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Posted June 13, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: As they would say in my country, Anita Sarkeesian ya valió vergas. Or in English, Anita Sarkeesian is so fucked now. I mean, seriously, she never finished her Tropes vs Women in video games series, and therefore never gave the DVDs she promissed to her backers, and not even God knows where that money ended up.
and she promised it finished years ago
and it's only 60% done or so

watch this about it. (Video by Leopirate)

She officially scammed her kickstarter supporters while the videos she did produce were not of those production qualities they should have taken as long as it did. (She did not even use her own footage: she got 400K and yet STOLE footage without giving any cred. Thats right, she literally didn't have her own footage, pointing again to the fact she doesn't play what she talks about.)
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LeonardoCornejo: Steam should not allow this price increasing thing, I know some physical stores do that, but it is unethical.
not to mention illegal
Posted June 14, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: As they would say in my country, Anita Sarkeesian ya valió vergas. Or in English, Anita Sarkeesian is so fucked now. I mean, seriously, she never finished her Tropes vs Women in video games series, and therefore never gave the DVDs she promissed to her backers, and not even God knows where that money ended up.
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dragonbeast: and she promised it finished years ago
and it's only 60% done or so

watch this about it. (Video by Leopirate)

She officially scammed her kickstarter supporters while the videos she did produce were not of those production qualities they should have taken as long as it did. (She did not even use her own footage: she got 400K and yet STOLE footage without giving any cred. Thats right, she literally didn't have her own footage, pointing again to the fact she doesn't play what she talks about.)
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LeonardoCornejo: Steam should not allow this price increasing thing, I know some physical stores do that, but it is unethical.
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dragonbeast: not to mention illegal
Well, I forgot all that about Sarkeesian and the legality of such practices.
Posted June 14, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: Well, I forgot all that about Sarkeesian and the legality of such practices.
There are actually consumer protection laws forbidding bumping the base price of a product to make a sale look more impressive if I recall correctly.
Post edited June 14, 2015 by dragonbeast
Posted June 14, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: Well, I forgot all that about Sarkeesian and the legality of such practices.
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dragonbeast: There are actually consumer protection laws forbidding bumping the base price of a product to make a sale look more impressive if I recall correctly.
I think in my country there are no such laws. Most stores do that.
Posted June 14, 2015
Here's a general article on the topic. In the last few years a number of department stores have been accused of such practices such as Kohl's, Macy's and J.C. Penneys.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2345121/Bargain-hunters-beware-How-sale-prices-discounts-stores-mark-original-cost-20-sticker-slapped-on.html

Of particular note is this quote...

But in California, where the class action lawsuits against Kohl's and J.C. Penney are filed, the law states stores must sell items at the 'prevailing market price' for at least three months before putting it on sale.
Here is another link about it also talking about an Appeals Court decision upholding the litigation...
http://www.dglaw.com/images_user/newsalerts/Advertising_Fictitious_Sales_Litigation.pdf

Retailers should bear in mind that
the FTC’s Guides Against Deceptive
Pricing state that in order to offer
a product at a reduced price, the
original regular price must have been
an actual and bona fide price at which
the product was offered to the public
on a regular basis for a “reasonably
substantial period of time.” A regular
price cannot be established solely for
the purpose of creating a subsequently
reduced price creating the illusion that
a product is on sale when really the
“sale” price is the regular price. Rather,
the non-sale price must be the price at
which a substantial number of sales of
the product are made.
While not well-defined, a raise in price days before this sale certainly seems to be illegal in the U.S. and qualify as deceptive.
Posted June 14, 2015
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RWarehall: Here's a general article on the topic. In the last few years a number of department stores have been accused of such practices such as Kohl's, Macy's and J.C. Penneys.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2345121/Bargain-hunters-beware-How-sale-prices-discounts-stores-mark-original-cost-20-sticker-slapped-on.html

Of particular note is this quote...

