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TStael: snip
How can you claim Anita is not a critic? She complains about specific games and calls them problematic. She frequently Tweets about games she dislikes, yet somehow she deserves some sort of free pass for her attacks on certain games? Get real!!

Counter-criticism of her is not harassment. She chose to go after video games and by publicly espousing her opinions, she has put herself in a position which others have every right to publicly disagree with her and showed the levels of dishonesty in her own obviously biased criticisms.

When idiots like her claim video games cause mass shootings, she is deservingly going to get a lot of flak. Because what she said is just promoting her agenda. When she lies about the Witcher games, she shows herself to be a dishonest individual.

The fact you wish to make claims about Gamergate "harassing" Anita for no reason and claiming it tells something about Gamergate, no your comment says something about you. You are a liar. You are a deceiver, you are a troll. She is clearly a critic as she gets paid quite a bit to do speeches doing exactly that.

You've been given many links before, how about you actually read them. Instead, coming back every week and pretending Gamergate has done nothing but harass...

We've told you about positive results, what are you actually bringing to this discussion besides your feeble attempts at trying to paint us here as something we aren't. You are the prototypical example of a delusional SJW at work...
Post edited July 13, 2015 by RWarehall
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dragonbeast: The seller did nazi the problem. Everything went south when that guy looked at it. Perhaps selling the stuff wasn't civil.
Maybe the seller isn't reich in the head?

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RWarehall: Counter-criticism of her is not harassment. She chose to go after video games and by publicly espousing her opinions, she has put herself in a position which others have every right to publicly disagree with her and showed the levels of dishonesty in her own obviously biased criticisms.
That reminds me of a video I saw earlier today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7FuEaiC-ms

Some huge Witcher 3 spoilers in there, but a solid video nonetheless.
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HiPhish: Are you aware that every single society on earth that has managed to survive for more than a few generations has the some "archaic and distinctly notion of a sex/gender binary"? This whole non-binary gender bending was actually started in the West, more precisely in the US, during the last century.
hahahahahaha!! What???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathoey

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muxe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_in_Bugis_society

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia[/url])
Post edited July 13, 2015 by htown1980
I started playing Red Faction: Guerrilla yesterday and decided to crawl some Wikia pages to refresh my memory of previous games. Lo and behold, I stumbled on the attached bit at the end of one of the sections.

Makes you wonder who's really fighting for equality between the sexes in the medium.
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htown1980: hahahahahaha!! What???
Let's go through your examples...
Yes, trans-people exist. It does not say anywhere they they are considered normal or an everyday occurrence though. To the contrary, if a family is disappointed by their children turning out to be kathoey that just proves my point.

They only live in one small region at the south of Mexico. Plus, according to the article, the entire phenomenon really began during the 1950s, the same period and continent I mentioned in my post. Gee, what a coincidence...

Again, only confined to a very small area, and coexisting with two other ethnicities that don't practice gender-bending.

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htown1980: [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)[/url]
A sect isolated from the rest of society picking up rejects from it to sustain itself. Clearly you have proven me wrong with this one.


So let's conclude: all the examples are at best only small self-containted societies embedded in a greater society that provides. Outside of their small societies these people are seen the same as everywhere else. Maybe I should have formulated it better: every society that can actually sustain itself and expand is following the binary gender-notion.
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htown1980: hahahahahaha!! What???
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HiPhish: Let's go through your examples...
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HiPhish: Yes, trans-people exist. It does not say anywhere they they are considered normal or an everyday occurrence though. To the contrary, if a family is disappointed by their children turning out to be kathoey that just proves my point.

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HiPhish: They only live in one small region at the south of Mexico. Plus, according to the article, the entire phenomenon really began during the 1950s, the same period and continent I mentioned in my post. Gee, what a coincidence...

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HiPhish: Again, only confined to a very small area, and coexisting with two other ethnicities that don't practice gender-bending.

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htown1980: [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)[/url]
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HiPhish: A sect isolated from the rest of society picking up rejects from it to sustain itself. Clearly you have proven me wrong with this one.

