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Gnostic: I am reading some inspirational story here
https://fourleggedlove.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/why-dogs-live-less-than-human-answer-of-a-6-year-old/

And I scroll down the comments and find something like this
https://fourleggedlove.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/why-dogs-live-less-than-human-answer-of-a-6-year-old/#comment-1442

No wonder the grandma live for so long
i think that it is what happens when we leave childhood and keep aging more and more... we loose innocence and common sense... and we grow bitter and dumber. or at least some samples of our specy proudly do that (and even make a career of being like that)
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Gnostic: I am reading some inspirational story here
https://fourleggedlove.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/why-dogs-live-less-than-human-answer-of-a-6-year-old/

And I scroll down the comments and find something like this
https://fourleggedlove.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/why-dogs-live-less-than-human-answer-of-a-6-year-old/#comment-1442

No wonder the grandma live for so long
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Djaron: i think that it is what happens when we leave childhood and keep aging more and more... we loose innocence and common sense... and we grow bitter and dumber. or at least some samples of our specy proudly do that (and even make a career of being like that)
I think it is because of our failed social engineering. Many people writing sociology and things like have their own self interest at heart instead of the whole of humanity,

People writing sociology need new catch phrase that pull in the eyeballs of people to survive. If they write the same old thing, but tried and tested over the ages, nobody would read them. And they may ignore long term effects for short term benefits. People need to see the effects immediately to believe the new ideals.

For example, many childcare books would teach you to reward your children for doing something, be it cleaning their room or homework, and that give immediate effects as the children would clean / homework immediately for their rewards. In the process duty and responsibility is thrown out of the window and entitlement sets in. And the part of Government that select which social ideology to teach officially only select ideology that benefits them or show results quickly.

The men and women grew up to be self-center, irresponsible adults. Thanks to Feminism, Women are guilty for most of it because Feminism instill responsibility on men to sacrifice for women. We keep on seeing "What I have to work or cut down my spending on luxury goods? You need to do more". "Papa is a bad man for not spending enough time with his family and are interested in working only. Maybe he is having an affair somewhere as nobody will want to work for such long hours."

As a result we are programmed things that are not good in the long term. It has become don't help out when someone is in trouble, he / she may be a scam / you will be convicted in law too if you try to break up a fight / You will be accuse of rape if you go near women / If you try to help the person overrun by another car and take him to the hospital, the person may accuse you of overrunning him, best let the police / ambulance handle this.

Contrast to your kid that is so trusting, sincere and kind. And what we become after indoctrinated by our society.
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Djaron: i think that it is what happens when we leave childhood and keep aging more and more... we loose innocence and common sense... and we grow bitter and dumber. or at least some samples of our specy proudly do that (and even make a career of being like that)
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Gnostic: I think it is because of our failed social engineering. Many people writing sociology and things like have their own self interest at heart instead of the whole of humanity,

People writing sociology need new catch phrase that pull in the eyeballs of people to survive. If they write the same old thing, but tried and tested over the ages, nobody would read them. And they may ignore long term effects for short term benefits. People need to see the effects immediately to believe the new ideals.

For example, many childcare books would teach you to reward your children for doing something, be it cleaning their room or homework, and that give immediate effects as the children would clean / homework immediately for their rewards. In the process duty and responsibility is thrown out of the window and entitlement sets in. And the part of Government that select which social ideology to teach officially only select ideology that benefits them or show results quickly.

The men and women grew up to be self-center, irresponsible adults. Thanks to Feminism, Women are guilty for most of it because Feminism instill responsibility on men to sacrifice for women. We keep on seeing "What I have to work or cut down my spending on luxury goods? You need to do more". "Papa is a bad man for not spending enough time with his family and are interested in working only. Maybe he is having an affair somewhere as nobody will want to work for such long hours."

As a result we are programmed things that are not good in the long term. It has become don't help out when someone is in trouble, he / she may be a scam / you will be convicted in law too if you try to break up a fight / You will be accuse of rape if you go near women / If you try to help the person overrun by another car and take him to the hospital, the person may accuse you of overrunning him, best let the police / ambulance handle this.

Contrast to your kid that is so trusting, sincere and kind. And what we become after indoctrinated by our society.
But we better remain silent or else. At best we get called MRA's and MGTOW as if that was an insult, at worst, well, there is a guy who was sued fro harassment for defying the feminist clique and many persons who lost their jobs for refusing to bow to the great SOCJUS.

[Edit] And I guess I am seing the effects right here and right now. I know I am the most vocal anti SJW here and one of the most politically incorrect. Even known for my vews on the made up genders:
No wonder why all my posts no matter how reasonable become low rated and my rep never goes beyond 25 and often stays arround 5.

I must be the most hated by the SJW cliques that prowl arround here, specially by the rate bully.

