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Fever_Discordia: The only part I'd quibble is above - I don't get how the girl deciding that her getting tortured is the best way forward and her actively trying to convince you not to prevent it hurts rather than confirms and explains Gies statement

"One sequence seemed specifically designed to see how long I could listen to a major female character have her fingernails pulled out"

her deciding that that's what she's going to have happen to her certainly seems like it's one way to reach the situation Gies describes to me...
Just to help clarify (I hope), the scene involves needing to get some information from a certain individual who also has a bounty on this girl's head. There are too many guards to fight their way inside, and the girl insists the only way for Geralt to get to talk to this man is by pretending he caught her and is delivering her for a reward. She pressures Geralt to do this, and says she is a big girl who knows what she is getting into and can handle herself.

Once inside though, you are free to interfere at any point and prevent the girl from being taken away or stop the torture at any time. The ability to do this is provided multiple times as if the game is encouraging you down this path, although of course it is up the to player in the end.

If you instead let the scene play out and reach the point Gies is talking about, it ends in a twist that he carefully left out of his review. The girl turns the table on her attackers and kills them all herself without Geralt's help. Like she tells you earlier, she's a big girl, she can handle herself and she rightly does so.

That is really the problem with all this. Gies makes it sounds like this game is little more than torture porn for people to enjoy when that could not be further from the truth. Torture turned into all the men getting killed BY the lady in question. How is this in any way "oppressively misogynistic?"

As a completely unrelated side note, here is a screenshot for those feeling that women are unfairly treated in the game. Here we have Triss holding a man by the balls with magic and causing a great deal of agony because she is tired of dealing with peoples' crap. Between her and the other main female characters you run into, much of this game could be seen as female empowerment. These women are ass kickers, not victims.
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RWarehall: He's not just interpreting art. He's not a random art critic.

He is informing the public about the qualities of the games he reviews. He receives the game pre-release as a service to the public, so they can be informed about it. His word goes out to thousands. As such, he has a responsibility to put his biases aside and write a review for "us", "the world". His job is to inform us of the qualities of the work not tell us his exaggerated opinions and lead the world toward his agenda. He has a responsibility to the objective truth.

If its wrong that Fox News can call Obama a Muslim knowing full well he's a Christian, then it is also wrong for Arthur Gies to unfairly push the misogyny angle where there isn't.

Unless you are claiming he has the right to propagandize?
Well, in Polygon's 'About Us' blurb they DO claim to feature "Reviews that bridge the gap between criticism and buying advice." So it does seem to be part of their stated mission statement to be more than simply consumer advice, right or wrong...
http://www.polygon.com/pages/about

If this IS the first steps towards 'high-brow' critique of computer games, they ARE slightly clumsy, faltering ones though...
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RWarehall: "The same cis-white male"
Dude. 'cis' is short for 'cisgender'. It goes before the 'male' bit. Learn to words.
I would love to hear someone saying the word cisgender in reality outthere somewhere in a cafe. Not here in phantasia aka internet because when you speak this retarded word loud out you must think to yourself you are just embarrasing!
But i know that will never happen because 99,9% isnt so embarrasing as the people with this "word" in their head. There are many evil people but not as embarrasing as ... you know ;)
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RWarehall: "The same cis-white male"
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SusurrusParadox: Dude. 'cis' is short for 'cisgender'. It goes before the 'male' bit. Learn to words.
The fact that you make a big deal of it proves the quality of the persons who use such terms. Why giving a label to that which, with no offense to transgenders, is the norm?
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SusurrusParadox: Dude. 'cis' is short for 'cisgender'. It goes before the 'male' bit. Learn to words.
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LeonardoCornejo: The fact that you make a big deal of it proves the quality of the persons who use such terms. Why giving a label to that which, with no offense to transgender [people], is the norm?
Fixed it for you.

'transgender' is an adjective, not a noun.

.. also you're a bit of an arse if you don't understand why a label is useful.
Shall we call refer to women as 'normal' but specify 'men' ? They are the norm, are they not?
The word is useful and has its place. That is enough.

First point: Word is useful, therefore it should be used correctly.
Second point: How about we don't fucking 'other' people like that and push the notion that relative minorities are 'abnormal' (complete with negative connotations of deviance, disease, & brokenness).
Third point: Same reason I'm affixing the label 'bit of an arse' to you right now; it fits.
(It's really terribly unsurprising when people like to use slurs, and ableist ones at that, in an attempt to mock & deride & try to dismiss appropriate terminology for things like gender and sexuality.
It's also unsurprising that it's the 'Gamergaters' spouting off transphobic fuckery. Disappointing.. but unsurprising.
C'mon, people.

