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Shadowstalker16: And how exactly does that warrant a ban? If you really think they were expelled for anything other than being GGers, you're kinda deluded. Its in SJW ideology; so its not difficult for people practicing it to understand. Who in their right mind will take and accept an official white collar statement like that? Lets not pretend they were asked to leave for reasons other than GG; because that is the obvious truth.
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Fever_Discordia: GGers and self-confessed 'mens rights activists' i.e. members of 2 different hate groups at once - funny how those 2 things seem to go hand-in-hand when GG is supposed to be about journalistic ethics...
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Shadowstalker16: Is talking about something going to make it happen?
I'm posting about an i5 4960X and an AMD Radeon R9 280. When do I get my free stuff from people who encourage toxic hardware culture?
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Fever_Discordia: I... Wut? Sorry maybe I'm just being think but Wut? Talking about what exactly?
I love how you say mens' rights activists are hate groups and call yourself a person who fights for equality. Anyhow; I don't know what's up with MRAs up there or in the US so why should I care? Anyhow, I don't understand what hate groups have to do with that post. I said nothing remotely relating to MRAs or lacking in journalistic ethics. If someone is kicked out for having a political opinion, that isn't gender s=descrimination; which I guess you thought it was..........?

How is having a shirt that mentions a word going to propagate the meaning of that word?
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Klumpen0815: Always choose getting information first hand if possible:

It's called masculism and is usually seen and slandered the same way as feminism was a long time ago, the post above this one is just one example of many.
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Fever_Discordia: ...for good reason
No, that's simply the radical left propaganda and hatred speaking out of you. It has nothing to do with reality and truth.

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Fever_Discordia: GGers and self-confessed 'mens rights activists' i.e. members of 2 different hate groups at once
*sigh* I really thought you might have learned something in the last weeks but now you're just back in the mindset of the usual hate. :/ Calling "whatever" rights activists a hate group is even more crazy than doing this with GG.
Post edited April 24, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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Fever_Discordia: GGers and self-confessed 'mens rights activists' i.e. members of 2 different hate groups at once - funny how those 2 things seem to go hand-in-hand when GG is supposed to be about journalistic ethics...

I... Wut? Sorry maybe I'm just being think but Wut? Talking about what exactly?
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Shadowstalker16: I love how you say mens' rights activists are hate groups and call yourself a person who fights for equality.
I love the way you imply that anything MRAs have to say is, in any way pro-equality and not about maintaining the current, un-equal status-quo, if not trying to blast gender politics back to the 50s or earlier!
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Shadowstalker16: I love how you say mens' rights activists are hate groups and call yourself a person who fights for equality.
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Fever_Discordia: I love the way you imply that anything MRAs have to say is, in any way pro-equality and not about maintaining the current, un-equal status-quo, if not trying to blast gender politics back to the 50s or earlier!
Prejudice and generalisation muchly?
It's "us or them", right? Sounds exacly like the republican mindset we all know so well.
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Fever_Discordia: ...for good reason
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Klumpen0815: No, that's simply the radical left propaganda and hatred speaking out of you. It has nothing to do with reality and truth.
Meh, 'reality' and 'truth' are both subjective, my reality and truth are no less valid than yours, except, of course, mine is actually MORE valid because you're wrong :P
“We can not solve our problems with the same level of thinking that created them”
- Albert Einstein


...yet this is exactly what people try to do all the time and the reason why most rebels in the end inevitably become just like the totalitarian regime they initially fought against.
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HiPhish: Bannig the HBB was not an act of misogyny, don't inflate the word like feminists do. I know it's funny to reflect their accusation back at them, but HBB were not banned for being women, they were banned for their opinion.
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Fever_Discordia: They were politely asked to leave because a/ they misrepresented who they were apply for a stand for when they applied for a stand and b/ they repeated asked off-topic questions in fan forums and talked over the panel's attempts to answer those questions

http://www.themarysue.com/calgary-expo-gamergate-evicted/
So let's see...you are citing a website written by the people who complained to the convention to get them removed as an unbiased source? There is a video of what actually transpired as opposed to that made-up bullshit narrative.

Furthermore, it appears their credentials match what they claimed.

And funny how you throw out the word hate group so easily...
GGer = hate group.
Men's rights advocates = hate group.
Seriously?

Fever Discordia = clearly a member of a hate group.
Take your SJW hate group outta here. Bigot! Man hater! You gender haters you!

Funny how hating people and SJWs seem to go so well together as well!