Well, maybe not the most hated, I get the feeling that place goes to Monkeydelarge.
Post edited December 19, 2015 by LeonardoCornejo
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LeonardoCornejo: But we better remain silent or else. At best we get called MRA's and MGTOW as if that was an insult, at worst, well, there is a guy who was sued fro harassment for defying the feminist clique and many persons who lost their jobs for refusing to bow to the great SOCJUS.
LOL! I sometimes call myself an "American Otaku" as it is. I'm more anti-RADFEM than MRA
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LeonardoCornejo: But we better remain silent or else. At best we get called MRA's and MGTOW as if that was an insult, at worst, well, there is a guy who was sued fro harassment for defying the feminist clique and many persons who lost their jobs for refusing to bow to the great SOCJUS.
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Rusty_Gunn: LOL! I sometimes call myself an "American Otaku" as it is. I'm more anti-RADFEM than MRA
Yeah, well, I am not an MRA either, but for some reason SJWs call anyone who does not agree with them MRA. It happened to an admin at a Facebook page I frequent yesterday (Or maybe a few more days ago) because the admin of the page criticized SJWs for making a petition against the inclusion of Bayonetta in Smash (The page is called Insane Pinkie Pie.)

Now. You might wonder why I assume it was an SJW who created the petition. Well, in the description of the petition it says that Bayonetta "sets a high standard for women", Which is obviously SJW/feminist/pro fat crap. Bayonetta does not set a realy high standard at all. She is fit, if that is a high standard then I am a skinny black 7 year old girl. Oh wait, I am an over weight 25 year old Mexican dude.
Post edited December 19, 2015 by LeonardoCornejo
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Rusty_Gunn: LOL! I sometimes call myself an "American Otaku" as it is. I'm more anti-RADFEM than MRA
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LeonardoCornejo: Yeah, well, I am not an MRA either, but for some reason SJWs call anyone who does not agree with them MRA. It happened to an admin at a Facebook page I frequent yesterday (Or maybe a few more days ago) because the admin of the page criticized SJWs for making a petition against the inclusion of Bayonetta in Smash (The page is called Insane Pinkie Pie.)

Now. You might wonder why I assume it was an SJW who created the petition. Well, in the description of the petition it says that Bayonetta "sets a high standard for women", Which is obviously SJW/feminist/pro fat crap. Bayonetta does not set a realy high standard at all. She is fit, if that is a high standard then I am a skinny black 7 year old girl. Oh wait, I am an over weight 25 year old Mexican dude.
I'm overweight myself and I find this "fat pride" (that many SJW's seem to have) to be a VERY dangerous mindset to have
Post edited December 19, 2015 by Rusty_Gunn
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LeonardoCornejo: Yeah, well, I am not an MRA either, but for some reason SJWs call anyone who does not agree with them MRA. It happened to an admin at a Facebook page I frequent yesterday (Or maybe a few more days ago) because the admin of the page criticized SJWs for making a petition against the inclusion of Bayonetta in Smash (The page is called Insane Pinkie Pie.)

Now. You might wonder why I assume it was an SJW who created the petition. Well, in the description of the petition it says that Bayonetta "sets a high standard for women", Which is obviously SJW/feminist/pro fat crap. Bayonetta does not set a realy high standard at all. She is fit, if that is a high standard then I am a skinny black 7 year old girl. Oh wait, I am an over weight 25 year old Mexican dude.
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Rusty_Gunn: I'm overweight myself and I find this "fat pride" (that many SJW's seem to have) to be a VERY dangerous mindset to have
I agree. Evern if I die due to coronary diseases I don't want the rest of the world to suffer the same fate.
OMG Leonardo you're being downreppred for not being a silent oppressed minority, just the way SJWs like 'em. I think I was too.
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Rusty_Gunn: I'm overweight myself and I find this "fat pride" (that many SJW's seem to have) to be a VERY dangerous mindset to have
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LeonardoCornejo: I agree. Evern if I die due to coronary diseases I don't want the rest of the world to suffer the same fate.
what pisses me of the most is people saying "saying being fat is unhealthy is hate speech and fat shaming"

no, being fat is unhealthy
being anorexic is unhealthy too

Don't hate science for this being so, and don't claim people are monsters if they don't find fat girls as attractive
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LeonardoCornejo: I agree. Evern if I die due to coronary diseases I don't want the rest of the world to suffer the same fate.
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dragonbeast: what pisses me of the most is people saying "saying being fat is unhealthy is hate speech and fat shaming"

no, being fat is unhealthy
being anorexic is unhealthy too

Don't hate science for this being so, and don't claim people are monsters if they don't find fat girls as attractive
Plus just writing "beautiful" on a body using a regular "magic" marker doesn't make it more true, those markers aint enchanted after all
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Rusty_Gunn: I'm overweight myself and I find this "fat pride" (that many SJW's seem to have) to be a VERY dangerous mindset to have
same here...

on the strict medical point of view, and on the longer term you can consider, it IS dangerous

not only it is a source of serious health problems (and even potentially lethal ones), it is also an aggravating factor for many unrelated problems many people can have in the course of their lives...

