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This:
bunch of rich white San Francisco trust fund babies

is everything one should need to know what these people are! What they actually say is that they dont like poor white people with different oppinions. Animal farm comes to my mind....
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No one linked the craptastic Newsweek article...
http://www.newsweek.com/gamergate-about-media-ethics-or-harassing-women-harassment-data-show-279736

What's more interesting is in the comments. A feminist who apparently takes the article to task, is not a GGer, gets attacked by anti-GG, and rips them a new one.

"Kelly Rued · Founder and Creative Director at Black Love Interactive LLC
Having worked with social media and web analytics for several years, I'm a little underwhelmed with your data analysis. Hopefully the report you got from Brandwatch was much more detailed than the summary in this article.

Why is there no timeline to contextualize the relationship of gamergate tweets to media coverage of these people/brands? For example, I would expect discussions of Brianna Wu to spike following her press junket where she alleged her harassers were representative members of gamergate. Since those allegations portrayed the entire movement as hateful harassers, they led to intense discussion of Wu among the thousands of innocent gamers she implicated as a hate group. If analyzing social media mentions for a business client, I'm sure Brandwatch would correlate the data to media campaigns and press mentions in other channels to give some idea of what events triggered these conversations. Without context, it's much harder to understand or speculate why some people were discussed more than others.

People like Grayson and Totilo did not do mainstream press interviews accusing gamergate of being a terrorist/hate group attacking women in games. Maybe that's why they did not generate nearly as much discussion as some of the developers you had Brandwatch look for (we can't really speculate though because you have not presented enough data to make a reasonable claim either way).

Had you really been interested in measuring gamergate's mentions of games press, you might have filtered for Arthur Chu, Ben Kuchera, Sam Biddle, Polygon, Gawker, etc. than a relative unknown like Grayson.

Also you could have filtered for relevant male game developers, like Phil Fish, or filtered for mentions of more famous and influential women developers (Robin Hunicke, Kim Swift, Brenda Romero, Sheri Graner Ray, etc.) who have not publicly accused gamergate of misogyny, harassment, and death threats (which is not to suggest these other women in games don't also feel that gamergate is a hate group, but just that they have not engaged gamergate on Twitter the way Zoe Quinn, Brianna Wu, Anita Sarkeesian, and Leigh Alexander have). Instead you only filtered for women in the games industry who have been very vocal in their condemnations of gamergate. If gamergate was specifically mentioning women developers mainly because they are women, then we would surely see more famous and influential women developers receiving as much or more gamergate mentions than a relative unknown like Zoe Quinn.

According to Kathy Sierra's Koolaid Point theory, the more famous and influential a woman is, the more she will attract misogynistic harassment and hate so surely we could draw some conclusions about gamergate from analyzing how they often gamergate mentions a few industry-leading, award-winning women developers, some with decades in the business and dozens of published titles. It would at least help us speculate how much of gamergate mentioning women developers is based on a woman simply existing in the game industry, and how much might be related to women condemning and antagonizing gamergaters.

I also wonder if your data is accurate because the brevity of tweets encourages shortened names and gamergaters often use nicknames including cryptic acronyms like ZQ and LW (there are so many snarky terms referring to Zoe Quinn that her mentions may have been much higher than reported here). But from the data presented, who knows.

So yeah, you've got a couple of bar graphs, some aggregate mentions, uncontextualized sentiment analysis, and they're tied neatly together with foregone conclusions. Maybe consider contacting a social scientist instead of relying on a brand monitoring company to correctly analyze a consumer revolt."

And after being attacked...

"Kelly Rued · Founder and Creative Director at Black Love Interactive LLC
Matthew Dean,

Let me talk slower, as if you are a man actively trying to misunderstand and misrepresent me.

I'm a feminist woman who has been openly critical of problematic social justice issues in games since 2004 (and never received any threats or harassment at all, which is why I noted the Kool Aid Point because misogyny is not commonly directed at women who have no influence, fame, or audience). So no, misogyny is not simply "common" so much as it is known to be a problem once women become prominent or achieve anything remarkable in games and tech.

