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Jonesy89: Addressing them by the gender they identify as is generally considered polite when you know it.
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Shadowstalker16: Makes sense, if only the social justice guy would do so instead of making up words like ''transphobic'' and many other retarded creations.
I'm not sure what you mean. 'Transphobia' as a term wasn't invented by people who were failing to refer to trans people by the gender they identify as; if anything, it's quite the opposite, referring to people who act like absolute cretins toward trans people, including people who, despite knowing what gender a trans person identifies as, proceed to refer to them by their birth gender. The position that you seem to be putting forward, unless I am seriously misreading it, is akin to suggesting that people who were squicked by gay people suddenly coined the term 'homophobia' to refer to the more asshole-ish of their own lot.
Post edited May 08, 2015 by Jonesy89
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dragonbeast: as you may be aware/have predicted, the journos are quite salty about opdeepfreeze

for those still unaware, opdeepfreeze is the launch of deepfreeze.it, the site that basically says "welcome to the salty spitoon, how corrupt are you?"

It has cataloged and sourced the unethical actions taken by journos

so yes, deepfreeze.it Is about ethics in journalism
Interesting. I do hope they keep the site free of speculation or minor occurrences otherwise it will be all too easy to write off the site as being whimsical.

Sadly enough, there's a lot of indirect evidence of shady stuff going on - for example, the Dragon Age 2 review is infamous by now for receiving 95% from PC Gamer while it was a step back in nearly every sense compared to Dragon Age 1 which got a lower score! No-one believes that this wasn't do to some bribery or corruption but you can't prove it, can you?
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dragonbeast: as you may be aware/have predicted, the journos are quite salty about opdeepfreeze
Is 'salty' a specifically GG thing or is it a term in (American?) English that I've not come across before?
If it's GG, what's the origin?
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dragonbeast: as you may be aware/have predicted, the journos are quite salty about opdeepfreeze

for those still unaware, opdeepfreeze is the launch of deepfreeze.it, the site that basically says "welcome to the salty spitoon, how corrupt are you?"

It has cataloged and sourced the unethical actions taken by journos

so yes, deepfreeze.it Is about ethics in journalism
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Red_Avatar: Interesting. I do hope they keep the site free of speculation or minor occurrences otherwise it will be all too easy to write off the site as being whimsical.

Sadly enough, there's a lot of indirect evidence of shady stuff going on - for example, the Dragon Age 2 review is infamous by now for receiving 95% from PC Gamer while it was a step back in nearly every sense compared to Dragon Age 1 which got a lower score! No-one believes that this wasn't do to some bribery or corruption but you can't prove it, can you?
Yes, it would be very interesting to see if they actually cover any 'AAA' corruption or if they just focus on the Indie guys and the mailing list in general...
Certainly, the pre-launch stuff up so far all all Indie and mailing list, it's early days though, admittedly...
Post edited May 08, 2015 by Fever_Discordia
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dragonbeast: as you may be aware/have predicted, the journos are quite salty about opdeepfreeze
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Fever_Discordia: Is 'salty' a specifically GG thing or is it a term in (American?) English that I've not come across before?
If it's GG, what's the origin?
its one that existed for a while now and it's origin lies not with gg.

salty
pissed, upset
She was salty because she lost the game.
by Anonymous August 20, 2002

Salty
Being angry, agitated, upset.
William Beckett(After his Sweater Shrinks): After all of that stressing about what we were going to wear and going shopping and scrambling. I'm a little salty.
by Katie783 April 13, 2008

Or the in my opinion best representation of modern day use of salty

Salty
The act of being upset, angry, or bitter as result of being made fun of or embarassed. Also a characteristic of a person who feels out of place or is feeling attacked
Boy you salty as shidd u didnt get to play today
by yungboss February 01, 2011

also has a lot of use in games and twitch chat.
when you defeat someone and they go "wow you so bad but this team so worthless" they are being salty