But in California, where the class action lawsuits against Kohl's and J.C. Penney are filed, the law states stores must sell items at the 'prevailing market price' for at least three months before putting it on sale.
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RWarehall: Here is another link about it also talking about an Appeals Court decision upholding the litigation...
http://www.dglaw.com/images_user/newsalerts/Advertising_Fictitious_Sales_Litigation.pdf

Retailers should bear in mind that
the FTC’s Guides Against Deceptive
Pricing state that in order to offer
a product at a reduced price, the
original regular price must have been
an actual and bona fide price at which
the product was offered to the public
on a regular basis for a “reasonably
substantial period of time.” A regular
price cannot be established solely for
the purpose of creating a subsequently
reduced price creating the illusion that
a product is on sale when really the
“sale” price is the regular price. Rather,
the non-sale price must be the price at
which a substantial number of sales of
the product are made.
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RWarehall: While not well-defined, a raise in price days before this sale certainly seems to be illegal in the U.S. and qualify as deceptive.
US has good laws to defend the customer. That is why sometimes I feel like moving there, of course through legal means, I don't support the abouse and discrimination toward illegal immigrants but I understand why locals don't like them.
Posted June 14, 2015
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RWarehall: Here's a general article on the topic. In the last few years a number of department stores have been accused of such practices such as Kohl's, Macy's and J.C. Penneys.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2345121/Bargain-hunters-beware-How-sale-prices-discounts-stores-mark-original-cost-20-sticker-slapped-on.html

Of particular note is this quote...

Here is another link about it also talking about an Appeals Court decision upholding the litigation...
http://www.dglaw.com/images_user/newsalerts/Advertising_Fictitious_Sales_Litigation.pdf

While not well-defined, a raise in price days before this sale certainly seems to be illegal in the U.S. and qualify as deceptive.
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LeonardoCornejo: US has good laws to defend the customer. That is why sometimes I feel like moving there, of course through legal means, I don't support the abouse and discrimination toward illegal immigrants but I understand why locals don't like them.
Mexico's a great place! Especially in the south.
Posted June 14, 2015
Look who stumbled back in!
Posted June 14, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: US has good laws to defend the customer. That is why sometimes I feel like moving there, of course through legal means, I don't support the abouse and discrimination toward illegal immigrants but I understand why locals don't like them.
well not one country likes illegal immigrants, not one.

Besides, as an illegal immigrant, consumer protection laws probably don't count for you since you are not a citizen or legal resident.

The opinion on LEGAL immigrants may vary from nation to nation, but illegals are always frowned upon.

I see it often and I can somewhat understand it. (Political refugees being separate category naturally).
Illegal immigrants spend a fortune cross the Mediterranean in huge numbers in boats that barely hold together, somehow under the impression that the moment they set foot on EU soil life will be easy and everything will work out. And then they end up poor and homeless, except this time in Europe. I think that often, they are not necessarily better off then where they came from.
Sometimes I even wonder, had they not put that fortune in the dangerous cross, but invested it in their lives there, could they have been better off?

It's not that I dislike them, i feel fukkin sorry for them. They believed their lives would finally take a turn for the better, only to end up in the same crap, only on the other side of the sea (if their ships don't fall apart before they get there).
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Back on topic, I think the EU has similar consumer protection laws.
Post edited June 14, 2015 by dragonbeast
Posted June 14, 2015
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Shadowstalker16: Look who stumbled back in!
Well, couldn't stay away forever - what with The Sarkeesian Effect coming out soon and all. X-D
Posted June 14, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: US has good laws to defend the customer. That is why sometimes I feel like moving there, of course through legal means, I don't support the abouse and discrimination toward illegal immigrants but I understand why locals don't like them.
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dragonbeast: well not one country likes illegal immigrants, not one.

The opinion on LEGAL immigrants may vary from nation to nation, but illegals are always frowned upon. Besides, as an illegal immigrant, consumer protection laws probably don't count for you since you are not a citizen or legal resident.

