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LeonardoCornejo: Which reminds me that the Steven Universe fandom is hated even by the show staff for bullying a girl into suicide just because she drew a character as thin in stead of obese as Tumblr likes her (The character is chubby) and even worse when the girl confirmed she survived they attacked her more. This is the kind of people we must stop, those who use justice and good will as an excuse to censor and bully others.
I've been reading on that stuff and this actually caused a rift in the SU fandom, part of which now hates the creators. (It came close to causing me to vomit but that aside)

Why?

Because a coproducer defended zamii, saying fanart should not be a basis of harassment.
Moments later, these people suddenly claim on of the key figures in the production is a pedo. Others are still acting like they are the victim and Zamii the aggressor (I wish I was making this shit up) and some have continued to attack Zamii.

Like holy shit, these people claim to be paragons of good and justice, but bullied a girl to near-death for a few drawings she made and they didn't like.

and I looked at the links, I read their complaints and hate and let me tell you something. Every single one of them was either a) utter bullshit or in some cases b) EXTREMELY PETTY
She was for example bombarded with hate for drawing a humanized MLP character in native american clothing. They claimed this basically made her a neo-colonial racist monster/nazi.

I know this isn't really gg, but still...I couldn't just let this go. This is just to horrible. Jeez I knew tumblr was bad and the SU fandom was really bad at times, but even I didn't expect the SU fandom on tumblr to be THIS horrid.
Post edited October 31, 2015 by dragonbeast
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LeonardoCornejo: Which reminds me that the Steven Universe fandom is hated even by the show staff for bullying a girl into suicide just because she drew a character as thin in stead of obese as Tumblr likes her
I just took a look at her drawings. Not only are the tumblr activists assholes, they are also blind and stupid beyond fucking belief. To claim that her illustration is "thin" or even notably thinner than the original requires a very special kind of idiocy. It only adds a whole extra layer of morbidity to this story.
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Emob78: Kids, if you're in college, just leave it. Be a car mechanic or learn to fix refrigerators. You're paying thousands of dollars to be taught and instructed by assholes, just so you can graduate and be a professionally trained asshole.

College posts contact info of 5 officials standing by to tell students if their costume’s offensive
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/24847/
Or get a job part time to pay the bills. Companies like UPS will pay a substantial amount of money that can be used for tuition. College is still expensive, but 25k goes a long way at most state schools.
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LeonardoCornejo: To be honest I base my statement in my experience. When every single vegan, not vegetarian, vegan you interact with tells you constantly how you are unhealthy and morally inferior for eating meat, and when every single feminist you interact with in your college campus is the kind that goes to slut walks and talks constantly about the patriarchy, you tend to generalize. I should have been more specific on what kind of people I am talking about. But with few exceptions such as Paglia and Sommers I am mostly anti feminist, so that might influence my views. And about lesbofeminism, in my experience it has only wrong things, I have seen messages such as "men are not necessary to reproduce" "lesbianize yourself", and so on coming from that wave of thought.
That's selection bias. I've known a large numbers of vegetarians and vegans and it's a fraction of the total that behave like that. Some vegans aren't even identifiable as vegan if you're not watching what they eat and they don't tell you.

That being said, every time a vegan or vegetarian tries to convert me, I make sure to eat another helping of meat to make up for it. Revenge bacon is awesome.
Post edited October 31, 2015 by hedwards
External opinion : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvCznmEX0XE
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Gnostic: snip
I am going to buy his game now. That guy sees through the lies...
Post edited November 01, 2015 by Tiefood
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Shadowstalker16: External opinion : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvCznmEX0XE
I've never seen anything from her, but the sarcastical extremely dry humour is hilarious, especcially paired with this accent.
"I'm no gamer and suck at it, but loved to kill some Russians in Red Alert". <-- So not PI, but I actually knew various people from the former USSR that liked Red Alert for this reason, especcially my Polish friends way back in school.
A vent for violent energy in order to keep it out of your actual life is a very common thing in gaming indeed. I've read some study about it years ago.
http://www.science20.com/news_articles/violent_video_games_help_kids_manage_stress-2511
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/05/teens_videogame_anger_mgmt/
My desire to play violent games has sunk massively since my life isn't as harsh anymore as it was in my childhood.
Today I see myself playing lots of games that don't involve any violence at all while I blew the crap out of Quake 3 (which was banned here and still is) in nightmare mode when I was 15.
Fun fact: Of all the games I've played with my ex-GFs, Mario Kart and Quake 3 always were among the favourites.