My point was that to critically evaluate the claim that gamergate's mentions of female game developers if fueled by misogyny, we need to understand why there are more mentions of some women in games than others. Surely Swift is a bigger target for misogynists than Quinn because Swift is highly influential and has landed plum industry jobs leading teams for Valve and Airtight Games (w/Square Enix) that a misogynist in games would notice and resent. Yet I have not seen her criticized by gamergate, in fact I see gamers try to signal boost for her when they try to defend themselves against people arguing (facetiously) that everyone in gamergate simply hates women in games.

It's probably pointless to clarify anything or give real consideration to your reply. You didn't address any of my actual criticisms about this sorry excuse for data science in this article. But you don't really care what I have to say. I get it, you think I'm pro-gg and you're anti-gg and jumping on bandwagons full of dogmatic bullshit is fun for some people.

But understand this: you didn't just ignore and misrepresent an anti-gg post, you ignored and misrepresented a woman's ideas as "mental gymnastics" without offering a single valid counterpoint.

I'm not pro-gamergate, never used the hashtag. I don't get my panties in a bunch over media collusion because the mainstream media are shills and that's exactly how their business model works. It's like expecting a dog to stop licking its own asshole, not only will you be disappointed but the dog is better off. Mainstream press panders, it spins, it sells eyeballs to advertisers. If you don't like it, reject them, deny them the eyeballs. There are more than enough other sources of news and information about games online. Personally I prefer gamer forums where I can ask paying customers what they thought of a game.

I've got no skin in gamergate. I'm just a freethinker who can't fucking stand when people lie, abuse power, and misappropriate the social justice and feminism that I care about for selfish, disingenuous ends.

My post exclusively discussed the methodology of the data analysis in the article, but you felt the need to come and put words in my mouth about points I never tried to make, while totally ignoring every point I did try to make. If you see yourself as a man who supports women, please think about how dismissive you were to the substance of my ideas. I won't tell you how to feminist, because I don't believe you were genuinely engaging with my comment, but I am venturing a guess that you dismissed me solely because you thought I was pro-gamergate and to you, that meant I was not worthy of sincere consideration.

That is the problem with all of this anti-gg rhetoric. I sympathize with points on both sides but the only people I see willfully misunderstanding and preemptively dismissing the other side's thoughts and experiences are the anti-gg crowd. The indefensible tabloid style take-down pieces like this one on Newsweek are insulting and deserve to be challenged.

Do you not understand why it is deeply offensive that when a group of everyday people complain about mainstream media ethics, they are smeared as crazy woman-haters with over 6 weeks of dogpiling eerily similar articles from all major media channels? This does not raise a red flag for you at all? That is the real head-scratcher here."
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RWarehall: "Kelly Rued · Founder and Creative Director at Black Love Interactive LLC
TL;DR for the moment but I checked her website and it looks quite intriguing but it's currently down:
https://www.blackloveinteractive.com/
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Found her blog, very interesting reading, s good discussion of Zoe's game and a lot of great commentary. Now if everyone could talk about their nuanced positions instead of just taking sides.

http://kellyrued.com/
I still dont understand something. Why does the mainstream media, the one that is bigger and outside the corrupt gaming media, only reports one side of the argument, meaning, repeats that tired "GG are woman-harassers" line . What stake do they have in this? is it just lazy journalism? Does Gawker own Time and Newsweek?
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keithdrop: I still dont understand something. Why does the mainstream media, the one that is bigger and outside the corrupt gaming media, only reports one side of the argument, meaning, repeats that tired "GG are woman-harassers" line . What stake do they have in this? is it just lazy journalism? Does Gawker own Time and Newsweek?
I think it's because they don't care. If you believe that people are calling in favors, then it's a side effect of that. I simply believe that it leans more towards they're feelings that Video Games are bad things and people don't need them. I DO however think that we have been walking in an age where the press can't be trusted to be honest anymore, and that's pretty disappointing.
Have you guys already heard that Joss Whedon(the person who created the Firefly series) thinks GamerGate = KKK?
Post edited October 26, 2014 by monkeydelarge
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keithdrop: I still dont understand something. Why does the mainstream media, the one that is bigger and outside the corrupt gaming media, only reports one side of the argument, meaning, repeats that tired "GG are woman-harassers" line . What stake do they have in this? is it just lazy journalism? Does Gawker own Time and Newsweek?
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TwilightBard: I think it's because they don't care. If you believe that people are calling in favors, then it's a side effect of that. I simply believe that it leans more towards they're feelings that Video Games are bad things and people don't need them. I DO however think that we have been walking in an age where the press can't be trusted to be honest anymore, and that's pretty disappointing.
I want to believe it is some kind of colusion they have with the anti-gg crowd, but it could be that they just dont care becuase "it's just teh videogames". But if that is the case, then they are stupid, because from what Ive read on that mediamatters article, this could very well be the beggining of a culture war like hasnt been before in the usa, and in the world.