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Fever_Discordia: Yes, it would be very interesting to see if they actually cover any 'AAA' corruption or if they just focus on the Indie guys and the mailing list in general...
Certainly, the pre-launch stuff up so far all all Indie and mailing list, it's early days though, admittedly...
they do but their main goal is corruption in journalism. And gamers have been complaining about AAA for ages now
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Fever_Discordia: Is 'salty' a specifically GG thing or is it a term in (American?) English that I've not come across before?
If it's GG, what's the origin?
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dragonbeast:
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Fever_Discordia: Yes, it would be very interesting to see if they actually cover any 'AAA' corruption or if they just focus on the Indie guys and the mailing list in general...
Certainly, the pre-launch stuff up so far all all Indie and mailing list, it's early days though, admittedly...
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dragonbeast: they do but their main goal is corruption in journalism. And gamers have been complaining about AAA for ages now
Thanks for the 'salty' explanation - I don't believe we use that word in that context much over here, not around where I live anyway...

Yeah, but some examples of corruption in journalism (Zoe Quinn related stuff) are collusion with Indie people and some examples (DA2, apparently and Shadows of Mordor, defiantly) is collusion with AAA - it always takes 2 to tango, even if AAA HAS got the Journos by the balls, in a lot of cases

The sad thing is that no-one opposing GG is PRO 'corruption in journalism', we just feel that the situation at the moment is that you can dig up dirt on just about anyone and GG seems to be very selective in who it's going after...
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Shadowstalker16: Makes sense, if only the social justice guy would do so instead of making up words like ''transphobic'' and many other retarded creations.
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Jonesy89: I'm not sure what you mean. 'Transphobia' as a term wasn't invented by people who were failing to refer to trans people by the gender they identify as; if anything, it's quite the opposite, referring to people who act like absolute cretins toward trans people, including people who, despite knowing what gender a trans person identifies as, proceed to refer to them by their birth gender. The position that you seem to be putting forward, unless I am seriously misreading it, is akin to suggesting that people who were squicked by gay people suddenly coined the term 'homophobia' to refer to the more asshole-ish of their own lot.
I just wanted to know if it had any relations with other SJW hallucinations such as ''masnsplaining'',''manspreading'' etc. Either way, best not to invent words out of hysteria from a minor problem.

SALT:what is contained in the mixture of seawater and male blood SJWs drink before running amok on social media. Effects are rarely temporary and cause intensification of madness in most cases. The US F&DA rates it as a gender destroying drug. Kotaku rates it 11/5 with and 1 star out of 0. Also known as KotakuPolyEuroTheMarySuedew.
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Jonesy89: I'm not sure what you mean. 'Transphobia' as a term wasn't invented by people who were failing to refer to trans people by the gender they identify as; if anything, it's quite the opposite, referring to people who act like absolute cretins toward trans people, including people who, despite knowing what gender a trans person identifies as, proceed to refer to them by their birth gender. The position that you seem to be putting forward, unless I am seriously misreading it, is akin to suggesting that people who were squicked by gay people suddenly coined the term 'homophobia' to refer to the more asshole-ish of their own lot.
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Shadowstalker16: I just wanted to know if it had any relations with other SJW hallucinations such as ''masnsplaining'',''manspreading'' etc. Either way, best not to invent words out of hysteria from a minor problem.
A-HA So you admit there IS a problem!

(sorry, bored on my lunch break as much as anything else - waiting for Nordic to come back for good)
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Fever_Discordia:
big difference is that up to gg, indies basically got a "get out of jail free" card when it came to shady practices. When AAA, everyone raged, when an indie did it you were not allowed to even mention it. Anything was allowed if you were indie. Many do not not feel like everything is acceptable if you are an indie, that indies can't do anything wrong.
Are people still arguing over the internet about dishonest "journos" that nobody cares about?

Wake me when someone makes an actual Game
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ScotchMonkey: Are people still arguing over the internet about dishonest "journos" that nobody cares about?

Wake me when someone makes an actual Game
1) perhaps people do care about being correctly informed whether a game is a shitty piece of thrash or Montezuma's treasure
2) some people want games without ridiculous censor
3) games are being made, have patience
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ScotchMonkey: Are people still arguing over the internet about dishonest "journos" that nobody cares about?