Prove the consensus wrong: Surely you aren't all whiny pissbabies that can't stand criticism and demand that people you don't like shut up forever.

There's got to be at least one of you out there that really truly just cares about ethics and videogames, and manages to not be a transphobic ass, and/or sexist and/or homophobic and/or ableist.
I suppose I haven't seen any racism in this particular thread. I guess that's a tentative pass on that particular element of the 'not being an asshole' litmus test.

Protip: If you're trying to appear like the superior reasonable side, don't use blatant slurs and don't dehumanise entire groups of people. Simples~)
Post edited June 05, 2015 by SusurrusParadox
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LeonardoCornejo: The fact that you make a big deal of it proves the quality of the persons who use such terms. Why giving a label to that which, with no offense to transgender [people], is the norm?
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SusurrusParadox: Fixed it for you.

'transgender' is an adjective, not a noun.

.. also you're a bit of an arse if you don't understand why a label is useful.
Shall we call refer to women as 'normal' but specify 'men' ? They are the norm, are they not?
The word is useful and has its place. That is enough.

First point: Word is useful, therefore it should be used correctly.
Second point: How about we don't fucking 'other' people like that and push the notion that relative minorities are 'abnormal' (complete with negative connotations of deviance, disease, & brokenness).
Third point: Same reason I'm affixing the label 'bit of an arse' to you right now; it fits.
(It's really terribly unsurprising when people like to use slurs, and ableist ones at that, in an attempt to mock & deride & try to dismiss appropriate terminology for things like gender and sexuality.
It's also unsurprising that it's the 'Gamergaters' spouting off transphobic fuckery. Disappointing.. but unsurprising.
C'mon, people.

Prove the consensus wrong: Surely you aren't all whiny pissbabies that can't stand criticism and demand that people you don't like shut up forever.

There's got to be at least one of you out there that really truly just cares about ethics and videogames, and manages to not be a transphobic ass, and/or sexist and/or homophobic and/or ableist.
I suppose I haven't seen any racism in this particular thread. I guess that's a tentative pass on that particular element of the 'not being an asshole' litmus test.

Protip: If you're trying to appear like the superior reasonable side, don't use blatant slurs and don't dehumanise entire groups of people. Simples~)
First, I never used slurs.

Second, you are the most toxic and politically correct person I have seen in this place. You sound as if you were born in tumblr.

Third, do you realy think calling us pissbabies is not a slur? A rather ableist and or ageist one by the way.

Fourth, I do not care if you are going to defend groups or not, but satatistically so to speak, LGBT people are not the norm, and should never be, for that might not benefit the reproductive process of the species. I am notr talking about them being inferior (The thought would not cross my mind if I was not walking on eggshells all the time) or wrong, I am talking about the sheer numbers and what is normal based on the reproductive functions of the species.
Sorry but two males (or females) having sex won't yield any offsprng, even if they alter their body to look like that of the opposite. And you can't change that. Not only it is not normal in the reproductive sense, you could also say it is not natural, again in the reproductive sense.
And if you don't like that go and complain to mother nature or whatever you believe is the source of all life, because there is no way to change how humans reproduce for now.

I am tired of SJWs fowning upon heteronormativity and trying to make being straight something bad and making labels to make us look as if we were the ones who are breaking the norm.
I must make emphasis on the fact that I don't feel animosity toward LGBT (and I am not adding more leters to the acronym, back in the day it ws only LGB, the meaning does not change) peole, and I don't believe it is wrong to be abnormal, I am a fucking abnormal myself (OCD). But don't expect me to be politically correct.

By the way I am not transphobic or homophobic because that would require to feel animosity or believe those groups are inferior. I am not sexist because I believe people deserve the same oportunitites and a fair treatment based on their needs (No matter how sexist it might sound women DESERVE maternity leave, and gynecologists are needed). And I might be a little ableist but only because it is logical to belive people with mental retardation are not as intelligent or capable as a normal person, and they may become a burden to others. You were lucky to guess one out of four.
And I don't care if that is politically incorrect, it is scientifically accurate, and science is the only truth we should abide to.

