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LeonardoCornejo: Ironic, my sister, who is younger than me, is a robotics engineer, and I am in literary studies. Even funnier is that I was expected to become an entomologyst, and she was expected to be an english teacher or a vet.
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RWarehall: And I think that also displays the issue. Why were those the expectations in the first place? And we haven't even really addressed the issue of whether expected gender roles themselves are a necessarily bad thing. Is it so wrong that certain jobs tend to favor one sex as long as there is no real barrier to the other joining the profession?

I'm just using this more of an example, but why aren't these things part of any discussion of women as game programmers? Instead all the discussion seems to be about some illusionary wall put up by the patriarchy...
Simple, it is a lot easier to blame the patriarchy.

the thing is, those expectations were not built out of a stereotype, but of the interests we used to show as children. I do have a fascination with invertebrates and nature in general, and my sister loves pets and has skill at teaching. The thing is, as time passed I began to hate mathmatics and I have a sesitive nose. My sister on the other hand also liked robots, and she began to feel more interest for that as time passed. Basically it had little to do with gender roles, and more with what we liked and how much we liked it as we grew up. My sister constantly complains of how people believe her gender makes it harder for her to be in a STEM field even though that is not true, and actually she has found it easier because people are desperate to not look sexist so they don't push her as much as the males.
A little something to lighten things up in here....

IF men acted like FEMINISTS (OMG SEXUAL OBJECTS!!!!)
Google supports harassment : http://www.google-supports-harassment.com/

MRAs? More like Animal Rights Activists : https://twitter.com/PateTheMild/status/646817554149834752/photo/1
Post edited September 25, 2015 by Shadowstalker16
Is this the real life

Control the media, and indoctrinate the masses
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dragonbeast: Is this the real life

Control the media, and indoctrinate the masses
I see darkness for people who think the UN is credible and takes these conners' claims to task.
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dragonbeast: Is this the real life

Control the media, and indoctrinate the masses
HATE has to be a crime. Moral and ethical interpretations cannot sustain divergence or disagreement. The infidels must be destroyed. Where have we heard that before? We're seeing the embryonic birth of the pink haired Waffen SS. They're still building the reeducation camps and decorating the walls with rainbows and My Little Pony cartoons.

This will not have a happy ending down the road. Real live thought police. Orwell. Huxley. Big Bro/Sis, group think, endless war with East Asia. Very troubling.

In order for the race to be controlled, it must be tamed.

Aldous Huxley - Control Humans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9cbOLKkxzs
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dragonbeast: Is this the real life

Control the media, and indoctrinate the masses
If they wanted to shut down bad actors monetizing it, no better way to start than with themselves. Someone should've given them mirrors. Or would that be considered too cruel... (non-magic) mirrors are sexist anyway.

UN, Google, just stands to prove how far the indoctrination has gotten and how much bigger this is than just one subculture. It is about control, but not taming (imo) but divide and conquer, using radicals to pit people against each other then playing on their fears of 'the other side' in order to pass the Orwellian laws.
"bad actors should be shut down"
"they harass us by telling us "you're a liar""

This sounds to me like actual propaganda and thought control
anyone expressing an opinion different from ours and anyone calling out our bullshit needs to be shut down.

you know who else does that kind of thing? Kim Jong Un
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dragonbeast: Is this the real life

Control the media, and indoctrinate the masses
Looking at the proportions this is growing into and how happily big media outlets pick up on it and that also universities are stepping into the line laying ideological foundations...from somewhere comes money, for that.

I am not sure this is about feminism against sexism in gaming or about SJW against Gamergate or x against y anymore, this is the Bernays way, when you want to sell something to the people, you have to change their environment so that they want it by themselves. It is about getting narratives back in line. For years they tried to get a grip/control over the Internet
and got their asses handed.

This is about legislation to censor free speech and crack down on dissent.

Where is my tinfoil hat? OO
Post edited September 25, 2015 by MaGo72
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dragonbeast: Is this the real life

Control the media, and indoctrinate the masses
"bad actors should be shut down" ? so shoudn't these two be out on the street by now if that logic worked?
Assassin's Creed Syndicate has a transgender character : https://archive.is/ibiqJ
Yay I guess? Good to see an Ubi game go forward in some field at least, and this character seems promising. From the article, he doesn't seem to be pushing the diversity card down the player's throat and his gender is just a part of his character rather than being his entire identity like in Bioware games. Its good they care about this at least since they care much less for other aspects of their games. But remember Ubi said ''We promise to do better with PC'' before AC Unity and now they are saying the same about ''diversity'' so take their history as a warning if you're easily triggered, because a Unity level diversity fuckup will be fun to watch. Then again, with cheap brownie points from the RockPolyTakuSutras, what can go wrong?
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Shadowstalker16: Assassin's Creed Syndicate has a transgender character : https://archive.is/ibiqJ
Yay I guess? Good to see an Ubi game go forward in some field at least, and this character seems promising. From the article, he doesn't seem to be pushing the diversity card down the player's throat and his gender is just a part of his character rather than being his entire identity like in Bioware games. Its good they care about this at least since they care much less for other aspects of their games. But remember Ubi said ''We promise to do better with PC'' before AC Unity and now they are saying the same about ''diversity'' so take their history as a warning if you're easily triggered, because a Unity level diversity fuckup will be fun to watch. Then again, with cheap brownie points from the RockPolyTakuSutras, what can go wrong?
This just in:Kotaku names Ass Creed Syndicate the best game of 2015.
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Shadowstalker16: Assassin's Creed Syndicate has a transgender character : https://archive.is/ibiqJ
Yay I guess? Good to see an Ubi game go forward in some field at least, and this character seems promising. From the article, he doesn't seem to be pushing the diversity card down the player's throat and his gender is just a part of his character rather than being his entire identity like in Bioware games. Its good they care about this at least since they care much less for other aspects of their games. But remember Ubi said ''We promise to do better with PC'' before AC Unity and now they are saying the same about ''diversity'' so take their history as a warning if you're easily triggered, because a Unity level diversity fuckup will be fun to watch. Then again, with cheap brownie points from the RockPolyTakuSutras, what can go wrong?
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Mr.Caine: This just in:Kotaku names Ass Creed Syndicate the best game of 2015.
Nah they would melt in the presence of anything with ''ass'' in it.
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dragonbeast: Is this the real life

Control the media, and indoctrinate the masses
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MaGo72: Looking at the proportions this is growing into and how happily big media outlets pick up on it and that also universities are stepping into the line laying ideological foundations...from somewhere comes money, for that.

I am not sure this is about feminism against sexism in gaming or about SJW against Gamergate or x against y anymore, this is the Bernays way, when you want to sell something to the people, you have to change their environment so that they want it by themselves. It is about getting narratives back in line. For years they tried to get a grip/control over the Internet
and got their asses handed.

This is about legislation to censor free speech and crack down on dissent.

Where is my tinfoil hat? OO
Edward Bernays and the Art of Public Manipulation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiKMmrG1ZKU

Go to 1:55 and listen to the part that talks about the work he did for the tobacco companies and women smokers. Then hear that clicking sound in your head. Thinking. Getting warmer.. getting warmer... warmer...
Forgot to mention; the 2nd GG meetup in San Fransisco is happening in a bit. May the Force be with them.