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Fever_Discordia: Peace-out dawgs, keep it real, same bat-time same bat-channel etc. etc.
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Vainamoinen: There's not much to say about the deepfreeze site. Brasas says they're naturally targeting "SJW ideology" and "SJW demagogues". Which is interesting, as the term doesn't appear on the site. Maybe they've understood how this kind of enemy concept screams fascist propaganda to people with a brain. Doesn't save the site in any way though, it's still the same overbordering witch hunt. In addition to gamergate's trademark crude understanding of journalist ethics, over a hundred journalists (and a heap of non journalists) are getting smeared here only just for appearing on a journalist mailing list.

That constitutes most of the site's catalogue.

I guess they're all "SJW demagogues", eh? Y'all have to put them out of a job real quick. Don't buy from Jews and all that.
And yes, that comparison absolutely applies.
1) disclaimer present on deepfreeze sating being a member of gamejournopros is not a breach in itself "GameJournoPros membership isn’t an impropriety by itself. Read why DeepFreeze finds it notable.
Readers are encouraged to take entries critically, and form their opinion independently."
(did you actually even read the site? Or did you read it like anita plays the games she talks about?)

2) in your logic from don't buy from ****, check out attached image. Replacing men in Anitas tweets with jews creates some interesting perspective as to how extreme they are.

3) " how this kind of enemy concept screams fascist propaganda to people with a brain." so does this also count for your "OMG GATORZ. ALL GATORZ DO IS BAD. If you say anything that sounds like something a gator could say, you are evil"

4) And again with the fascist nazi references. Jeez it seems like a real obsession for you. And it seems you think "anything somewhat right = Neo nazi fascist"
You claim we do the enemy concept shit, yet you let no opportunity pass to compare us to nazis. (and we are the conspiracy nuts? ahahahaha don't make me laugh).

oh and BTW peeps, destructoid updated their ethics policy.
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Fever_Discordia: Peace-out dawgs, keep it real, same bat-time same bat-channel etc. etc.
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Vainamoinen: There's not much to say about the deepfreeze site. Brasas says they're naturally targeting "SJW ideology" and "SJW demagogues". Which is interesting, as the term doesn't appear on the site. Maybe they've understood how this kind of enemy concept screams fascist propaganda to people with a brain. Doesn't save the site in any way though, it's still the same overbordering witch hunt. In addition to gamergate's trademark crude understanding of journalist ethics, over a hundred journalists (and a heap of non journalists) are getting smeared here only just for appearing on a journalist mailing list.

That constitutes most of the site's catalogue.

I guess they're all "SJW demagogues", eh? Y'all have to put them out of a job real quick. Don't buy from Jews and all that.
And yes, that comparison absolutely applies.
GG 'Boycotted' all those site hey?
Ooh I get to cry 'Censorship' then *clears throat*
"Censorship, Censorship, CENSORSHIP, CEN-SOR-SH-I-I-I-P"
Hey, you know what? This IS fun, I'll give them that! :-D
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Vainamoinen: There's not much to say about the deepfreeze site. Brasas says they're naturally targeting "SJW ideology" and "SJW demagogues". Which is interesting, as the term doesn't appear on the site. ... Snip
For an intelligent person which you clearly are, your level of reading comprehension is far more interesting, and indicative of large bias where I'm concerned. As I've told you earlier yes?

I didn't say deepfreeze are targeting SJW, that's you conflating two related points which had different yet related subjects, as if they had the exact same subject. I answered Fever on gender targeting in GG ethics complaints by using deepfreeze as example, and then I answered him on the ideological connection of GG and SJW. You know, the bolded titles could have helped you not mix the two...

So, your whole point is based on a misunderstanding... which is ironic as I agree that deepfreeze makes no ideological discrimination that I see. Is a retraction in order? Because you pretty much made a factually false statement about what I said. You may weasel and say "they" in your sentence referred to something else, but since you mention the site, both before and after... well good luck with that.
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Fever_Discordia: GG 'Boycotted' all those site hey?
Ooh I get to cry 'Censorship' then *clears throat*
"Censorship, Censorship, CENSORSHIP, CEN-SOR-SH-I-I-I-P"
Hey, you know what? This IS fun, I'll give them that! :-D
deepfreeze: the sites/journos are not reliable

censor: remove it now! these sites must be shut down, the writers forbidden to ever write. reading their articles constitutes abuse. The sites encourage kids to lie and take bribes. They must be shut down and the articles deleted. if you don't you support abuse and rape. if you don't condemn them too.
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Fever_Discordia: GG 'Boycotted' all those site hey?
Ooh I get to cry 'Censorship' then *clears throat*
"Censorship, Censorship, CENSORSHIP, CEN-SOR-SH-I-I-I-P"
Hey, you know what? This IS fun, I'll give them that! :-D
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dragonbeast: deepfreeze: the sites/journos are not reliable