OH, by the way, using the term retarded to refer to someone or something stupid is not ableism, it is recognizing the intellectual quatitative inferiority of persons with mental retardation and comparing the subject to it. It is insulting but not ableist. And in case you dare to say "B... Bu... Bu... But what about Rainman, and all those savant kids?" Let me correct you, they have autism, not reatardation.

Your behavior is actually a form of bullying, you are just going arround the internet nagging, complaining, and censoring anything you don't like and exerting pressure to force people into doing what you want.

*Drops mic*
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Post edited June 05, 2015 by LeonardoCornejo
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LeonardoCornejo: Snip
(Hmm.... consider the second step on that pyramid... something about glass house and throwing stones....)
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amok: (Hmm.... consider the second step on that pyramid... something about glass house and throwing stones....)
The purpose of that was to point that we would never reach an agreement given that we already have opposite positionsm but if you took it as an insult or a form of character assasination I could assume you have realized sh is a con artist who already scammed her audience (Her Kikcstarter streatch goals have not been delivered, her series is incomplete, and threfore nobody got their promised DVDs).
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RWarehall: "The same cis-white male"
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SusurrusParadox: Dude. 'cis' is short for 'cisgender'. It goes before the 'male' bit. Learn to words.
It can go anywhere in the string. You understood the meaning. I highly suggest you learn to use English. Ironic when you use a phrase such as "Learn to words" how you attempt to play grammar police...
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SusurrusParadox: Second point: How about we don't fucking 'other' people like that and push the notion that relative minorities are 'abnormal' (complete with negative connotations of deviance, disease, & brokenness).
I think you're reading wayyyyyyyyy too much into their phrasing to the point where you're making cis people look like cartoon villains who want nothing more than to tie transgender individuals to the railroad tracks while evilly twirling their old-timey mustaches.

Cisgendered individuals being "the norm" statistically ("the norm" referring to the average/expected and not "the only normal behavior, with everything else being abnormal" as you seem to have taken it) doesn't automatically make trans people deviants or anything else. Example: African-American and Hispanic people are the norm in Compton, California. That statement has no bearing on the white people who live there, nor is there any kind of inherent judgment or "othering" (which isn't even a real verb, but I'll play along) there.

Way to steer things away from a discussion about journalistic integrity, by the way.
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SusurrusParadox: Second point: How about we don't fucking 'other' people like that and push the notion that relative minorities are 'abnormal' (complete with negative connotations of deviance, disease, & brokenness).
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227: I think you're reading wayyyyyyyyy too much into their phrasing to the point where you're making cis people look like cartoon villains who want nothing more than to tie transgender individuals to the railroad tracks while evilly twirling their old-timey mustaches.

Cisgendered individuals being "the norm" statistically ("the norm" referring to the average/expected and not "the only normal behavior, with everything else being abnormal" as you seem to have taken it) doesn't automatically make trans people deviants or anything else. Example: African-American and Hispanic people are the norm in Compton, California. That statement has no bearing on the white people who live there, nor is there any kind of inherent judgment or "othering" (which isn't even a real verb, but I'll play along) there.

Way to steer things away from a discussion about journalistic integrity, by the way.
Agreed, let's go back to important #GamerGate related things.
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LeonardoCornejo: Agreed, let's go back to important #GamerGate related things.
To help move this back, tonight has certainly been interesting. We have already had Polygon say multiple times that there are no people of color within The Witcher 3 and imply the game is racist in doing so. Tonight though, Anita is talking about the women of color she found in the game and explicitly calling the game racist for the poor treatment of them (despite white females existing in this role too).

Contradictory information by both and the game is racist either way.
Post edited June 05, 2015 by Kurina
Apparently Anita's followers decided to attack the author of the Forbes article and he added a few updates...
Seems people are waking up to Anita and her made up bullshit...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2015/05/31/why-feminist-frequency-is-dead-wrong-about-the-witcher-3/
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LeonardoCornejo: Agreed, let's go back to important #GamerGate related things.
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Kurina: To help move this back, tonight has certainly been interesting. We have already had Polygon say multiple times that there are no people of color within The Witcher 3 and imply the game is racist in doing so. Tonight though, Anita is talking about the women of color she found in the game and explicitly calling the game racist for the poor treatment of them (despite white females existing in this role too).

Contradictory information by both and the game is racist either way.
The funny thing is we already have seen and know there are people of color (I preffer the term black but some people feel offended by it) since the first game with Azar Javed, who, as far as I know, is Zerikanian, which is like the equivalent to African/Middle Eastern in that setting.