As spoken above SJWs just talk out of their ass. Quote their own echo chambers and call it "proof". And anyone who disagrees is a hate group or misogynist or terrorist as bad as ISIS or the KKK. What fucking fruitcakes...
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Fever_Discordia: I love the way you imply that anything MRAs have to say is, in any way pro-equality and not about maintaining the current, un-equal status-quo, if not trying to blast gender politics back to the 50s or earlier!
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Klumpen0815: Prejudice and generalisation muchly?
It's "us or them", right? Sounds exacly like the republican mindset we all know so well.
"Some masculinist movements are explicitly antifeminist.[12] According to Blais and Dupuis-Déri, "the contents of [masculinist] websites and the testimony of feminists that we questioned confirm that masculinists are generally critical of even moderate feminists and feminists at the head of official feminist organizations."[12] Some masculinist activism has involved disruption of events organized by feminists and lawsuits against feminist academics, journalists, or activists.[12] Furthermore, masculinist actions are sometimes extreme; father's rights activists have bombed family courts in Australia and have issued bomb threats in the UK, although it is ambiguous whether there was public and organized militant group involvement.[12] They have also engaged in "tire-slashing, the mailing of excrement-filled packages, threats against politicians and their children."[12] Spokesmen for these groups have also spoken out against public awareness campaigns to prevent sexual assault, arguing that they portray a negative image of men, and one masculinist group harassed administrators of dozens of battered women's shelters and women's centers.[12]"

Yep - sound like a lovely bunch of guys (and honey badgers)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masculism#Criticisms_and_responses
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Fever_Discordia: They were politely asked to leave because a/ they misrepresented who they were apply for a stand for when they applied for a stand and b/ they repeated asked off-topic questions in fan forums and talked over the panel's attempts to answer those questions

http://www.themarysue.com/calgary-expo-gamergate-evicted/
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RWarehall: So let's see...you are citing a website written by the people who complained to the convention to get them removed as an unbiased source? There is a video of what actually transpired as opposed to that made-up bullshit narrative.

Furthermore, it appears their credentials match what they claimed.

And funny how you throw out the word hate group so easily...
GGer = hate group.
Men's rights advocates = hate group.
Seriously?

Fever Discordia = clearly a member of a hate group.
Take your SJW hate group outta here. Bigot! Man hater! You gender haters you!

Funny how hating people and SJWs seem to go so well together as well!

As spoken above SJWs just talk out of their ass. Quote their own echo chambers and call it "proof". And anyone who disagrees is a hate group or misogynist or terrorist as bad as ISIS or the KKK. What fucking fruitcakes...
Errr.. when did I say that I was presenting The Mary Sue as an unbiased source? I intentionally found the most left-biased source I could find to counterbalance all the bloody Brietbart and Reaxxion links you guys throw about!

And I thought hating people went hand-in-hand with being people because people = shit and now I have 'Irresponsible Hate Anthem' by Mazza Manson playing in the head again... \m/
Post edited April 24, 2015 by Fever_Discordia
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Klumpen0815: Prejudice and generalisation muchly?
It's "us or them", right? Sounds exacly like the republican mindset we all know so well.
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Fever_Discordia: "Some masculinist movements are explicitly antifeminist.[12] According to Blais and Dupuis-Déri, "the contents of [masculinist] websites and the testimony of feminists that we questioned confirm that masculinists are generally critical of even moderate feminists and feminists at the head of official feminist organizations."[12] Some masculinist activism has involved disruption of events organized by feminists and lawsuits against feminist academics, journalists, or activists.[12] Furthermore, masculinist actions are sometimes extreme; father's rights activists have bombed family courts in Australia and have issued bomb threats in the UK, although it is ambiguous whether there was public and organized militant group involvement.[12] They have also engaged in "tire-slashing, the mailing of excrement-filled packages, threats against politicians and their children."[12] Spokesmen for these groups have also spoken out against public awareness campaigns to prevent sexual assault, arguing that they portray a negative image of men, and one masculinist group harassed administrators of dozens of battered women's shelters and women's centers.[12]"

Yep - sound like a lovely bunch of guys (and honey badgers)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masculism#Criticisms_and_responses
Using Wikipedia as proof. :D
Anyway, just looking at the section above I found this fitting phrase:

"Masculists who promote gender equality are often considered male feminists.[19]"
Hate groups desperately need their "concept of the enemy" and if it doesn't fit reality, there have to be made some crazy redefinitions just like calling actual masculists "male feminists", lol.
We have to keep the connotation of masculism negative and the connotation of feminism positive at all costs!
War with words... no discussions.

