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RaggieRags: I just leave this here and go: waxy.org/2014/10/gamergate_schadenfreude/

I especially like the last quote from Patrick Smith: "One would think the realization that "all my heroes are against me" might lead to some faint flicker of self-reflection."
See, here's the fun thing about all of those celebrities, all of those 'heroes'. WE. MADE. THEM. They wouldn't be where they are if it wasn't for us, and you know what? They're human, they can look at the media and be shown one side until they accept it.

My heroes? Sorry, I don't have celebrity heroes. I don't believe in that kind of shit. I don't get inspired by them, and I'm not in awe of their beliefs. My heroes are a lot more personal. My heroes are the people that have seen me at my absolute weakest, with no place left to go but up, and they dragged me to my feet without letting me wallow in dispair. My biggest hero is the woman who managed to hang on just long enough to see her son's 17th birthday when she knew ahead of time she wasn't going to survive cancer. As far as I'm concerned there is no one that I can admire more in life then the good, honest, caring people I know and interact with on a daily basis.

I've FOUGHT with my heroes, I've screamed at them, I've MOURNED at least one of them. So tell me, How many of my heroes are really against me?
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Plus those "heroes" could simply be misinformed There's so much misinformation out there that they probably think that GG is legitimately a hate campaign against women. I doubt they followed it from the beginning or researched its origins beyond the media's spin.
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It's just another crap article that is a little more focused. Rather than Gamers are Dead, now its Gamergate is dead. If you keep repeating it over and over it might become true...(silly).

A lot of minor industry celebrities have come out in support of a lot of the ideas. You don't see any of those mentioned at all. That article is just another propaganda piece. Another article proclaiming, "There's nothing wrong about gaming journalism. It's all from a bunch of misinformed baby-eating misogynists!"
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Did anyone notice how a lot of this anti gg is basically Californication being, well Californication... they're screwing themselves up without even realising.
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Spectre: http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/gamergate-an-un-pc-rebellion/
Spiked has been a little slow on covering the story but has one on the freespeech angle.
Nice. Thanks for the link!

Love this bit:

The gaming community is no stranger to cultural warfare and moral panic. In the 1990s, a cohort of censorious, ‘family values’ politicians waged a ceaseless campaign to regulate the gaming industry, following a series of panics over the ultra-violent Mortal Kombat series. In the early 2000s, the socially conservative activist Jack Thompson gained notoriety for engaging in a stream of litigation against video-game companies, arguing that they were responsible for everything from gang violence to school shootings.

The tenor of moral panic has changed since then. Now, the main source of fear, loathing and general misanthropy in the gaming industry stems from the cultural left rather than the socially conservative right. Similar to the old right, the new cultural warriors argue that games promote violence and reinforce so-called rape culture. Arguments that games perpetuate sexism and racism are also fairly common. Instead of being seen as mere escapism, the tastes of modern gamers are portrayed as dangerous and subversive, a threat to right-on values. Gamers ought to be feared and shunned. In this remarkable video, a cultural warrior goes on a tirade against mainstream gamers, culminating in the destruction of a copy of the controversial video-game Grand Theft Auto V before a cheering crowd. The misanthropic disgust with ordinary gamers is palpable.

The growing contempt of the games-industry elite for the preferences of gamers has accelerated in recent months. Following a major confrontation between gamers and activists last August over allegations of journalistic favouritism, article after article has been published decrying the gaming community for its alleged bigotry, sexism and narrow-mindedness. The worst examples of ‘social-media harassment’ were used as an excuse to present gamers as a mass of hateful savages. To those familiar with the regular and sometimes absurd panics over football fans, this language will sound familiar.

You may well ask how these activists are able to sustain these bizarre beliefs, particularly given the mounting evidence that gamers are actually a pretty diverse and welcoming group of people after all. One explanation is their fondness for echo-chambers, maintained through exclusive email groups, social media blocklists and mass deletions of user comments on open forums. The extent to which the new cultural warriors will go to remove uncomfortable opinions from view is quite extraordinary. Reinforcing, rather than challenging, one’s own biases has become the norm.
and:

The movement has no specific list of demands, but it is quite clear what its general attitude is. It wants the cultural warriors out. It wants the cosy clique of activists and journalists to lose their influence. It wants the demonisation of gamers to end. It wants diversity, not conformism.
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Post edited October 18, 2014 by SeduceMePlz
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RaggieRags: I especially like the last quote from Patrick Smith: "One would think the realization that "all my heroes are against me" might lead to some faint flicker of self-reflection."
That's some ego :)
Sorry, Mr. Smith, as much as I see good and bad on both sides, I have no idea who you are :)
And again the point was missed by a mile. :-)
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Has this been mentioned yet? XD

This has to be one of the funniest titles I've ever seen, and I like the Mortal Kombat refs in the screenshots. XD

http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-FJESUS/fist-of-jesus
Mercedes-Benz USA apparently pulls out of Gawker.
Post edited October 18, 2014 by Namur
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RaggieRags: I just leave this here and go: waxy.org/2014/10/gamergate_schadenfreude/

I especially like the last quote from Patrick Smith: "One would think the realization that "all my heroes are against me" might lead to some faint flicker of self-reflection."
Celebrities are not the same as heroes. Not saying I no longer enjoy any of those celebrities because of their position, but I value their opinion only in so far as an individual and give weight due to the validity of their opinion if they make any based on the facts they present. Not just because I enjoy their work.

A bunch of people who are popular can state the sky is purple, won't change the fact that it is blue.

Counter to the argument of what the article states, it takes real courage to stand up and take a position one feels is right despite the opposition of say popular and celebrity culture (and I'm not talking a position merely based on belief. One that is made after weighing the facts). The people who use facts and truth as guides are real heroes. A lot of people that support the movement get put down, blacklisted, and experience harassment like you wouldn't believe. Funny that's not talked about. Just go into the twitter feeds and check out the screen caps of discussions.
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Emob78: Simple rule to live by...

When a hobby becomes math, stop. Stop immediately and find a new one. Going by the rule would have saved many a D&D player from an unfulfilled life.
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Fever_Discordia: What if your hobby IS recreational maths?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_mathematics
Fine. So long as you're either counting boobs, booze, or bullets.
I had no internet for 4 weeks, is gaming saved? did we win?
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WBGhiro: I had no internet for 4 weeks, is gaming saved? did we win?
Nope. Still fighting.

This has become the First World War of the Internet.
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WBGhiro: I had no internet for 4 weeks, is gaming saved? did we win?
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CthuluIsSpy: Nope. Still fighting.

This has become the First World War of the Internet.
Yeah, actually, there are a lot of really surprising parallels.

Zoe Quinn isn't nearly as awesome a name as Arch Duke Ferdinand, though.
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WBGhiro: I had no internet for 4 weeks, is gaming saved? did we win?
Just like Catch 22 - ( or was it War Game?) we win by not playing. Or actually, keep playing (games).

Media will be what media always be...

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent:_Noam_Chomsky_and_the_Media]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent:_Noam_Chomsky_and_the_Media[/url]

In short, there is only one life - enjoy it.

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game portal will come and go, journalist who write whatever their bosses told them will come and go, maybe laughing all the way to the bank too.

just forget about them, and enjoy our one and only life.

remember about media hacking a dead girl phone just to get news? That is media. Just like a line from Chinatown...

"Forget it Jake, its media".
Post edited October 20, 2014 by fablefox