censor: remove it now! these sites must be shut down, the writers forbidden to ever write. reading their articles constitutes abuse. The sites encourage kids to lie and take bribes. They must be shut down and the articles deleted. if you don't you support abuse and rape. if you don't condemn them too.
yeah because Boycott = Censorship when it suits you and Boycott =! Censorship when it doesn't!
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EndlessKnight: Not that it can't be fun to debate and intellectually stimulating at times, but I sometimes wonder how often people are converted to another line of thinking with meaningful internet debate.
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RWarehall: I think it depends on the person. Some people seem so set in their ways and its clear the only reason they are here is to poke holes. Frankly, that has been the extent of most of the hecklers of late: Fever, Vain.

I'm not going to put Susurrus in that category yet (although, the first so many posts probably did belong). The last few posts seem to show some actual willingness to discuss things.

I'm willing to hear a good argument, but when some people think calling people names like anti-feminists or MRAs or misogynists is an answer to various discussions, its clear they have no real intent to talk about the issues and are really only here to heckle and harass. Ironically, exactly what they blame all of Gamergate for doing on the grounds a handful of anonymous people made some threats.

Seems to me, much of this debate has so little to do with facts, truth or logic, it's no wonder there has been little meaningful or useful dialog of late.
Pot. Kettle.
I mean, honestly. Look at the fact that any viewpoints opposing what is generally the 'pro-GG' group are consistently getting low-rated even if they are engaging and being at least as reasonable as their counterparts.
On top of that, you have instances of certain individuals just responding to be arses and throwing abuse (and using slurs, as though that somehow proves their support for ethics right enough) instead of actually discussing anything whatsoever.

As I suggested in another place discussing much the same things:
How about people work out what we actually agree on first?

And then we can move from a place of mutual understanding towards hashing out the clusterfucks that are the myriad points of contention.

Or.. alternatively.. everyone can just continue to bicker like spoilt brats and accomplish precisely nothing but shouting into the void at each other.

(Honestly, I'm pretty sure the core of all these arguments is a fundamental divide as to whether 'freedom of speech' trumps 'don't be an asshole' or vice-versa.)
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SusurrusParadox: snip
It's even more fundamental mate, we likely disagree what assholery is.

Anyway, I'm all for determining what we agree on, and I've been starting threads to try and find that common ground. What are your ideas?

And by the way, we're all getting downvoted, only some more than others.
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Brasas: And by the way, we're all getting downvoted, only some more than others.
yeah both sides seem to have members "in the shadows"
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Brasas: And by the way, we're all getting downvoted, only some more than others.
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Rusty_Gunn: yeah both sides seem to have members "in the shadows"
The silent pluralities.

That's a band name right there. :D
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Rusty_Gunn: yeah both sides seem to have members "in the shadows"
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Brasas: The silent pluralities.

That's a band name right there. :D
It's actually almost like a forth-wall breaking moment when you realise that you're not just chatting shit with the other participants of the thread and that's there's a whole 'audience' of lurkers out there - creepy and ego-stroking all at once!
I've been posting on forums since 2001 but I still always forget about the lurkers, observing away in the background...
Post edited May 13, 2015 by Fever_Discordia
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Brasas: And by the way, we're all getting downvoted, only some more than others.
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Rusty_Gunn: yeah both sides seem to have members "in the shadows"
It ain't me. If it wasn't for toxic downrep culture, I would've been at 300+ REP these days.
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Just because you're trolling MRAs doesn't mean you're not being awesome simultaneously - look at Hollywood:
http://www.dailydot.com/geek/reviewer-reaction-mad-max-sexism/

- Looks like we might finally be getting a truly decent 'Tank Girl' film then...
Why the sudden happiness for movies with rape portrayal when some of us can't tolerate some cleavage on a FF character?
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Shadowstalker16: Why the sudden happiness for movies with rape portrayal when some of us can't tolerate some cleavage on a FF character?
Personally I've never been against sexy but empowered and fully realised female characters that aren't just window dressing or 1 dimensional prizes to be won by the male protagonist

Plus that's like calling Django Unchained racist because it features black slavery and about 1million instances of the 'n' word when it clearly has a strong message of equality...
Post edited May 13, 2015 by Fever_Discordia
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Fever_Discordia: Just because you're trolling MRAs doesn't mean you're not being awesome simultaneously - look at Hollywood:
http://www.dailydot.com/geek/reviewer-reaction-mad-max-sexism/

- Looks like we might finally be getting a truly decent 'Tank Girl' film then...
Is it sad I LIKED the "Tank girl" movie? Corny as as all get out but I enjoyed watching it.