So let's conclude: all the examples are at best only small self-containted societies embedded in a greater society that provides. Outside of their small societies these people are seen the same as everywhere else. Maybe I should have formulated it better: every society that can actually sustain itself and expand is following the binary gender-notion.
So from your post above you are conceding the comments you made below are wrong?:

1. ...every single society on earth that has managed to survive for more than a few generations has the some "archaic and distinctly notion of a sex/gender binary"?
NOPE SEE ABOVE

2. This whole non-binary gender bending was actually started in the West, more precisely in the US, during the last century.
NOPE SEE ABOVE

The examples I gave (not intended to be an exhaustive list) have survived for more than a few generations and are not Western.

Second, "small self-contained societies"? Have you ever been to Thailand? You can't seriously suggest that the Kathoeys there are anything less than a major part of their culture. Or is a country of 68 million people a "small society"? Or are you trying to suggest that the Kathoeys live in a society separately from the rest of the Thai people?

The 7 million Bugis in Indo. Yup, that's tiny as well.

And to suggest Hijras (who exist in Nepal, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh and are legally recognised as being of a third gender) are "a sect isolated from the rest of society" really just shows your ignorance.

I don't have a problem with people saying that gender dysphoria is a mental disorder, many doctors consider it to be one and it is still technically classified as one in many medical texts (one that is also almost universally considered to be best treated by supporting the individual in physically modifying the body to better match the psychological gender identity). But to suggest it is both a recent phenomenon and something "started in the West, more precisely in the US" is nothing short of absurd.

And therein lies the problem with this debate. There are people involved in it who clearly have no idea what you are talking about. I mean seriously "This whole non-binary gender bending was actually started in the West, more precisely in the US, during the last century"... How could you possibly have made that statement? You could not have done any research into the history of transgender issues in eastern cultures before you made it, could you? If so, I would love to know the source.

Just on your last point, all those societies, Thai, Nepalese, Indonesian, Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi are all sustaining themselves and expanding. Do you really think they are not?
Post edited July 13, 2015 by htown1980
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WBGhiro: You know what has hurt indie game press the most the past years? Things like rigged Indiecades, Putting complete hacks and frauds like Fish, Anita and a whole slew of "journalists" on pedestals and making them arbiters of what is morally acceptable in gaming, making what social circle your game was born in matter more than its actual quality.

Gamergate is what indie games need, they don't have to be made in san francisco or bribe the newest head honcho on tumblr or something to actually get fairly promoted.
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TStael: U refer to Anita Sarkeesian by "Anita"?

Have you really reflected on the fact that "Anita" neither developed/wrote any computer games; nor did she commercially review them?

If not before, do so now, and tell me: why are u so touchy about "Anita"?

I perso think she should most certainly be allowed to go about her business unharassed - and in being neither a critic nor a developer, her being even drawn into this discussion tells enough about GG.

Fish I do not recognize. Care to elaborate?
She calls herself a pop culture critic and she has taken money for game analysis. Therefore, it is nothing but good 'ole equality that her videos at least be looked upon in a critical light. And when it happens, the vids are poorly researched, claims made in them have no proof and most game footage is stolen.
She brought herself into the discussion by trying to profiteer off it. And why do you care so much about harassment of $JWs? You know, other people get harassed as well!
Lastly I linked you to deepfreeze 2 times. It has the database of supposedly corrupt journos which you can use to make your decision; which is encouraged and not THIS GOOD THAT BAD, ME $JW NOW GIMME YOUR MONIES. Escapist, Kotaku, Polygon etc changed ethics policies as per GG's demands. Now if you can't get this a third time, I'll draw the conclusion that your here just to troll.
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TStael: U refer to Anita Sarkeesian by "Anita"?

Have you really reflected on the fact that "Anita" neither developed/wrote any computer games; nor did she commercially review them?

If not before, do so now, and tell me: why are u so touchy about "Anita"?
Why I'm getting touchy about her? I just mentioned her passingly as an example, it's you who got their panties all in a twist because i dared as much as mention her name, which apparently is only allowed to be written in quotation marks.
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HiPhish: Let's go through your examples...

Yes, trans-people exist. It does not say anywhere they they are considered normal or an everyday occurrence though. To the contrary, if a family is disappointed by their children turning out to be kathoey that just proves my point.

They only live in one small region at the south of Mexico. Plus, according to the article, the entire phenomenon really began during the 1950s, the same period and continent I mentioned in my post. Gee, what a coincidence...