My favourite part in her video is probably this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jnZMW8C6wA
Post edited November 01, 2015 by Klumpen0815
Top lel : http://i.imgur.com/MJkPI2e.jpg
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Klumpen0815:
I myself have found games to be an excellent and harmless way to vent the many frustrations I have.

but really massacring pixels is a far better way to deal with built up rage than getting in a real fight or insulting and shouting at a friend.
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Shadowstalker16: Top lel : http://i.imgur.com/MJkPI2e.jpg
Top kek

Someone at ubisoft clearly was tired of all the hate the politically correct have given them over time
Post edited November 01, 2015 by dragonbeast
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Shadowstalker16: External opinion : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvCznmEX0XE
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Klumpen0815: I've never seen anything from her, but the sarcastical extremely dry humour is hilarious, especcially paired with this accent.
"I'm no gamer and suck at it, but loved to kill some Russians in Red Alert". <-- So not PI, but I actually knew various people from the former USSR that liked Red Alert for this reason, especcially my Polish friends way back in school.
A vent for violent energy in order to keep it out of your actual life is a very common thing in gaming indeed. I've read some study about it years ago.
http://www.science20.com/news_articles/violent_video_games_help_kids_manage_stress-2511
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/05/teens_videogame_anger_mgmt/
My desire to play violent games has sunk massively since my life isn't as harsh anymore as it was in my childhood.
Today I see myself playing lots of games that don't involve any violence at all while I blew the crap out of Quake 3 (which was banned here and still is) in nightmare mode when I was 15.
Fun fact: Of all the games I've played with my ex-GFs, Mario Kart and Quake 3 always were among the favourites.

My favourite part in her video is probably this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jnZMW8C6wA
I'm pretty sure she said she was from Romania.
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Shadowstalker16: External opinion : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvCznmEX0XE
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Klumpen0815: I've never seen anything from her, but the sarcastical extremely dry humour is hilarious, especcially paired with this accent.
"I'm no gamer and suck at it, but loved to kill some Russians in Red Alert". <-- So not PI, but I actually knew various people from the former USSR that liked Red Alert for this reason, especcially my Polish friends way back in school.
A vent for violent energy in order to keep it out of your actual life is a very common thing in gaming indeed. I've read some study about it years ago.
http://www.science20.com/news_articles/violent_video_games_help_kids_manage_stress-2511
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/05/teens_videogame_anger_mgmt/
My desire to play violent games has sunk massively since my life isn't as harsh anymore as it was in my childhood.
Today I see myself playing lots of games that don't involve any violence at all while I blew the crap out of Quake 3 (which was banned here and still is) in nightmare mode when I was 15.
Fun fact: Of all the games I've played with my ex-GFs, Mario Kart and Quake 3 always were among the favourites.

My favourite part in her video is probably this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jnZMW8C6wA
Gamers are probably the least dangerous people on Earth because gamers actually release their violent energy unlike non gamers. Beware of non gamers...
Post edited November 02, 2015 by monkeydelarge
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Gnostic: snip
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Tiefood: I am going to buy his game now. That guy sees through the lies...
There is an interview with some developers on Gamer Gate.

There is also a collection of interview of pro Gamer Gate developers.

Even Ubisoft finds that "inclusiveness" have its price.

&lsquo;Well, we have much stronger, prominent females in our game.&rsquo; And the audience that they were trying to sell it to responded negatively,&rdquo; Caldwell said. &ldquo;Really, it's about pleasing the gamer, the people who actually care about the medium and who are going to buy your game, not those complaining for complaining's sake.&rdquo;

Not everything is moonlight and roses.
There are dev with less solid record that give people something to attack.
That's not an uncommon sentiment in the industry. Publishers tried to change the gender of the protagonist in both of DONTNOD's games (Remember Me and Life Is Strange), and I got an email awhile back from the people who made the Tales of Illyria games that made it sound like the gender of the main character played a huge role in their second game selling poorly.

Personally, I don't buy that excuse at all. LiS and Freedom Planet show up as 10/10 on Steam, and the 2013 Tomb Raider has apparently sold 8.5 million copies. Sounds to me like a bunch of people confusing correlation and causation and getting all antsy over nothing. If anything, gamers don't like poorly written female characters. Or poorly written male characters. Or poor writing (including token characters included solely to appeal to a demographic, which that quote oozes) in general.
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227: That's not an uncommon sentiment in the industry. Publishers tried to change the gender of the protagonist in both of DONTNOD's games (Remember Me and Life Is Strange), and I got an email awhile back from the people who made the Tales of Illyria games that made it sound like the gender of the main character played a huge role in their second game selling poorly.