Wake me when someone makes an actual Game
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dragonbeast: 1) perhaps people do care about being correctly informed whether a game is a shitty piece of thrash or Montezuma's treasure
2) some people want games without ridiculous censor
3) games are being made, have patience
Said by Cuatamoc, Eagle Warrior of Tenochitlan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJCZYT4E1u4&index=50&list=PLF2302F34B1C78F94
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ScotchMonkey: Are people still arguing over the internet about dishonest "journos" that nobody cares about?

Wake me when someone makes an actual Game
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dragonbeast: 1) perhaps people do care about being correctly informed whether a game is a shitty piece of thrash or Montezuma's treasure
2) some people want games without ridiculous censor
3) games are being made, have patience
Just look on Steam and see if it says Positive, Mixed or Negative - those things are usually pretty accurate :P
(unlike GOG reviews, actually, that usually turn the rose tinting up to 11, it has to be said!)

Plus the censorship things is just paranoia and fear-mongering


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dragonbeast: 1) perhaps people do care about being correctly informed whether a game is a shitty piece of thrash or Montezuma's treasure
2) some people want games without ridiculous censor
3) games are being made, have patience
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Shadowstalker16: Said by Cuatamoc, Eagle Warrior of Tenochitlan.
U OK hun?
Post edited May 08, 2015 by Fever_Discordia
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dragonbeast: 1) perhaps people do care about being correctly informed whether a game is a shitty piece of thrash or Montezuma's treasure
2) some people want games without ridiculous censor
3) games are being made, have patience
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Fever_Discordia: Just look on Steam and see if it says Positive, Mixed or Negative - those things are usually pretty accurate :P
(unlike GOG reviews, actually, that usually turn the rose tinting up to 11, it has to be said!)

Plus the censorship things is just paranoia and fear-mongering
joke removed from PoE
GTAV removed from target
attempts to get huniepop taken down
attempts to sabotage seedscape (because dev jennifer dawe is pro gg)

no demands of censor by antis?

meanwhile antis are fearmongering over gg being a terrorist group planning homicide and poison gas attacks that wants all females out of gaming and development
Post edited May 08, 2015 by dragonbeast
Everything wolo-diddlin fine o'course! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-_T7E360Zo
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Fever_Discordia: U OK hun?
Post edited May 08, 2015 by Shadowstalker16
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Fever_Discordia: Just look on Steam and see if it says Positive, Mixed or Negative - those things are usually pretty accurate :P
(unlike GOG reviews, actually, that usually turn the rose tinting up to 11, it has to be said!)

Plus the censorship things is just paranoia and fear-mongering
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dragonbeast: joke removed from PoE
GTAV removed from target
attempts to get huniepop taken down
attempts to sabotage seedscape (because dev jennifer dawe is pro gg)

no demands of censor by antis?

meanwhile antis are fearmongering over gg being a terrorist group planning homicide and poison gas attacks that wants all females out of gaming and development
Spotting an offensive, fan submitted, joke that Obsidian, themselves, admit slipped through proof-reading by accident and pointing it out to them is not censorship it's a heads-up

I am yet to see any evidence that any gamers, feminist or otherwise had anything to do with setting up the Change.com petition and that it wasn't brought about by 'civilian', feminist Target customers in response to Target marketing clearly labeled adult games at children

There's was always going to be a discussion about whether Steam could or should be selling hentai / porn games as it appears to be against their own Terms of Service, apparently. Turns out they can as long as they only turn 'full porn' after a patch - not sure why Steam even had that in its Terms of Service though - seems a bit prudish on their part really...

And finally, organising a boycott of the products of people you don't like isn't censorship either, it's affirmative action - I think Nestle are evil and (while I'm not religious about it) I try to avoid Nestle products as much as I can, if I went out of my way to preach about that and get other to do the same, I wouldn't feel like I was somehow 'censoring' Nestle - censoring an artist is making them change or edit their work, encouraging people not to buy it when it reaches market, artistic vision fully intact, is not!