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RWarehall: Because every Goddamn thing you say in this thread is the exact opposite of anyone else. You don't add anything to the discussion at all. You nitpick and otherwise act like an ass by coming back every day and stating the same bullshit you spouted yesterday. That''s why you are a troll.

We've shown exactly how Arthur Gies takes things out of context, how he doesn't even try to be objective; how does doesn't get his facts even right.

What have you shown? Oh yeah, you "think" he's being honest. And you are going to come back tomorrow and tell us how you think he's being honest. Then the next day and the next? Doesn't that sound like a troll to you?
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Fever_Discordia: I think you've mis-read Gies and taken his comments out of context, I think you'd done to his review exactly what you've accusing HIM of doing to the game he's reviewing

And I'VE shown exactly how you've done that and you won't listen and you keeping going on about it so, to me, the troll is you!
Well yeah.
He's the one throwing insults & calling others 'delusional' for disagreeing with him.
Whereas you actually appear to be a reasonable 'moderate' stance amidst the clusterfuck.
.. which to 'pro-GG' probably means you're some sort of SJW femifascist shill or something.

(Apparently you also say the opposite of everyone in this thread. Which is funny, b/c half your posts save me the effort of typing out a reply. So thanks for voicing reason and saving me the trouble.)
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RWarehall: Because every Goddamn thing you say in this thread is the exact opposite of anyone else. You don't add anything to the discussion at all. You nitpick and otherwise act like an ass by coming back every day and stating the same bullshit you spouted yesterday. That''s why you are a troll.

We've shown exactly how Arthur Gies takes things out of context, how he doesn't even try to be objective; how does doesn't get his facts even right.

What have you shown? Oh yeah, you "think" he's being honest. And you are going to come back tomorrow and tell us how you think he's being honest. Then the next day and the next? Doesn't that sound like a troll to you?
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Fever_Discordia: I think you've mis-read Gies and taken his comments out of context, I think you'd done to his review exactly what you've accusing HIM of doing to the game he's reviewing

And I'VE shown exactly how you've done that and you won't listen and you keeping going on about it so, to me, the troll is you!
I remember Gies for throwing shit at TW3 (Correct me if I am wrong) about how the game is very sexist. The only thing I can say about the people at Kotaku, Polygon, and Gawker is that I wish they get their Steam, GOG, Desura, Gamersgate, Shyny Loot, Origin, X Box Live, PSN. Nintendo, and any other gaming accounts revoked (That is like the biggest disgrace I can wish for someone without bordering in the unethical, immoral, or brutal).
We have developers such as Adrian Chmielarz explaining exactly what is wrong with the article...
https://medium.com/@adrianchm/the-boy-who-cried-white-wolf-on-polygon-s-the-witcher-3-review-f7ac8d7f0a5

Here's Steven Russell writing for Load the Game going into specifics of how misleading the claims Arthur Gies makes...
http://www.loadthegame.com/2015/05/28/sexism-witcher-3-polygon-article-got-wrong/

Here's Jeremy Conrad an author at Furiousfanboys...
http://furiousfanboys.com/2015/05/the-witcher-3-shows-how-polygon-shouldnt-review-games-editorial/

And finally we have Ian Miles Cheong, editor of Gameranx and until recently completely anti-GG,,,
http://stillgray.com/post/119992928665/what-games-mean-to-me

All of these people find great fault with Arthur Gies and Polygon's "review". All of them call it out for exaggeration and being wrong...

Or you can believe Fever Discordia who has admitted to coming to this thread "just to argue". Admitted not even reading the links before writing posts arguing against us (and called an SJW site an MRA site based on the name alone while pretending to have read the article). The same cis-white male who adnits to not having played Witcher 3. Have you even played Witcher 1 or 2 or read any of the books? Who is certain Arthur Gies is being honest and not taking things out of context....

Yup, Listen to and Believe Women (Supporters)...um...just because...despite the fact they know nothing of the topic...
Post edited June 03, 2015 by RWarehall
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Fever_Discordia: Why is it so hard for you to accept that other people have different opinions to you?
The frustrating thing is that it's nearly impossible to explain how Gies is off-base without spoiling parts of the game for anyone who stumbles into this thread. Suffice it to say that at least one of his assertions is shown to be wrong in dialogue that's part of the mandatory main quest (I just checked—it's not possible to skip past it, so he has no excuse), and other complaints he brings up are equally wrong. For example, that fingernail sequence? You can attack before you even enter the building, forever preserving said character's fingernails. "I chose to let someone be tortured and the game is bad for letting me be horrible even though there are viable alternatives that cater to my delicate disposition" is a stupid complaint, period.

Plus the numbers of women and men that are brutally killed and/or tortured is about even. The only difference is that a significant number of the male deaths are mandatory and you can do nothing to save them.

Seriously, play the game. I could go on and on about the sheer number of things he's objectively, provably wrong about. It has nothing to do with different opinions; he's either misrepresenting or outright fabricating things in order to be mad about them.