On a side note, i think the EU has similar consumer protection laws.
I'm fairly sure Mexico should have something like that in place. Most countries do have even a basic level consumer protection legislation that is fairly good. Mostly its the companies that bend the laws so much that people think there is no legal provision. Like some American company once sent emails to Canadian citizens that piracy may land them with fines up to $150,000 even though Canadian law states the maximum fine for piracy is $5000 XD

On the immigration topic, illegal immigrants are at great risk of having their human rights violated because they won't go to law enforcement. IMO all asylum countries like the US, EU etc should pass some legislation for the proper conduction of immigration related issues and all countries should have easy to understand migration policies to make sure the citizens don't get trapped abroad. Ofc we don't have to deal with immigration because no one in their right mind will settle here; in a city anyhow and more people going abroad means less crowding? Well, truth is the truth.
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Shadowstalker16: Look who stumbled back in!
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noncompliantgame: Well, couldn't stay away forever - what with The Sarkeesian Effect coming out soon and all. X-D
I see you have gained rep on your holiday!
Post edited June 14, 2015 by Shadowstalker16
Posted June 14, 2015
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dragonbeast: well not one country likes illegal immigrants, not one.

The opinion on LEGAL immigrants may vary from nation to nation, but illegals are always frowned upon. Besides, as an illegal immigrant, consumer protection laws probably don't count for you since you are not a citizen or legal resident.

On a side note, i think the EU has similar consumer protection laws.
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Shadowstalker16: I'm fairly sure Mexico should have something like that in place. Most countries do have even a basic level consumer protection legislation that is fairly good. Mostly its the companies that bend the laws so much that people think there is no legal provision. Like some American company once sent emails to Canadian citizens that piracy may land them with fines up to $150,000 even though Canadian law states the maximum fine for piracy is $5000 XD

On the immigration topic, illegal immigrants are at great risk of having their human rights violated because they won't go to law enforcement. IMO all asylum countries like the US, EU etc should pass some legislation for the proper conduction of immigration related issues and all countries should have easy to understand migration policies to make sure the citizens don't get trapped abroad. Ofc we don't have to deal with immigration because no one in their right mind will settle here; in a city anyhow and more people going abroad means less crowding? Well, truth is the truth.
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noncompliantgame: Well, couldn't stay away forever - what with The Sarkeesian Effect coming out soon and all. X-D
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Shadowstalker16: I see you have gained rep on your holiday!
Yeah well you stay away from this thread ... you gain rep! :-)
Posted June 14, 2015
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noncompliantgame: Yeah well you stay away from this thread ... you gain rep! :-)
sad but true
Posted June 14, 2015
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noncompliantgame: Yeah well you stay away from this thread ... you gain rep! :-)
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dragonbeast: sad but true
Not that I stayed away for that reason, it just sort of happened. But with the big sale on I guess it was sort of inevitable that, as [Shadowstalker16] said, I'd "stumble in".
Posted June 14, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: US has good laws to defend the customer. That is why sometimes I feel like moving there, of course through legal means, I don't support the abouse and discrimination toward illegal immigrants but I understand why locals don't like them.
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noncompliantgame: Mexico's a great place! Especially in the south.
Mexico is quite good for the tourists, but for the locals it's an awful place filled with corruption and abuse of authority.
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dragonbeast: well not one country likes illegal immigrants, not one.

The opinion on LEGAL immigrants may vary from nation to nation, but illegals are always frowned upon. Besides, as an illegal immigrant, consumer protection laws probably don't count for you since you are not a citizen or legal resident.

On a side note, i think the EU has similar consumer protection laws.
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Shadowstalker16: I'm fairly sure Mexico should have something like that in place. Most countries do have even a basic level consumer protection legislation that is fairly good. Mostly its the companies that bend the laws so much that people think there is no legal provision. Like some American company once sent emails to Canadian citizens that piracy may land them with fines up to $150,000 even though Canadian law states the maximum fine for piracy is $5000 XD

On the immigration topic, illegal immigrants are at great risk of having their human rights violated because they won't go to law enforcement. IMO all asylum countries like the US, EU etc should pass some legislation for the proper conduction of immigration related issues and all countries should have easy to understand migration policies to make sure the citizens don't get trapped abroad. Ofc we don't have to deal with immigration because no one in their right mind will settle here; in a city anyhow and more people going abroad means less crowding? Well, truth is the truth.
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noncompliantgame: Well, couldn't stay away forever - what with The Sarkeesian Effect coming out soon and all. X-D
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Shadowstalker16: I see you have gained rep on your holiday!
We do have laws to protect the consumer, the problem is that they are not exactly good and most of the time companies bend them easily.
Post edited June 14, 2015 by LeonardoCornejo
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