It is wrong to say all of the Islam are fanatic mass murderers because of al qaeda and IS, because we can all agree those are just insane deranged sociopaths.
Yet we should make the link if it was with masculinity? In that case making the link is a normal and good thing right? And when some in gg send threats, THEN we can say that is the whole of gg.

Sometimes I think ISIS and Al Quada ARE just MRA and Incel nuts running amok in the NAME of Islam!
I mean they're certainly not very moderate on the whole 'gender politics' thing themselves...

*haemorrhages rep*

Well y'know, it takes two to tango ;)

Radfems and rad-MRA are in the same sinking genderwar-boat. And... even if it is humorous, I find that directly comparing murderers from terrorists organisations to MRA or whatever is just... a bit off track.

OK NOW THAT IS DOWNRIGHT INSANE

So all they do, all those murders, dragging the entire region into war, killing hundreds at a time, all for male dominance?

WTF

so because they have male dominance AMONG 10000 OTHER THINGS as goal, thats what it is all about? not territory, power, religious zealotry, not killing FILTHY WESTERN IMPERIALIST DOGS, YOU FUCKING HEATHEN, not money
all their bloodshed and terrorism, was for male dominance?

THE ACTUAL FUCK

you know, they are not fighting for male dominance BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT. In the IS ranks, women mean shit. They do not need to secure something they have.

What they want, is the entire western culture to die, and yes equality is one of those western imperialist things, but faaaaaaaaaar from the only thing.

It is clear to me that they just despise anything of modern culture.

they are pissing off the whole world at once. They are deranged nutjobs who have enough charisma to make weak minded people believe they have the answer. Notice how their leaders are not the ones blowing themselves up. They are insane, and make morons believe that if they die for them they'll get some good shit in the afterlife (even though they'll arrive in powder form).

seriously, its not MRA in the name of their god
its a combination of geo-politics, religious-cultural conservatism and EXTREME racism towards anyone not muslim.

and thanks to those fucking crackhead morons, muslims everywhere face massive prejudice.
I feel its about as off track as a Japanese bullet train in the Mediterranean sea

Desensitized much?

Meh, maybe but I think this guy:

"What happened is punishment for evil and violence of feminists and liberals. Any of you supporting atrocities like women’s suffrage, immodest clothing, child support/alimony, no ban on adultery, ban on prostitution and a lack of female premarital chastity, all the things that drove this young man to be unable to find a girlfriend, are disgusting , horrible people and you created a culture where this is possible."

would find life in the Caliphate to be his vision of 'ideal'

I eagerly await to see Justin's counter attacks against his Roasters. Either he has clever jokes or he is weak.

again, one of many upon many aspects.
religious extremes have hoardes of rules and standards. and its not because a single one is there, that single one is the only one, the main goal.
Else i could say all their terrorism is for the sole purpose of banning wine and pork.

(you are one of the anti i respect fever. in earlier posts you did not agree with all the generalizations and fear mongering. pls don't change that)

Nah, that's too extreme.

He's on par with religious fundamentalists, racialist theorists or crazy ideologues who crave for creating a Grand Great Evil responsible for all the wrongness in humanity's history.

But terrorists organizations ? That's a big step further.

What exactly does that say? Its obviously radical' but what point does it raise?

Let's just say this. I see both Fever's and Vain's true colours from the last few posts.

For the record, and I'm not surprised Vain can't understand the nuance or how stupid his post sounds, but Elizabeth Fogarty pointed out that there was a single doxxer and not the SJW movement as a whole. And I agree, that person and those who chose to retweet it are the criminals. I would hope that others would condemn such behavior. The same way GG condemns doxxing and harassment. There is nothing inconsistent with this and standard Gamergate philosophy.

It was a first hand testimonial by a woman of all people on Reaxxion? But you just want to dismiss her as a MRA? All those links are thoughtful articles and contain interesting perspective. I encourage thoughtful minds to read them and make their own judgments. Some people like Vain, have already decided who's right and wrong before reading anything and just want to poke holes in things. Thoughtful individuals will see some truth.

I guess Fever doesn't get it either, because apparently one crazy man who shoots people because he blames feminists apparently means to her that all those who dislike the actions of feminists must be crazy shooters. You continue to paint all people in broad strokes. One shooter means all MRAs are serial killers? You are just outright nuts. This is a serious problem for you and its why no one really takes either of you seriously.

For me, I try to be a man of the truth, where ever it lays. I generally side with most issues with views similar to Gamergate because that is where I find the truth. There are bad actors on both sides but they are a minority. To condemn thousands of people for the wrongs of a few is just stupid. Yet, all I see from the neo-feminists is just this, repeated over and over again. Those who do are just zealots. Thoughtless fools.

The same with most of the "misogynistic" complaints about video games. Back to GTA V, since every NPC can be killed for cash, that isn't hatred toward women, has nothing to do with them at all, its a feature of the game world. The only thing different about women and men in the game is that prostitutes can allow one to regain health. I cannot see how a game which implies that some women having such healing powers is a demonstration of hatred to all women. But by twisting logic around and enveloping it in emotional arguments, certain people have managed to greatly distort what that game represents. And in doing so, claim that is standard for women's studies...

See, I hear a lot of this 'paints everyone with the same brush' cry from the GG side and I always think "Hmm I'm sure that's not what they meant, really, but then maybe I'm just biased"
But this time it was me saying it and I know what I meant and I didn't mean that all MRAs were potential mass shooters (any more than anyone else) or people who might club together to form some kind of ISIS-like terror group

I meant that life in the ISIS Caliphate, as it relates to women and gender politics (or how I envisage it working if allowed to settle into something resembling normality, one they've beheaded everyone they don't like the look of) bears a striking resemblance to what you'd imagine the 'Incel' blogger who defended Elliot Rodger's actions and blamed society would envisage to be a 'just' society

I'm saying that the 'Incel' extremist vision of the society they want to live in looks similar to the Islamist extremist's and that, yes, extreme misogyny and male dominance are a big part of the Islamist extremist's mindset, the only difference is that they tell themselves they're doing it in the name of a religion, a God but that may be just a way to justify their actions to themselves and others.

And yes, there's other things on the agenda too - power, money, land, hating the Jews - the usual

I'm not saying that every MRA supporter or even 'Incel' nut is that extreme, in the same was that I don't expect anyone to think that I even agree with every word Anita Sarkessian has ever said on camera, let alone anyone truly extreme on the feminist side
(For the record, out of the videos of her's I've seen I give a thumbs up to 'Dead Girl In the Fridge' (which she didn't come up with herself, she freely admits) and a thumbs down to 'Alien Birth' for a number of reasons)

BTW, just to be clear, I'd a dude, a white dude, just like Tim Schafer, it might be better for my position if I was a big black diesel dyke but.. I'm not

You are the one claiming first-hand accounts of Elizabeth Fogerty aren't "objective facts" and comparing MRAs to ISIS and Al-Qaeda and serial killers while proclaiming women's rights advocates in the form of SJWs as mostly right.

As I said before, it is wrong to shoot the messenger without addressing the message, yet it seems your best arguments are to paint anything said by anyone you oppose in one broad stroke. Don't address them, just compare them to MRA's rapists, serial killers, etc. Ball them up in one big ball and call it misogyny.

Frankly, this whole serial killer issue is completely off-topic, so is ISIS and Islam. You only bring it up to confuse and distract from the real issues just like many other anti-GG brethren. Of course the reason you do is because most of your arguments have no leg to stand upon, so distraction is the only answer that works for you.