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RWarehall: Remember Me is just universally mediocre.
:(

I loved Remember Me. Great soundtrack, interesting combat system, and Nilin is badass. Definitely not an "SJW darling," though. I just checked Polygon and Giant Bomb's reviews of the game and neither bothered pointing out that she's a strong, mixed-race female character despite that being basically everything they could possibly ask for. Of course, failing to mention that isn't really a surprise given the fact that their narrative relies on the nonexistence of such portrayals, but it's still sad to see.
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227: \ I loved Remember Me. Great soundtrack, interesting combat system, and Nilin is badass. Definitely not an "SJW darling," though. I just checked Polygon and Giant Bomb's reviews of the game and neither bothered pointing out that she's a strong, mixed-race female character despite that being basically everything they could possibly ask for. Of course, failing to mention that isn't really a surprise given the fact that their narrative relies on the nonexistence of such portrayals, but it's still sad to see.
Allow me to clarify...mediocre, review-wise, which means not one of the 10 most polished AAA games of the year. I love a lot of indie titles because I like what they do on a shoestring budget. I thought Escape Goat was cute and really well designed for playability for example, but a game like that will not garner 9's or 10's nor really should it when compared to games with a budget a 100 times more. Remember Me has an average review rating of 65 on Metacritic, which isn't bad for a less-polished than AAA indie game. So now consider that vs. Witcher 3 and the amount on content, the graphics, the vast story and sidequests, the whole package. For Remember Me to get the same review rating as Witcher 3? Seems completely wrong. And I'm not even going to talk about the 2 hours to completely explore everything of Gone Home and tedious letter clicking getting a perfect 10 rating...

It's kinda like comparing Wigan to Real Madrid or Barcelona. You can be a Wigan fan, and admire their play, but if you had to rate them, you just can't rate them as good as the "big boys".
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RWarehall: We have developers such as Adrian Chmielarz explaining exactly what is wrong with the article...
https://medium.com/@adrianchm/the-boy-who-cried-white-wolf-on-polygon-s-the-witcher-3-review-f7ac8d7f0a5

Here's Steven Russell writing for Load the Game going into specifics of how misleading the claims Arthur Gies makes...
http://www.loadthegame.com/2015/05/28/sexism-witcher-3-polygon-article-got-wrong/

Here's Jeremy Conrad an author at Furiousfanboys...
http://furiousfanboys.com/2015/05/the-witcher-3-shows-how-polygon-shouldnt-review-games-editorial/

And finally we have Ian Miles Cheong, editor of Gameranx and until recently completely anti-GG,,,
http://stillgray.com/post/119992928665/what-games-mean-to-me

All of these people find great fault with Arthur Gies and Polygon's "review". All of them call it out for exaggeration and being wrong...

Or you can believe Fever Discordia who has admitted to coming to this thread "just to argue". Admitted not even reading the links before writing posts arguing against us (and called an SJW site an MRA site based on the name alone while pretending to have read the article). The same cis-white male who adnits to not having played Witcher 3. Have you even played Witcher 1 or 2 or read any of the books? Who is certain Arthur Gies is being honest and not taking things out of context....

Yup, Listen to and Believe Women (Supporters)...um...just because...despite the fact they know nothing of the topic...
Well, here's some random student chick writing for 'Girls on Games':
http://www.girlsongames.ca/2015/05/18/opinion-why-polygons-arthur-gies-the-witcher-3-review-is-not-toxic-to-the-industry-but-crucial/
OK it's not as emanate a source as Chmielarz but at least I'm not the only one who thinks like this...
Post edited June 03, 2015 by Fever_Discordia
He is trying to prove that social justice activism has no place in a review. Not that it is not important.
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227: \ I loved Remember Me. Great soundtrack, interesting combat system, and Nilin is badass. Definitely not an "SJW darling," though. I just checked Polygon and Giant Bomb's reviews of the game and neither bothered pointing out that she's a strong, mixed-race female character despite that being basically everything they could possibly ask for. Of course, failing to mention that isn't really a surprise given the fact that their narrative relies on the nonexistence of such portrayals, but it's still sad to see.
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RWarehall: Allow me to clarify...mediocre, review-wise, which means not one of the 10 most polished AAA games of the year. I love a lot of indie titles because I like what they do on a shoestring budget. I thought Escape Goat was cute and really well designed for playability for example, but a game like that will not garner 9's or 10's nor really should it when compared to games with a budget a 100 times more. Remember Me has an average review rating of 65 on Metacritic, which isn't bad for a less-polished than AAA indie game. So now consider that vs. Witcher 3 and the amount on content, the graphics, the vast story and sidequests, the whole package. For Remember Me to get the same review rating as Witcher 3? Seems completely wrong. And I'm not even going to talk about the 2 hours to completely explore everything of Gone Home and tedious letter clicking getting a perfect 10 rating...

