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In fact Theon was also forced to "join in". Susurrus, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. It was much tamer than the book. Get your facts straight.

Also funny how you claim criticism isn't censorship when your criticism is that THE SHOW SHOULDN"T SHOW RAPE SCENES! You are calling for it's censorship. What a moron...
Post edited May 23, 2015 by RWarehall
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RWarehall: In fact Theon was also forced to "join in". Susurrus, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. It was much tamer than the book. Get your facts straight.

Also funny how you claim criticism isn't censorship when your criticism is that THE SHOW SHOULDN"T SHOW RAPE SCENES! You are calling for it's censorship. What a moron...
I don't like Game of Thrones because of the overload of violence, the rape scenes and all the completely unneccessary stuffed in soft-porn, so I simply don't watch it. I'm amazed that many SJWs do watch it indeed, seems extremely hypocritical to me, possibly because the show is "hip" and you know... whatever.

Does anyone still remember the rape scene from "Deliverance"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRxUbv90lLI
It's uncut on Youtube multiple times although it's very graphic, extremely degrading and triggering as hell, I guess it's totally fine if a man gets raped...
Post edited May 23, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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Klumpen0815: I don't like Game of Thrones because of the overload of violence, the rape scenes and all the completely unneccessary stuffed in soft-porn, so I simply don't watch it. I'm amazed that many SJWs do watch it indeed, seems extremely hypocritical to me, possibly because the show is "hip" and you know... whatever.

Does anyone still remember the rape scene from "Deliverance"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqNMjZpSbnU
It's uncut on Youtube multiple times although it's very graphic, extremely degrading and triggering as hell, I guess it's totally fine if a man gets raped...
I think you have that wrong somehow. I don't think men can be raped...you know patriarchy, dominance, misogyny, somethingsomething...
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Klumpen0815: I don't like Game of Thrones because of the overload of violence, the rape scenes and all the completely unneccessary stuffed in soft-porn, so I simply don't watch it. I'm amazed that many SJWs do watch it indeed, seems extremely hypocritical to me, possibly because the show is "hip" and you know... whatever.

Does anyone still remember the rape scene from "Deliverance"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqNMjZpSbnU
It's uncut on Youtube multiple times although it's very graphic, extremely degrading and triggering as hell, I guess it's totally fine if a man gets raped...
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RWarehall: I think you have that wrong somehow. I don't think men can be raped...you know patriarchy, dominance, misogyny, somethingsomething...
I know as many men who got raped as I know women with such a backstory and seeing how hesitant the males are about it because of the reactions especcially from people who claim to be fighting for social justice and in fact are only fighting against men in every way they can, including victim shaming, not believing, etc...there surely are plenty more who don't even try to talk about it. Such reactions can be really terrible. Oh but I forgot, fighting for men's rights is defending "the perpetrators" and never victims of any sort, how silly of me.
Post edited May 23, 2015 by Klumpen0815
I think the big problem with a lot of the SJW "outrage" trolls is that they don't watch or play the games movies or TV they are complaining about. They hear about it from their friends in their echo chambers, and come out to forums to complain about it, acting as if they had. Just like with the GTA V outrage, their echo chambers didn't tell them how virtually every NPC can be killed, so they really believe only the prostitutes are the ones getting killed. Just as they believe only Sansa got raped or how it "wasn't in the book".

In essence, if their SJW buddies don't tell them something, it didn't happen.
Post edited May 23, 2015 by RWarehall
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RWarehall: snip

In essence, if their SJW buddies don't tell them something, it didn't happen.
Subjectivity as ethics!

Sorry, too good to pass... and taking the opportunity.

American History X - the rape is crucial plot point.
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SusurrusParadox: Most people with PTSD aren't asking that shit be banned or censored or anything of the sort.
They just want some fucking respect and tend to figure that a warning might be nice.
>watch GoT
>still need extra warning for assault violence and sexual abuse

and i criticized people saying they had a PTSD attack when all they did was feel a little shock and breathed a bit heavier. Is that PTSD? Is that not trivializing a serious medical case? Demeaning the value from people who ACTUALLY SUFFER FROM IT?

And if there is no medicine for PTSD, then we need to start working on one. Since PTSD is linked to sudden over stimulation of nerves and berserk neurotransmitters, it shouldn't be impossible. Almost every mental issue can be suppressed with pills.

And if something is an important and serious issue, why should it be barred from appearing in a show? Genocide is horrible, so ban anything that dare mentions it? If i see no evil there is no evil?

"You see people being strongly affected by rape as somehow irrational.
Is that what you're saying here? Because quite frankly that's bloody silly. "

no, It is normal this strongly affects people. That is bloody obvious and normal. What isn't is RAGING and burning and threatening something for displaying it.

"CRITICISM IS NOT CENSORSHIP.
Free speech, etc. "

difference between critism and "THE CREATOR DESERVE TO DIE THOSE FUCKING RAPE APOLOGISTS FUCK THEM GAME OF THRONES IS THE WORST THING ON EARTH FUCK YOU FOR WATCHING IT"

Murder affects relatives of victims very strong and survivors of attempted murder too, so ban all murder mystery shows?

