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granny: On the Honey Badger issue, this seems relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymkIiGRvtBg
The relevant part starts at 18.30.

Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFdTVMiD0UI

Could someone remind me again how it's GamerGate driving women out of games, comics, and conventions? I keep forgetting...
Haha, do you hear the 15 Honey Badgers screaming and shouting down the panelists in the name of GG!!!

Seriously they asked some questions, then other people in the audience picked the points up to ask further questions.

The panelists if they felt the questions disruptive could have asked to delay them to the end of the panel.

The panelists saw their points they wanted to paint being challenged, they could not disprove what was being asked, so they silenced the opposing opinions with harassment by GG argument. If what Alison asked is called interrupting and shutting down a discussion, well than in the near future we will have no discussions anymore. Any opposing opinion to something will be called harassment. when you express it.

But be happy you will get the hour of hate everyday to make up for it.

I wish Alison all the best, she seems very upset /sad in the 2nd video.
Post edited April 19, 2015 by MaGo72
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MaGo72:
"can i answer?"
"sure go ahead"
"well i..."
"OMG SEE HOW SHE INTERRUPTED ME AND SUCH HATE SPEECH PLS BAN RITO"
Guys come on now we're getting angry about women being kicked out of gaming conventions for life.

We are so so so so so bad at the whole misogyny thing :(
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granny: On the Honey Badger issue, this seems relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymkIiGRvtBg
The relevant part starts at 18.30.

Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFdTVMiD0UI

Could someone remind me again how it's GamerGate driving women out of games, comics, and conventions? I keep forgetting...
Thanks for delivering some source, the thread was lacking this since the topic HBB came up.

I'm seriously shocked how anybody can claim this as "disruptive" and use it as a reason to throw someone out, this totalitarianism has to stop for the sake of everybody.
If this trend goes on, there won't be any discussions anymore.

There's so much hate for diversity (especcially regarding opinions) in neo-feminist circles. :/
I don't see them doing this for the love of anything, it's just the usual dark side: control and power through hatred, anger, uniformity and intolerance.
Post edited April 19, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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MrLongPants: Guys come on now we're getting angry about women being kicked out of gaming conventions for life.

We are so so so so so bad at the whole misogyny thing :(
Wait they are banned for life? For that?!

Guess they are teaching us all a lesson in misogyny since we've been doing such a poor job of it.
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MrLongPants: Guys come on now we're getting angry about women being kicked out of gaming conventions for life.

We are so so so so so bad at the whole misogyny thing :(
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ScotchMonkey: Wait they are banned for life? For that?!

Guess they are teaching us all a lesson in misogyny since we've been doing such a poor job of it.
Not all of them were banned. They banned only the comic artist, Alison, for life from all conventions hosted by them.
The rest was just kicked out with her.

In short:
She stated the opinion write the comics you want to see yourself, do not try to change and dictate what do you want to see. A woman is not a victim, a woman is powerful and can do things herself. Did not go down well with the feminists there in the panel it seems and was considered harassment..

Well being a founding member of HBB and going along with GG may have supported the decision.
Post edited April 19, 2015 by MaGo72
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ScotchMonkey: Wait they are banned for life? For that?!

Guess they are teaching us all a lesson in misogyny since we've been doing such a poor job of it.
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MaGo72: Not all of them were banned. They banned only the comic artist, Alison, for life from all conventions hosted by them.
The rest was just kicked out with her.

In short:
She stated the opinion write the comics you want to see yourself, do not try to change and dictate what do you want to see. A woman is not a victim, a woman is powerful and can do things herself. Did not go down well with the feminists there in the panel it seems and was considered harassment..

Well being a founding member of HBB and going along with GG may have supported the decision.
I have little familiarity with HBB. Not sure what they stand for. I do know they support GG or at least some efforts by the looks of things.

Having looked at the incident and the audio I don't really see why she was banned. I need to see what the convention rules are for vendors, maybe that had something to do with it?