Again, only confined to a very small area, and coexisting with two other ethnicities that don't practice gender-bending.

A sect isolated from the rest of society picking up rejects from it to sustain itself. Clearly you have proven me wrong with this one.

So let's conclude: all the examples are at best only small self-containted societies embedded in a greater society that provides. Outside of their small societies these people are seen the same as everywhere else. Maybe I should have formulated it better: every society that can actually sustain itself and expand is following the binary gender-notion.
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htown1980: So from your post above you are conceding the comments you made below are wrong?:

1. ...every single society on earth that has managed to survive for more than a few generations has the some "archaic and distinctly notion of a sex/gender binary"?
NOPE SEE ABOVE

2. This whole non-binary gender bending was actually started in the West, more precisely in the US, during the last century.
NOPE SEE ABOVE

The examples I gave (not intended to be an exhaustive list) have survived for more than a few generations and are not Western.

Second, "small self-contained societies"? Have you ever been to Thailand? You can't seriously suggest that the Kathoeys there are anything less than a major part of their culture. Or is a country of 68 million people a "small society"? Or are you trying to suggest that the Kathoeys live in a society separately from the rest of the Thai people?

The 7 million Bugis in Indo. Yup, that's tiny as well.

And to suggest Hijras (who exist in Nepal, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh and are legally recognised as being of a third gender) are "a sect isolated from the rest of society" really just shows your ignorance.

I don't have a problem with people saying that gender dysphoria is a mental disorder, many doctors consider it to be one and it is still technically classified as one in many medical texts (one that is also almost universally considered to be best treated by supporting the individual in physically modifying the body to better match the psychological gender identity). But to suggest it is both a recent phenomenon and something "started in the West, more precisely in the US" is nothing short of absurd.

And therein lies the problem with this debate. There are people involved in it who clearly have no idea what you are talking about. I mean seriously "This whole non-binary gender bending was actually started in the West, more precisely in the US, during the last century"... How could you possibly have made that statement? You could not have done any research into the history of transgender issues in eastern cultures before you made it, could you? If so, I would love to know the source.

Just on your last point, all those societies, Thai, Nepalese, Indonesian, Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi are all sustaining themselves and expanding. Do you really think they are not?
Well, at least you admit it is considered a mental disorder, as it should be, it is kind of a delusion not unlike that mental condition in which the patient believes he/she is dead, or that condition in which the patient believes a part of its body is someone else's and often ends up in the amputation of limbs. Otherkin are even worse because at least trans people still percieve themselves as humans.
MovieBob's final solution : https://archive.is/7KFHC . Hopefully the fall of the Axis is near.
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Shadowstalker16: Hopefully the fall of the Axis is near.
I hate to be the bringer of bad news. Unfortunately it's probably multi-generational. Moviebob is just the tip of the dumbed down hord that's coming. Just do a little research on COMMON CORE and you'll understand what they're doing to the next generation in U.S.schools. No doubt soon to spread across the planet.
2+2 = 5 (Original Source of video) (btw you think Gates could afford a better hair piece?)
Post edited July 14, 2015 by noncompliantgame
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Shadowstalker16: Hopefully the fall of the Axis is near.
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noncompliantgame: I hate to be the bringer of bad news. Unfortunately it's probably multi-generational. Moviebob is just the tip of the dumbed down hord that's coming. Just do a little research on COMMON CORE and you'll understand what they're doing to the next generation in U.S.schools. No doubt soon to spread across the planet. 2+2 = 5 (btw you think Gates could afford a better hair piece?)
Dumbing can only be down, not up. Unfortunately, people don't have to be good at what they do to be seen as good, and when teachers are so worthless that they can't teach; they'll preach. And this Common Core system will eventually reach a point where the teachers themselves won't be able to teach so the system will be broken, but the losses will be many.
I'd always thought how bad the primary education system in my country is. But a good 0 is better than a big -9. If education is failing as a character and knowledge building activity, at least its not doing damage along with it. This system however is scary. I hear homeschooling is a felony in Sweden; so hopefully they don't catch wind of this.

I bet the Prussians are XDing like hell now seeing their 1760s education scheme still being taken seriously.