Personally, I don't buy that excuse at all. LiS and Freedom Planet show up as 10/10 on Steam, and the 2013 Tomb Raider has apparently sold 8.5 million copies. Sounds to me like a bunch of people confusing correlation and causation and getting all antsy over nothing. If anything, gamers don't like poorly written female characters. Or poorly written male characters. Or poor writing (including token characters included solely to appeal to a demographic, which that quote oozes) in general.
This reminds me so much of Sargon's "Why Gamers Had To Die" videos namely #1 Gamers Don't Need Diversity How it was assumed that gamers needed that their character match the player.

Which is not the case for me anyways I've enjoyed playing men, women, children, beasts, mutants, aliens, machines & I'm sure other things I can't think of at the moment.
Post edited November 02, 2015 by Rusty_Gunn
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Klumpen0815:
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dragonbeast: I myself have found games to be an excellent and harmless way to vent the many frustrations I have.

but really massacring pixels is a far better way to deal with built up rage than getting in a real fight or insulting and shouting at a friend.
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Shadowstalker16: Top lel : http://i.imgur.com/MJkPI2e.jpg
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dragonbeast: Top kek

Someone at ubisoft clearly was tired of all the hate the politically correct have given them over time
Welcome to Fight Club. The first rule of Fight Club is: you do not talk about Fight Club. The second rule of Fight Club is: you DO NOT talk about Fight Club!
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227: That's not an uncommon sentiment in the industry. Publishers tried to change the gender of the protagonist in both of DONTNOD's games (Remember Me and Life Is Strange), and I got an email awhile back from the people who made the Tales of Illyria games that made it sound like the gender of the main character played a huge role in their second game selling poorly.

Personally, I don't buy that excuse at all. LiS and Freedom Planet show up as 10/10 on Steam, and the 2013 Tomb Raider has apparently sold 8.5 million copies. Sounds to me like a bunch of people confusing correlation and causation and getting all antsy over nothing. If anything, gamers don't like poorly written female characters. Or poorly written male characters. Or poor writing (including token characters included solely to appeal to a demographic, which that quote oozes) in general.
Not only poor written characters, I don't think it is wise to change the gender or character of a established franchise.

If the devs want to create different character / genders, they best make them in new IP.

This is because people grew fond of characters in an existing IP and becomes emotionally attached to it. It is like when people adopt a baby and grew found of it, suddenly the baby sport horns and tails, people will freak out. It is possible that the baby sports wings and halo, but more often than not, we see backlash. We had seen games like prototype and Devil May Cry, even though the gameplay and such is better then the previous game,


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Rusty_Gunn: This reminds me so much of Sargon's "Why Gamers Had To Die" videos namely #1 Gamers Don't Need Diversity How it was assumed that gamers needed that their character match the player.

Which is not the case for me anyways I've enjoyed playing men, women, children, beasts, mutants, aliens, machines & I'm sure other things I can't think of at the moment.
For me it is different. I can play games with protagonist of men, beast, mutants, aliens, machines, but Don't really dig into games with women and children as the protagonist.

To get the easy one out, I don't like playing Emo children that are angry at everything and even ungrateful enough to snap at their parents, someone who are kind to them or their allies. I feel very weird and out of character.and it grates on my nerves from time to time. Like the new Dante in Devil May Cry

That said if the children is children in name and form only, but does not act like a child at all, I can easily get into it, provided that the game is fun.

The same can be said for games with women protagonist. If it is a reverse dating sim and all the guys in the game try to hit on me...... I feel very disturbed. It may be interesting to dress, makeup, fashion the protagonist, but after a while when the novelty to trying new things wears off, what I am left with is weirdness. If the game is women in name and form only then I don't have problems.

When you claim you enjoy playing games as a women, are you referring to games with women protagonist in name and form only or in spirit too?

On the other hand, I don't agree with Sargon Gamers "Don't Need Diversity"
It is fine, not liking to play as a women, even with name and form only. But it is not right to say because I don;t like this you should not like this too. That is the logic of the extremist that cause much angst to many people.
If I don;t like something I just don't buy and play it.
It is fine telling developers a large number of people like this or don't like this (Provided you have proof) so it is in their commercial interest to develop a game based on such interest,
But it is not right to use certain group tactics that paint everything in a broad stroke that no one will buy it. If the devs think it is still commercially viable to create games that cater to a niche group, they should be allowed to do so.