From the outset though (I say this as I have not yet read through everything, my opinion may change) it really does seem like a "Go home gamer girl" from rad fems.
Here is a video from Alison of the Honey Badger Brigade. You know the member of the "hate group"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guFXhjHaCYs&ab_channel=HoneyBadgerRadio

Notice how she doesn't ask for retribution or society to change. In fact she actively dissuades people from retribution. She only asks people to support a vendor that was supportive to her.

This is just so screwed up. Dissent or differences of opinion shouldn't be treated this harshly. Go home gamer girl indeed.

Brietbart has an article on the situation and the comic at the top is just so perfect.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/04/19/calgary-expo-faces-consumer-backlash-after-expelling-female-critics-of-feminism/
Post edited April 20, 2015 by walpurgis8199
Anyone staying with antiGG after this must have serious lack of sensory functions and a really bad case of superiority complex driven by desire to dominate others.
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Girls crash party, adults ask them to go, girls start crying, the end.
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Vainamoinen: Girls crash party, adults ask them to go, girls start crying, the end.
I'm not sure "crashing" a party includes asking politely if they can respond during a panel, of which they were given permission to do so. Maybe the better statement to make is:

"Vainamoinen makes claims, Vainamoinen ignores rebuttals, Vainamoinen continues to make random claims."
Post edited April 20, 2015 by Kurina
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Vainamoinen: Girls crash party, adults ask them to go, girls start crying, the end.
Boy your brains sure work in an interesting way. It seems basic reading skills are too much to ask for in a poster these days.
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Vainamoinen: Girls crash party, adults ask them to go, girls start crying, the end.
girls pay for booth with money using their HBB tag,girls set up booth with posters of "censorship is bad", girls ask turn to speak during panel, defend their viewpoint politely (no treats, no interrupting, no shouting).

girls get kicked out, banned for life, no refund (probably sue able), get cops called on them for still doing their meet and greet in a public park.


if expressing your opinion which does not align with SJW ideas = harassment and endangering people, you are trivializing harassment and supporting censor and fighting against free speech. Also funny how its the antis that have done the "GO HOME GAMER GIRL" and not gamergate.

women kicked out of expos
gg: 0
antigg: 3



if this had not happened to the HBB but to ANYONE who is even slightly anti you'd be calling it proof of the worst women hating racist group in the history of mankind.
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Vainamoinen: Girls crash party, adults ask them to go, girls start crying, the end.
Wow, someone anti-gg making a misogynistic statement. Why am I not surprised. You guys are far more effective at spreading hate against women than Gamergate ever was.
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Vainamoinen: Girls crash party, adults ask them to go, girls start crying, the end.
You know, for someone who claims to stand for equality and all these positive things, all I see from every post you've ever posted, is the worst toxic, viperlike, cancerous personality I've ever witnessed. It's ironic that you're calling a bunch of gamers and women a hate group, but the only hatred I see from both sides seems to be coming from yours. That's not how you win friends, pal. That's how you get people to dismiss YOU as the hate group, because all you do is make unfounded claims, baseless insults and throw weak jabs at strawmen.

You're like a cartoon caricature facist, desperately trying to paint narratives about one of the most inclusive cultures ever, but the only thing that you've succeeded in doing, is making it LESS inclusive. I was playing Payday 2 just the other day, and a girl happened to join our team, and the two other guys respectfully asked her to leave, because they didn't feel comfortable playing with someone who could potentially slap abuse cases on them. They were polite about it, I'll give them that, but we knew nothing about that poor girl. She could have been really skilled and been a major help, but that didn't matter, because of the piss poor narrative you people have painted for normal gamers like me.

This isn't even an isolated occurence. I read that a woman gamer was asked to leave a DBZ game as well, for essentially the same reasons. So instead of making a "safe space" for women, what you're doing is making a clear division for people who never had a problem with it prior. I'm sick to death of people like you, peddling hatred in guise of progress, division in place of unity, and segregation instead of free congress with like minded people, regardless of background or ethnicity. If ANYONE is full of hate. It's not GG or normal gamers. It's you.