their own species. Everyone is exposed to violence for several reasons, that's what your human rights and legal systems are for and privileges for certain groups are a bad idea altogether and unconstitutional in most western countries for a reason.

What about those with gender dysphoria who aren't special snowflakes?

Edit: As of this post, this topic is showing as having 6666 replies. Guess that means something evil?

Edit 2: I'm not a snowflake; I'm a Mandelbrot Set. Just look at my avatar!

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Ok lets go for the easy one first.
Names always begin with a capital.
http://www.wiltshire.ac.uk/learning/study_skills/basic_skills/capital_letters.asp

However if you still want it that way, I can respect your wish and address your name with small letters.


For the hard one.
So now it is convenient to follow scientific evidence?
I remember earlier you use the argument that there is scientific evidence that in some case a male have some female characteristic and a female have some male characteristic. Hence male and female is interchangeable based on what they feel.

I have news for you, animals has some human characteristic and human have some animal characteristic.


humans share 98.8 percent of their DNA with bonobos and chimpanzees.
Humans and pig share 98 percent of human DNA
Humans and mice share nearly 90 percent of human DNA
Humans and cats share 90 percent of their DNA
Humans and dogs share 84 percent of their DNA
Humans and cow share 80 percent of their DNA
Humans and Zebra fish share 71% of their DNA
Humans and chicken share 65 percent of their DNA.
Human and fruit fly share 60 percent of their DNA
Humans and banana share 50 percent of their DNA
Human and yeast share 26 percent of their DNA
Human and weed share 18 percent if their DNA

Hence by your argument human and animal and even insects and plants are interchangeable.

As for otherkin not deserving human rights, well, don't be a bigot and shitlord you always accuse others of.
Animals and human are interchangeable hence deserved human right too.
Besides, how cruel and heartless you are to deny otherkin human rights too, their DNA is generally 100% human so should have human rights too.
How bigoted and anti progress a person can be to deny otherkin who have 100% human DNA human rights.

I can't believe the level of sheer idiocy and nonsense dtgreene is spewing now! I mean, seriously, the only good thing of having it in tis thread is that its horrible stupidity might spread less to other threads. And I can't avoid personal attacks because there is no way to pretend such statements as trating otherkin as less than human in stead of dellusional and removing crucial information from birth certificates are not stupid.

Seriously, it is like when transgenders get angry because physicians refuse to acknowledge their delluded gender identity because doing so would mean the patient would get an unfit medical treatment and could be considered malpractice.

I think this is a reason the term "regressive" is gaining popularity over "progressive"

I noticed that as well. Seems more apt.

Yep I think although animal should have certain rights but not totally human rights as it will be hard for the animal. For example we would have to punish animals for raping other animals without consent and stuff like that.

Otherkin is just mentally delusional human whom deserve basic human rights, but cannot be called normal and everyone should behave like otherkin.

I think transgender people does not mix very well with otherkin because they could be a mirror and they don't like what they see.

lol i read your title as i like bigots

Okay, I have read some of the last pages of this topic and I can't help but feel shame for some people's behaviour with respect to other people's opinion on some of the subjects you are being discussed. Why are so many people voting negative to dtgreene? Did he insult you? Did he offend you? How can people be so disrespectful to different point of views? Some are even insulting him calling him idiot and stupid! I find GOG's community to be very nice overall except in this thread, because here many people show a lot of hate and lack of respect. Why can't everyone debate about gender issues in gaming and real life without turning it into a war? Everyone who behaves this way is no better than those "enemies" they are trying to fight (and this is true both to men and women who are sexist to the opposite gender). Come on, be all more mature and respect different oppinions on whatever subject is discussed.

About this transgender issue, I've known some transgender people and read about it. Gender is both biologically determined and socially constructed. The thing that really determines one's self-perception about his/her gender identity its his/her brain. There are biological differences between male and female brains that determine how they view themselves. The problem is that sometimes a person can be born with a chromoseme and body of one sex but a brain with a neural structure of the other one. That's why when he/she begins to grow up, he/she will identify as belonging to the opposite sex. It's not just a mere whim, it's something they feel because that's what their brain is telling them. And if they are not allowed to change their situation it will bring them a lot of pain and suffering. The gender self-identification begins just with 4-5 years old in many cases, and is something that in most cases they feel strongly assured and unable to change for the rest of their lives. Once it's clear they have gender dysphoria, the sooner they begin the hormone therapy the better for them, because waiting will make them suffer a lot ans will make the sex change more difficult, specially if they reach their teens without any hormonation. A good psychologist can determine if a person is really suffering gender dysphoria (of course, it's always good to visit one or two more to see if they confirm the diagnosis).

Also, if there is a minority suffering discrimination, like what happens to many transgender people, how can some of you not see the need to pprotect them from the abuse of the majority? Do you really think that just because some rules or laws are created to protect them the society will automaticaly become a "tyranny of the minority"? The majority already has power over the minorities. Trying to protect them do not necesarily mean to give them more power than the majority. Just the means to protect them from abuse.