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monkeydelarge: Have you guys already heard that Joss Whedon(the person who created the Firefly series) thinks GamerGate = KKK?
He's a big stupid dumb prick if he believes that. And he sucks as a writer/director.

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keithdrop: I still dont understand something. Why does the mainstream media, the one that is bigger and outside the corrupt gaming media, only reports one side of the argument, meaning, repeats that tired "GG are woman-harassers" line . What stake do they have in this? is it just lazy journalism? Does Gawker own Time and Newsweek?
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TwilightBard: I think it's because they don't care. If you believe that people are calling in favors, then it's a side effect of that. I simply believe that it leans more towards they're feelings that Video Games are bad things and people don't need them. I DO however think that we have been walking in an age where the press can't be trusted to be honest anymore, and that's pretty disappointing.
One thing i forgot to mention, is that it's interesting to see that up to now, the only mainstream media that has covered very one-sidedly this, is the "liberal" media, that faux denounces as such. I wonder if faux picked up the story would they cover it the same way.
Post edited October 26, 2014 by keithdrop
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TwilightBard: I think it's because they don't care. If you believe that people are calling in favors, then it's a side effect of that. I simply believe that it leans more towards they're feelings that Video Games are bad things and people don't need them. I DO however think that we have been walking in an age where the press can't be trusted to be honest anymore, and that's pretty disappointing.
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keithdrop: I want to believe it is some kind of colusion they have with the anti-gg crowd, but it could be that they just dont care becuase "it's just teh videogames". But if that is the case, then they are stupid, because from what Ive read on that mediamatters article, this could very well be the beggining of a culture war like hasnt been before in the usa, and in the world.

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monkeydelarge: Have you guys already heard that Joss Whedon(the person who created the Firefly series) thinks GamerGate = KKK?
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keithdrop: He's a big stupid dumb prick if he believes that. And he sucks as a writer/director.

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TwilightBard: I think it's because they don't care. If you believe that people are calling in favors, then it's a side effect of that. I simply believe that it leans more towards they're feelings that Video Games are bad things and people don't need them. I DO however think that we have been walking in an age where the press can't be trusted to be honest anymore, and that's pretty disappointing.
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keithdrop: One thing i forgot to mention, is that it's interesting to see that up to now, the only mainstream media that has covered very one-sidedly this, is the "liberal" media, that faux denounces as such. I wonder if faux picked up the story would they cover it the same way.
It's true. Look here.
https://twitter.com/josswhedon/status/524015074932174849
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The Dish (Andrew Sullivan) has started to write about GamerGate:
http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/10/24/the-end-of-gamer-culture-2/
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keithdrop: I still dont understand something. Why does the mainstream media, the one that is bigger and outside the corrupt gaming media, only reports one side of the argument, meaning, repeats that tired "GG are woman-harassers" line . What stake do they have in this? is it just lazy journalism? Does Gawker own Time and Newsweek?
I'm wondering if there might be an ant-GGer that owns a PR company and has been busy with smear blitz. That might be why.
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keithdrop: I still dont understand something. Why does the mainstream media, the one that is bigger and outside the corrupt gaming media, only reports one side of the argument, meaning, repeats that tired "GG are woman-harassers" line . What stake do they have in this? is it just lazy journalism? Does Gawker own Time and Newsweek?
Because the mainstream media is controlled by feminists. So naturally, they are going to join their comrades in the fight against GamerGate...
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caesarbear: Felicia Day speaks out against GamerGate

She was doxxed in her comments that are now deleted.
What an idiot. She outright admits having no trouble interacting with average gamers prior to GamerGate despite having recieved threats from a few nutjobs (an unfortunate side effect of fame). But then she goes on to say that after being exposed to the fear mongering and divisive rhetoric of the anti-GG SJWs, she now actually crosses the street to avoid gamers!