I am crippled/handiccaped person. this did NOT come from my weight (i was living a rather normal and happy overweighted life before it*), my handiccap is barely visible at first glance but very hindering and very limitating on every aspect of daily life (even in the practice of sedentary hobbies like "tv with family" or "playing video games")
from what i could read in state study on the handicap in my country at least, it is that 2/3rd of handicaped person (handicap that fits into the legal definition of it in our laws) have a non spottable yet true handicap...
as such i still am shunned, despised and harassed by "obvious" handicaped persons (most often they dont do that willingly or knowingly) AND by valid persons as well, and of course vocal sjw who claim to defend handicaped persons too
my handicap is not related to my weight YET was both aggravated by it AND prevented from normally healing/recovering because of it
My handicap can, statistically, fall upon 50% of 50 years old and above person (i am just a decade earlier than the average due to genetic/hereditary grounds)

so i am in very good position to tell you the "actual" pro fat nonsense IS dangerous
i never asked about this completely hyppocrit and BS nonsense; i admit though that in the couple late decade, i would have gladly liked just a "non anti-fat" constent harassement and bullying in daily life.
to every stupid person who ever bullyed someone, despised someone, hated someone, harassed someone on the only base reason of fatness, i want to say: you can potentially get fat at anytime, odds rising with age, with some genetic grounds, with weight unrelated diseases you could have that would involve cortisone treatment

so this "fat pride" is completely nonsense... people who are fat are not always like that by choice or lack of willpower, they struggle very hard to live with their status in an hostile world on daily basis for mundane problems; sometimes they can't have solution to leave their state even if they want to (genetic ground, side disease with cortisone treatment, side disease like crone syndrom or physical disability that prevent them from using the classic method of "eat healthy, do sport" to loose weight)
all that fat people ask and require is not encouraging their falling down, nor do they want being pushed further into their problem, nor do they want bunch of hispter trying to mimic them or pretend they defend them

fat people are already on a daily struggle you are mostly clueless about (finding clothes, cinema/bus seats, and the like), thank you, they have already enough bs to cope with. what they just want is that stupid superficial hollow headed folk give them a break and stop despising them, harrassing them and pissing them off, thanx. that would be a good start

(sorry for long rant, i just discovered this sjw pro-fatpride thing because of the quoted message and tried to read things about it and was horrified...)

*(i mean happy life even despite the complete arsehole behavior of most of the average "civilized, tolerant and high morale standard" bunch of people in my near daily vicinity)

i know chubby/overweighted persons who still are "pretty" and attractive, not because of them being fat, but despite of it... it may be just the face, or the posture and the way they are, the way they elegantly dress themselves, the fact that they are complete sweetheart persons to the point it shines outwards them completely, or a combination of all that. they are not beautiful because they are fat and fat=beauty as decided in an arbitrary way... they just are pretty because they are better persons than the average crowd, based on their behavior. and i know "magazine-like looking persons" who should be considered hot by nowadays standards but whom inner uglyness is so blatant, or who neglect themselves so much because they think nature gift will do most of the work, that they are instant turn off...
Post edited December 19, 2015 by Djaron
Wow CISA has been passed : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-18/congress-just-passed-second-patriot-act-and-nobody-noticed-how-cisa-became-law
Now lets all take a deep breath and think who you're voting for. And ofc thank this person who pushed this to pass apparently ; https://twitter.com/repkclark/status/621736851074871297
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Shadowstalker16: Wow CISA has been passed : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-18/congress-just-passed-second-patriot-act-and-nobody-noticed-how-cisa-became-law
Now lets all take a deep breath and think who you're voting for. And ofc thank this person who pushed this to pass apparently ; https://twitter.com/repkclark/status/621736851074871297
that sure will please and stimulate my own governement, and push it to do "worse" than that out of pride...

oh life will become so beautiful in my place (sarcasm intended)
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Shadowstalker16: Wow CISA has been passed : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-18/congress-just-passed-second-patriot-act-and-nobody-noticed-how-cisa-became-law
Now lets all take a deep breath and think who you're voting for. And ofc thank this person who pushed this to pass apparently ; https://twitter.com/repkclark/status/621736851074871297
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Djaron: that sure will please and stimulate my own governement, and push it to do "worse" than that out of pride...

oh life will become so beautiful in my place (sarcasm intended)
Don't worry, you don't have anything to fear if you don't have anything hide right? I mean, the most important function of the state is to maintain the existence of the state right? Not the balancing of freedoms and rights with legislation or protecting people's rights; which honestly sounds like an absurd set of things for the state to do. And ofc the 2nd function being free gender change surgeries from money appropriated from taxpayers.

/s
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Shadowstalker16: Don't worry, you don't have anything to fear if you don't have anything hide right? I mean, the most important function of the state is to maintain the existence of the state right? Not the balancing of freedoms and rights with legislation or protecting people's rights; which honestly sounds like an absurd set of things for the state to do. And ofc the 2nd function being free gender change surgeries from money appropriated from taxpayers.

/s
well, according to our recent "omagad-votethisinemergency-ofcourseweallagree-thehellwithusuallawmakingprocedure" new laws, you had mentionned two words or concept that would worth you swat breakin and preventive detention: "freedom" and "people's right"; as such i am forced to officially disagree with you on the open (though of course i agree with you)
Post edited December 19, 2015 by Djaron