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Klumpen0815: I didn't really comprehend how Vaina tried to twist my applause for this woman against me, but yes, I applaud all women that do anything to stand up against real (as in not made up) patriarchy, because it's the right thing to do and they risk their lives (which they don't here if they're not part of a muslim family).
How dare you not equating fake women fighting for a fake cause with real women fighting for a real cause.

Never mind that so called women wanted to be treated like a man except the time it is inconvenient, and crusade a cause based on falsehood. All the good women are their shield so no women can be evil.
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TStael: U post those "balancing" sources at will, lad/lass, eh! :-p

But you never knew and assessed them, did ya?

And let it be known that I find the press card an badge honour. In case you are unaware how many journalist are killed and tortured for doing their job where it is most needed - just google reporters sans frontiers.

Or here:

http://en.rsf.org/

What say you?
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LeonardoCornejo: Yeah. Journalists are tortured and killed when they expose war crimes, authoritarian regimes, conspiracies that turn out to be true, criminal syndicates, etc. However you don't see progressives or progressive media talking about those journalists.

If you want to protect journalists who risk their lives to denounce the criminal and inhuman acts of governments and organizations I am with you on that.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/05/journalist-ruqia-hassan-killed-isis-raqqa-syria

Plus apparently ISIS used her media profile to lure sympathisers for a killing.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/jan/13/two-iraqi-tv-journalists-shot-dead-the-first-of-2016

The Guardian would plausibly be viewed as quite progressive by you. Not by me, but I still agree with them that the press card is still, and especially historically, a true badge of honour , held by those whom challenge the powers that be and make the world more transparent.

*,,, the first of 2016."

How compelling but pessimistically true are those four last words of this title?

You claim to be there. supporting journalists , when you care little for source criticality.
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LeonardoCornejo: Yeah. Journalists are tortured and killed when they expose war crimes, authoritarian regimes, conspiracies that turn out to be true, criminal syndicates, etc. However you don't see progressives or progressive media talking about those journalists.

If you want to protect journalists who risk their lives to denounce the criminal and inhuman acts of governments and organizations I am with you on that.
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TStael: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/05/journalist-ruqia-hassan-killed-isis-raqqa-syria

Plus apparently ISIS used her media profile to lure sympathisers for a killing.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/jan/13/two-iraqi-tv-journalists-shot-dead-the-first-of-2016

The Guardian would plausibly be viewed as quite progressive by you. Not by me, but I still agree with them that the press card is still, and especially historically, a true badge of honour , held by those whom challenge the powers that be and make the world more transparent.

*,,, the first of 2016."

How compelling but pessimistically true are those four last words of this title?

You claim to be there. supporting journalists , when you care little for source criticality.
It would be great if journalists of big newspapers would put up the truths a bit earlier. Before they get killed and people argue about progressive and not progressive.
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LeonardoCornejo: Yeah. Journalists are tortured and killed when they expose war crimes, authoritarian regimes, conspiracies that turn out to be true, criminal syndicates, etc. However you don't see progressives or progressive media talking about those journalists.

If you want to protect journalists who risk their lives to denounce the criminal and inhuman acts of governments and organizations I am with you on that.
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TStael: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/05/journalist-ruqia-hassan-killed-isis-raqqa-syria

Plus apparently ISIS used her media profile to lure sympathisers for a killing.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/jan/13/two-iraqi-tv-journalists-shot-dead-the-first-of-2016

The Guardian would plausibly be viewed as quite progressive by you. Not by me, but I still agree with them that the press card is still, and especially historically, a true badge of honour , held by those whom challenge the powers that be and make the world more transparent.

*,,, the first of 2016."

How compelling but pessimistically true are those four last words of this title?

You claim to be there. supporting journalists , when you care little for source criticality.
Am I objecting your sources or stating protest regarding the journalists killed by ISIS is not valid? Just because I am not going full activist because of that does not mean I don't care. We certainly must work to fix that.
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LeonardoCornejo: Yeah. Journalists are tortured and killed when they expose war crimes, authoritarian regimes, conspiracies that turn out to be true, criminal syndicates, etc. However you don't see progressives or progressive media talking about those journalists.

If you want to protect journalists who risk their lives to denounce the criminal and inhuman acts of governments and organizations I am with you on that.
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TStael: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/05/journalist-ruqia-hassan-killed-isis-raqqa-syria

Plus apparently ISIS used her media profile to lure sympathisers for a killing.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/jan/13/two-iraqi-tv-journalists-shot-dead-the-first-of-2016

The Guardian would plausibly be viewed as quite progressive by you. Not by me, but I still agree with them that the press card is still, and especially historically, a true badge of honour , held by those whom challenge the powers that be and make the world more transparent.

*,,, the first of 2016."