This is blatant evidence that these SJWs are actually harming gaming communities, obvious proof of the hateful nature of their propaganda. And yet she and others somehow blame gamers and GamerGate! WTF? Have our schools gotten so bad that they've actually stopped teaching basic critical thinking these days or what?

Anyway... thanks for link. Hopefully her post actually opens some eyes to how poisonous these 'activists' really are...
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caesarbear: Felicia Day speaks out against GamerGate

She was doxxed in her comments that are now deleted.
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SeduceMePlz: What an idiot. She outright admits having no trouble interacting with average gamers prior to GamerGate despite having recieved threats from a few nutjobs (an unfortunate side effect of fame). But then she goes on to say that after being exposed to the fear mongering and divisive rhetoric of the anti-GG SJWs, she now actually crosses the street to avoid gamers!

This is blatant evidence that these SJWs are actually harming gaming communities, obvious proof of the hateful nature of their propaganda. And yet she and others somehow blame gamers and GamerGate! WTF? Have our schools gotten so bad that they've actually stopped teaching basic critical thinking these days or what?

Anyway... thanks for link. Hopefully her post actually opens some eyes to how poisonous these 'activists' really are...
Have you read the whole piece?
She says that it was wrong of her to cross the street and that only a small minority of the GG movement are trolls:

"A small minority are putting up barbed wire walls between us who love games. Because odds are 99% certain that those guys on the street who I avoided would have been awesome to talk to. I realize that letting the actions of a few hateful people influence my behavior is the absolutely worst thing I could do in life. And not an example I want to set, ever.

So to myself and to everyone else who operates out of love not vengeance: Don’t abandon games. Don’t cross the street. Gaming needs you. To create, to play, to connect."

(emphasis is mine)
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SeduceMePlz: What an idiot. She outright admits having no trouble interacting with average gamers prior to GamerGate despite having recieved threats from a few nutjobs (an unfortunate side effect of fame). But then she goes on to say that after being exposed to the fear mongering and divisive rhetoric of the anti-GG SJWs, she now actually crosses the street to avoid gamers!

This is blatant evidence that these SJWs are actually harming gaming communities, obvious proof of the hateful nature of their propaganda. And yet she and others somehow blame gamers and GamerGate! WTF? Have our schools gotten so bad that they've actually stopped teaching basic critical thinking these days or what?

Anyway... thanks for link. Hopefully her post actually opens some eyes to how poisonous these 'activists' really are...
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Piranjade: Have you read the whole piece?
She says that it was wrong of her to cross the street and that only a small minority of the GG movement are trolls:

"A small minority are putting up barbed wire walls between us who love games. Because odds are 99% certain that those guys on the street who I avoided would have been awesome to talk to. I realize that letting the actions of a few hateful people influence my behavior is the absolutely worst thing I could do in life. And not an example I want to set, ever.

So to myself and to everyone else who operates out of love not vengeance: Don’t abandon games. Don’t cross the street. Gaming needs you. To create, to play, to connect."

(emphasis is mine)
Besides -
Zoe Quinn - Doxxed and death threats
Annita Sarkesian - Doxxed and Death threats
Brianna Wu - Doxxed and Death threats
Felicia Day - Afraid to comment on GG in case she gets Doxxed and death threats, comments on GG, gets doxxed and death threats!

And you say the feminists are the censors!

Don't blame SJW, blame the people that are using GG as an excuse to Dox and death threat women, if GG really IS about the corruption of the press you need to weed out these nut-jobs that are using GG for this and separate going after the press from going after women / feminists, I... don't know how you'd DO this given that it's the internet but these are the new challenges we face in the 'New Media' world

In fact did anyone notice that this whole thing seemed to emanate from the 'chans' around the same time that the 'chans' were also hacking female celebs iClouds for nudie pics? Hmm...

BTW what's going on in this thread these days? It seems like you, Piranjade, are the only voice of reason who can still be bothered to offer counterarguments to the echo-chamber circle-jerk that's going on in here... That about right?

AND another thing! If this were really about corruption of the press and this was something people genuinly felt strongly about, surely, as well as an anti-GG movement, they'd be a separate PRO-feminist, ANTI-press corruption movement by now!
Post edited October 27, 2014 by Fever_Discordia