"1.) I'm not sure about you, but fully-functional humans can maintain multiple stances at once and act upon many of them simultaneously.
In short: People are angry about more than one injustice. If you don't see it expressed constantly, that might be because it's tiring or not relevant to the particular subject. "

Yet when gg focuses on games media and not all media that doesn't count anymore. Nope. It's ok if antis do it though.
Post edited May 23, 2015 by dragonbeast
New exclusion program for getting mechanics-concentrated non propaganda game game devs out of unis : http://www.reaxxion.com/9006/digra-wants-to-ban-non-sjws-from-entering-college-game-design-programs
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Shadowstalker16: New
No.

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Shadowstalker16: exclusion
No.

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Shadowstalker16: program
No.

...it goes on like that.

It's a four year old study that evaluates what skills aspiring game designers need to have in order to be getting a job in the industry. The sole intent is to evaluate what the industry de facto asks of and needs from designers, and how these qualities can be taught to students.

There's no news. There's no perceivable "exclusion" and there's no proposed "program" here.

And look what the worst site on the internet has made out of it. These guys are getting fairly desperate.

Actually worthwhile reading experiences on gamergate's belated "coverage" of DiGRA 2015:

http://torillsin.blogspot.com.au/2015/05/digra-2015-aftermath-hashtag-anger.html
http://ungaming.tumblr.com/post/119569355555/observations-on-gamergates-belated-response-to
Post edited May 24, 2015 by Vainamoinen
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Vainamoinen: snip
So let's see, you once again refuse to discuss the actual article and instead merely provide unrelated, obviously one-sided links...

Yup, this is what goes for "proof" by SJW's...

Edit: Interesting how Vain chooses to "edit in" an explanation. A bad one at that, given he has clearly not actually read the paper referred to. Another interesting note about the paper, notice how it refers to a "Gamasutra" article I think that speaks volumes about the authors...
Post edited May 24, 2015 by RWarehall
Yup, from the paper itself...notice how they don't actually discuss this part of their conclusion in the paper.

Potanin (2010) and Taylor (2006) have observed the ‘I’ methodology in practice in game
development. Developers make the games they like to play. These games appeal to
players who are most like the developers. These players become developers and
perpetuate a closed loop of production. The production practices and ideologies they
perpetuate become entrenched in the videogame industry. Already we have observed that
gender representation in IGAD’s student body mirrors that of industry. The ‘I’
methodology of videogame production would appear to affect education as well.

The predominant personality types that represented half of our IGAD sample – ENFJs,
ENTJs, ISTJs and INTJs – represent less than 20% of the ‘normal’ population. Are game
developers missing out on a lucrative 80% of potential players simply because they are
making games for their own personality types?
This sure as heck does sound like these researchers are striving at a particular agenda to me...
Or in other words, change the games by changing the types of developers....
The basis of the article is a wild supposition. It automatically assumes INTJs, ISTJs and ENTJs naturally make the games they want to play, (without proof; yay, element of social justice).
Trigger warning: Sargon!

Appropriate old Sargon discussions involving DiGRA...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rouq-VdgXdo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28D6_8KuIpc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJyU7RSvs_s&list=PLM9L2W5aOI_1zFJPiJST1GpxOTP-qomDS&index=6

Well researched, very interesting, is it all mere coincidence....?

Edit log: Almost forgot the trigger warning for you SJW types, I mean that would be cruel to forget...
Post edited May 24, 2015 by RWarehall
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RWarehall: Trigger warning: Sargon!

Appropriate old Sargon discussions involving DiGRA...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rouq-VdgXdo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28D6_8KuIpc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJyU7RSvs_s&list=PLM9L2W5aOI_1zFJPiJST1GpxOTP-qomDS&index=6

Well researched, very interesting, is it all mere coincidence....?

Edit log: Almost forgot the trigger warning for you SJW types, I mean that would be cruel to forget...
Indeed, evolution can go both ways, like everything else in the entire universe bar where there is hipster support on one side; where the hipster supported side is objectively better.
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They make the games "they want to play" on the one hand, yet "they have subjected themselves to" on the other. Read that publication, it's actually interesting. You have to forget the mind numbing reaxxion article first, of course.

But, hey, let's discuss your "new" and the "exclusion" bits first!
Not only could this improve the students’ chances of success in the program, it may also enhance
their employability
. Atypical personality types could be injected into the industry to make it more representative of the
general population. Game development studios could use the information gained from our research to better match developers to genres and/or stages of production to improve a title’s completion rate and/or assure its quality.
reaxxion describes the publication as something totally different than it is, and that begins with Roberts' headline, which is, practically word for word, incorrect.

"DiGra" as a whole "wants" nothing here, no new requirements for accepting students are proposed (hence no ban), the fight for "social justice" doesn't come into play, and don't even get me started on the use of the word "college" here. Obviously, the entire world only consists of the US of A.

Mr. Sam Roberts has no idea what he's talking about, and spectacularly misses any kind of context he could ever use. Instead, Roberts desperately peppers his article with games that serve as triggering enemy concepts for the people that read this website: Candy Crush, Fruit Ninja, Depression Quest. Or gaming platforms: mobile, cell-phone.

A quick comparison shows that none of those games or platforms are even mentioned in the publication! Roberts is speaking about something entirely different than the text he supposedly talks about. Is it just his reading comprehension, or is there an agenda?

reaxxion is a fascist propaganda website read by an abject hate mob. That, and only that. As of now, it serves as the leading gamergate website. And that is incredibly damning for the movement.