How compelling but pessimistically true are those four last words of this title?

You claim to be there. supporting journalists , when you care little for source criticality.
Everyone have a subject that they care about more than others.

What is wrong if someone care for some other subject more than the subject you care about?
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TStael: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/05/journalist-ruqia-hassan-killed-isis-raqqa-syria

Plus apparently ISIS used her media profile to lure sympathisers for a killing.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/jan/13/two-iraqi-tv-journalists-shot-dead-the-first-of-2016

The Guardian would plausibly be viewed as quite progressive by you. Not by me, but I still agree with them that the press card is still, and especially historically, a true badge of honour , held by those whom challenge the powers that be and make the world more transparent.

*,,, the first of 2016."

How compelling but pessimistically true are those four last words of this title?

You claim to be there. supporting journalists , when you care little for source criticality.
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Gnostic: Everyone have a subject that they care about more than others.

What is wrong if someone care for some other subs nuject more than the subject you care about?
Nothing - except when pretending to be source critical, while journalists are massacred, and then not doing a thing for them, except maybe a discrediting sort of a pitch.

I have said I admire the profession, because I know a number of journalists shall be killed carrying out their work, and quite on the principle. No favour or fault.
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Gnostic: Everyone have a subject that they care about more than others.

What is wrong if someone care for some other subs nuject more than the subject you care about?
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TStael: Nothing - except when pretending to be source critical, while journalists are massacred, and then not doing a thing for them, except maybe a discrediting sort of a pitch.

I have said I admire the profession, because I know a number of journalists shall be killed carrying out their work, and quite on the principle. No favour or fault.
You know. That is a non issue here. I also have a deep respect for journalists who denounce wrongdoings. Actually I wanted to become a journalist, but I decided not to because there is a lot of corruption in the business and those who don't fall in line find their carreers ruined, get fired, get killed, are sent to jail and or slandered even by the media itself.

If you really care so deeply about journalism maybe you should support #GamerGate and help us bring an end to censorship and political correctness. Because those two things GG fights agaist are the same two things that ruin the lives and carrers of many respectable journalists.

By the way, did you hear that Milo got discreditted by Twitter leading to a strong reaction from Milo's fans and sparking another discussion about free speech?

I guess no one should mess with such a proud faggot as Milo. If you have anythig against him the best thing to do is start a debate in stead of censoring, because otherwise the guy will fight back.
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TStael: You claim to be there. supporting journalists , when you care little for source criticality.
How do we do this iyo? If by source criticality you mean a question of the power of the source to do harm to journos, then you are overestimating because contrary to popular belief, GGers aren't more powerful than ISIS when it comes to killing power.
I know Veeh is not exactly the most likable guy for some people. But he is quite based. Actually as based as it gets.


https://youtu.be/YFh5vztN_P0
Newsflash. Censorship and prohibition backfired!

Mein Kampf was not available in Germany until recently. As soon as it happened. Sold out!

https://youtu.be/AR4bwHNScSg
It seems the forum breaks with large posts.
Here's the link to the article I was quoting. It's about the Eron vs Chelsea court case.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/40us3u/yo_legal_update/
Post edited January 17, 2016 by Spectre
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LeonardoCornejo: Newsflash. Censorship and prohibition backfired!

Mein Kampf was not available in Germany until recently. As soon as it happened. Sold out!

https://youtu.be/AR4bwHNScSg
As per usual with censorship, it's much ado about nothing. I've read it. Boring schlock. Uncle Adolf spends the entire book trying to make the same few argument points over and over again. It's almost as if he wrote the book for the purpose of simplifying his own debate points down to the lowest common denominator.

But the idea of banning nazi books or symbols is just too much. The Germans burned books, now they ban books that were written by the guys who motivated them to burn books. It's a political dog chasing its own tail in futility. And yet again, it's a simple problem that has an even simpler solution - FREEDOM.
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Spectre: It seems the forum breaks with large posts.
Here's the link to the article I was quoting. It's about the Eron vs Chelsea court case.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/40us3u/yo_legal_update/
I am not a big fan of Eron. But two things come to my mind. First, this is a small fight in a big war for free speech and I hpe he wins because we need as many victories as possible to protect free speech. The second thing I think about is that I is clear Quinn has a lot more to hide than we thought, just as the rest of the anti gamers.
Sargon made a new "This Week in Stupid" and it starts with things related to the gaming industry.


https://youtu.be/V2D2lULt_RM
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LeonardoCornejo: Sargon made a new "This Week in Stupid" and it starts with things related to the gaming industry.

https://youtu.be/V2D2lULt_RM
The sexual politics of Warhammer 40k. Circling the drain stuff. Any single topic that can have SJW-ism attached to it is now fair game.

We're a few short steps away from discussing the sexual politics of doorways and staircases.