Interesting critique : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si-kx5-MKSE
Post edited July 14, 2015 by Shadowstalker16
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noncompliantgame: I hate to be the bringer of bad news. Unfortunately it's probably multi-generational. Moviebob is just the tip of the dumbed down hord that's coming. Just do a little research on COMMON CORE and you'll understand what they're doing to the next generation in U.S.schools. No doubt soon to spread across the planet. 2+2 = 5 (btw you think Gates could afford a better hair piece?)
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Shadowstalker16: Dumbing can only be down, not up. Unfortunately, people don't have to be good at what they do to be seen as good, and when teachers are so worthless that they can't teach; they'll preach. And this Common Core system will eventually reach a point where the teachers themselves won't be able to teach so the system will be broken, but the losses will be many.
I'd always thought how bad the primary education system in my country is. But a good 0 is better than a big -9. If education is failing as a character and knowledge building activity, at least its not doing damage along with it. This system however is scary. I hear homeschooling is a felony in Sweden; so hopefully they don't catch wind of this.

I bet the Prussians are XDing like hell now seeing their 1760s education scheme still being taken seriously.

Interesting critique : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si-kx5-MKSE
I've added a link to a full interview with Gates talking about it. If you can manage to watch it without up-chucking. He talks around things a bit but you barely even need to "read between the lines" with what he's saying, he's really quite blatant.

A quick breakdown of just what COMMON CORE is for people in a hurry
Post edited July 14, 2015 by noncompliantgame
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Shadowstalker16: Dumbing can only be down, not up. Unfortunately, people don't have to be good at what they do to be seen as good, and when teachers are so worthless that they can't teach; they'll preach. And this Common Core system will eventually reach a point where the teachers themselves won't be able to teach so the system will be broken, but the losses will be many.
I'd always thought how bad the primary education system in my country is. But a good 0 is better than a big -9. If education is failing as a character and knowledge building activity, at least its not doing damage along with it. This system however is scary. I hear homeschooling is a felony in Sweden; so hopefully they don't catch wind of this.

I bet the Prussians are XDing like hell now seeing their 1760s education scheme still being taken seriously.

Interesting critique : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si-kx5-MKSE
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noncompliantgame: I've added a link to a full interview with Gates talking about it. If you can manage to watch it without up-chucking. He talks around things a bit but you barely even need to "read between the lines" with what he's saying, he's really quite blatant.
Illuminati indoctrination lol. M$ just can't stop at trying to fuck over us AoE fans, they gotta have everything.
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Shadowstalker16: Dumbing can only be down, not up. Unfortunately, people don't have to be good at what they do to be seen as good, and when teachers are so worthless that they can't teach; they'll preach. And this Common Core system will eventually reach a point where the teachers themselves won't be able to teach so the system will be broken, but the losses will be many.
I'd always thought how bad the primary education system in my country is. But a good 0 is better than a big -9. If education is failing as a character and knowledge building activity, at least its not doing damage along with it. This system however is scary. I hear homeschooling is a felony in Sweden; so hopefully they don't catch wind of this.

I bet the Prussians are XDing like hell now seeing their 1760s education scheme still being taken seriously.

Interesting critique : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si-kx5-MKSE
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noncompliantgame: I've added a link to a full interview with Gates talking about it. If you can manage to watch it without up-chucking. He talks around things a bit but you barely even need to "read between the lines" with what he's saying, he's really quite blatant.
He's done some TED-style talks on Common Core. Yes, very serious if you consider the implications for the future. When he talks about 'building' the kind of skilled workers they'll need in the future, the Orwellian level of human resource direction and control becomes very apparent. They want to control people in school to be educated for specific purposes so they'll be good in the sectors or industries where they'll be directed to. Rather than basic courses and electives allowing people to choose their own education, the State will basically tell you what your courses are going to be, what you need to do to finish with good grades, AND what job or career you will have after you've finished school.

So, the State is going to tell people what they're going to study, how long it will take, and what they will do for a living when they graduate. I can't see anything bad happening from that at all. Considering Gates used individualism, hard work, and independence of action (not to mention a little greed) to get his start, I find his support for Common Core to be a bit odd. Bill Gates never would have had the level of success he did have if he had been a public school student taught with Common Core. He'd be a lever jockey in some factory somewhere working 10 hours a day cranking out someone else's ideas on the assembly line.

But hey, competition is a sin, right Bill?