Claiming that everybody who calls himself a feminist is standing for gender equality and that everybody who calls himself a masculist is standing for conservative patriarchy or is a feminist with an identity crisis is so nuts.

We don't even need such terms with this mindset, call one team "red" and the other "blue", that's all there is for them.
Post edited April 24, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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Fever_Discordia: snip
This sure sounds unbiased...

BLAIS, Melissa, and Francis Dupuis-Deri (2008), The masculinist movement in Quebec, the anti-feminist unmasked, bustle Editions, Montreal, 257 pages

As I said, cite feminists to support your arguments...biased much?

Not to mention how that very paragraph cherry-picks to hell...
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Fever_Discordia: Yep - sound like a lovely bunch of guys (and honey badgers)
And a feminist tried to murder Andy Warhol. I guess that makes feminists a hate group, too.

Of course that would also be a stupid thing to believe. If a handful of nutjobs went out and slashed tires in the name of this forum, wouldn't it be a little unreasonable to hold everyone here responsible for that? This "hate group" nonsense is just a lazy way of dismissing a viewpoint outright without having to bother justifying why.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-ZX5V4Qft4

Trigger warning: truth and common sense
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MrLongPants: THIS IS WHY I NEED MENINISM!!!
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Klumpen0815: It's called masculism and is usually seen and slandered the same way as feminism was a long time ago, the post above this one is just one example of many.
Was joking. Meninism is just satire. Not the "satire" that feminism has turned into with the third wave though. Just got through seeing a bunch of idiots elsewhere saying that people disagreeing with them was the reason they needed feminism.

Anyway where did this "were politely asked to leave" shit come from? They were booted from the convention then had cops called on them the next day when they dared meet up in a nearby park. Prove otherwise. Go on. Provide any proof that that they misrepresented themselves or were being disruptive.

Maybe people would see things clearer if they stopped using themarysue and wikipedia as sources. This brings me to my next point. It's 2015, for the love of GOD why are people linking to themarysue and wikipedia as actual sources!?

I have to laugh at that "male feminists" quote however. Why is it feminists can't understand they don't have a monopoly on equality?

Hey soul sister, you think men and women should be paid the same? Then you're a female-MRA.

See how retarded that sounds?
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Klumpen0815: It's called masculism and is usually seen and slandered the same way as feminism was a long time ago, the post above this one is just one example of many.
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MrLongPants: Was joking. Meninism is just satire. Not the "satire" that feminism has turned into with the third wave though. Just got through seeing a bunch of idiots elsewhere saying that people disagreeing with them was the reason they needed feminism.

Anyway where did this "were politely asked to leave" shit come from? They were booted from the convention then had cops called on them the next day when they dared meet up in a nearby park. Prove otherwise. Go on. Provide any proof that that they misrepresented themselves or were being disruptive.

Maybe people would see things clearer if they stopped using themarysue and wikipedia as sources. This brings me to my next point. It's 2015, for the love of GOD why are people linking to themarysue and wikipedia as actual sources!?
Again.. In response to people using Breitbart, Reaxxion and now Sargon of Akkad as 'actual sources'
Or are you seriously going to argue that any of those aren't just as biased the other way?
Besides, Wikipedia, by its very definition is based on a global consensus of opinion, surely...
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MrLongPants: Was joking. Meninism is just satire. Not the "satire" that feminism has turned into with the third wave though. Just got through seeing a bunch of idiots elsewhere saying that people disagreeing with them was the reason they needed feminism.

Anyway where did this "were politely asked to leave" shit come from? They were booted from the convention then had cops called on them the next day when they dared meet up in a nearby park. Prove otherwise. Go on. Provide any proof that that they misrepresented themselves or were being disruptive.

Maybe people would see things clearer if they stopped using themarysue and wikipedia as sources. This brings me to my next point. It's 2015, for the love of GOD why are people linking to themarysue and wikipedia as actual sources!?
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Fever_Discordia: Again.. In response to people using Breitbart, Reaxxion and now Sargon of Akkad as 'actual sources'
Or are you seriously going to argue that any of those aren't just as biased the other way?
Besides, Wikipedia, by its very definition is based on a global consensus of opinion, surely...
They have proof. You don't. Proof is unbiased. Proof exists. Proof doesn't get done. Proof does people. Saragon can say 2+2=4 and you can't do shit about it. Why the asking? You mad you don't have proof?