Vainamoinen: In the words of Creepy Stalker, Esq.:
To be clear, if there was any conflict of interest between Zoe and Nathan regarding coverage of Depression Quest prior to April, I have no evidence to imply that it was sexual in nature.
Vainamoinen: In other words, that Nathan Grayson talked to Quinn and about Quinn's games prior to May must be considered a completely normal thing to do. As even the Creepy Stalker admits. Thank god. What incredibly pitiful result would those few words have been if she actually did sleep with him for positive coverage?
But that never happened, obviously.
But it's all sleight of hand anyway to keep up the crap. Against Quinn... not Grayson, of course... the data says that she gets 25+ times the shit Grayson ever got... but I'm sure there is no kind of bias involved, or even the m-word.
RWarehall: BUT SHE KNEW HIM BEFORE THEY STARTED A RELATIONSHIP HERE I HAVE PROOF YOU LYING INCOMPETENT SJW JEWS
Vainamoinen: Jesus. One of your arteries will burst these days.
Gilozard, you were of course correct. She didn't sleep with a journalist who promoted her work "as a result", and that is undeniable fact. The mentions of Depression Quest on kotaku occured earlier, and even then weren't worth ten bucks as avertising, let alone any sexual favors. To construct any kind of relevant collusion out of THAT is making a mountain out of a molehill, and by "mountain" I do mean the Olympus Mons at the very least.
Gamergate wants game journalists to be insiders, but doesn't want them to know anyone. Not any fellow journalists and certainly not any game developers. Don't talk to them! Don't look at them! Don't tweet at them! Don't do your job! Don't report on game culture! And when you report on gamergate, at least forget where it came from!
Gaters do ramp up the harrassment considerably this weekend, by the way. Something to do with that article that dared to describe the creepy stalker as a creepy stalker. Gaters at the ready... doing the work of their holy Lord Roosh V. et alii.
But, no, of course gaters "
are not talking about Quinn any more".
Kurina: Even Neogaf, who is decidedly anti-gamergate,
Vainamoinen: Read: "
Even Neogaf, because of its focus on actual corruption in journalism..."
Interesting how that focus has universally shifted, as the only corruption, the thing that really threatens video games, is gamergate.
Aren't you getting tired of bringing up the same stuff every week?
Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, Brianni Wu allegations Ping Pong every week?
But here I am mentioning again, that GG is not about the persons, but the ties between different companies/organisations like Silverstring Media, the IGDA etc. and their methods with which they inject political views, influence gaming media and promoting specific games from people with which they have ties to. Zoe Quinn was just the case where that stuff surfaced.
I would definitely like when more women/girls would play games and I guess almost every gamer does. There is a reason that this was a running gag between gamers back then, because there were almost no girls back then gaming. But I have a problem with those people now jumping the train and calling me a misogynist because I play a game they do not like and that games have to change, they do not want to play games, they want to promote their perspective:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0 (notice the "Hitler Gruß" at 3:35)
The thing is gaming was for a long time a space free of political, moral and ethical questions apart from the occasional upcoming "causing violence" argument. It was a space to fall back to relax, to drop out of the reality.
Now we have a mob dropping on every small detail in a game they do not like, well connected with the media, having the means to get people fired, companies fear this mob and the media power/tools they have.
Is this what you call games growing up?