It's kinda like comparing Wigan to Real Madrid or Barcelona. You can be a Wigan fan, and admire their play, but if you had to rate them, you just can't rate them as good as the "big boys".
God, Gone Homo is a glorified overprised walking simulator. The only reason it is popular is because there are homosexuals in it.
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RWarehall: Allow me to clarify...mediocre, review-wise, which means not one of the 10 most polished AAA games of the year. I love a lot of indie titles because I like what they do on a shoestring budget. I thought Escape Goat was cute and really well designed for playability for example, but a game like that will not garner 9's or 10's nor really should it when compared to games with a budget a 100 times more. Remember Me has an average review rating of 65 on Metacritic, which isn't bad for a less-polished than AAA indie game. So now consider that vs. Witcher 3 and the amount on content, the graphics, the vast story and sidequests, the whole package. For Remember Me to get the same review rating as Witcher 3? Seems completely wrong. And I'm not even going to talk about the 2 hours to completely explore everything of Gone Home and tedious letter clicking getting a perfect 10 rating...

It's kinda like comparing Wigan to Real Madrid or Barcelona. You can be a Wigan fan, and admire their play, but if you had to rate them, you just can't rate them as good as the "big boys".
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LeonardoCornejo: God, Gone Homo is a glorified overprised walking simulator. The only reason it is popular is because there are homosexuals in it.
The funny thing is that 'Walking Simulator' started out as an insult but seems to have become a legit genré all of its own, if Steam tags are anything to go by:
http://store.steampowered.com/tag/en/Walking%20Simulator/#p=0&tab=NewReleases
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RWarehall: For Remember Me to get the same review rating as Witcher 3? Seems completely wrong. And I'm not even going to talk about the 2 hours to completely explore everything of Gone Home and tedious letter clicking getting a perfect 10 rating...
I suppose that's a problem with ratings in general—judging a shorter, more linear standalone game against a big, open-world conclusion of a trilogy is one of those things a simple "one size fits all, out of five or ten scale" will never be suited to. Thanks for the clarification, by the way.

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Fever_Discordia: Well, here's some random student chick writing for 'Girls on Games':
He responded to that one point-by-point: https://medium.com/@adrianchm/the-boy-who-cried-white-wolf-part-2-5b331951a7

Incidentally, you calling her "some random student chick" is more misogynistic than the entirety of Witcher 3.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and she hasn't played the game either. Funny coincidence, that.
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LeonardoCornejo: God, Gone Homo is a glorified overprised walking simulator. The only reason it is popular is because there are homosexuals in it.
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Fever_Discordia: The funny thing is that 'Walking Simulator' started out as an insult but seems to have become a legit genré all of its own, if Steam tags are anything to go by:
http://store.steampowered.com/tag/en/Walking%20Simulator/#p=0&tab=NewReleases
Beside other legit tags like kawaii and illuminati................
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Fever_Discordia: The funny thing is that 'Walking Simulator' started out as an insult but seems to have become a legit genré all of its own, if Steam tags are anything to go by:
http://store.steampowered.com/tag/en/Walking%20Simulator/#p=0&tab=NewReleases
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Shadowstalker16: Beside other legit tags like kawaii and illuminati................
Seems legit enough. I mean, I think kawaii is a very legit tag, many games fit it. JK.
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Shadowstalker16: Beside other legit tags like kawaii and illuminati................
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LeonardoCornejo: Seems legit enough. I mean, I think kawaii is a very legit tag, many games fit it. JK.
Wait, what's wrong with kawaii? It's just cute - Japanese style
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawaii
Like that jet with the Pokémon livery...

"In 2014 the Collins English Dictionary in the United Kingdom entered "kawaii" into their then latest edition, defining as a "Japanese artistic and cultural style that emphasises the quality of cuteness, using bright colours and characters with a childlike appearance."
Post edited June 03, 2015 by Fever_Discordia
As I said yesterday, Fever will just continue to argue the same point over and over again, day after day. All just to argue. Notice how Fever dodged the question whether he even played Witcher 1 or 2 or read any of the books...

So we have more unqualified gits who know nothing about any of the games supporting a clickbait review...

But let me add Adrian Chmielarz's direct rebuttal to the article you posted as well as other detractors, explaining exactly how they are wrong. In fact it includes a great explanation about objectivity vs. subjectivity...

https://medium.com/@adrianchm/the-boy-who-cried-white-wolf-part-2-5b331951a7
Post edited June 03, 2015 by RWarehall
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LeonardoCornejo: Seems legit enough. I mean, I think kawaii is a very legit tag, many games fit it. JK.
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Fever_Discordia: Wait, what's wrong with kawaii? It's just cute - Japanese style
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawaii
Like that jet with the Pokémon livery...

"In 2014 the Collins English Dictionary in the United Kingdom entered "kawaii" into their then latest edition, defining as a "Japanese artistic and cultural style that emphasises the quality of cuteness, using bright colours and characters with a childlike appearance."
You are dense or something. It is not a legit tag to classify a game.