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RWarehall: And @htown, you should be careful of labels, because unless you are in your mid-60's, I'm no "kid" to you...
You're still a kid to me, kiddo. :)
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Narakir: And that's my random rant : You know what, what is really shitty ? I have yet to see anyone really doing a good counter analysis to the "works" of Miss Saark, you know just something polite and unemotional that deconstruct her analysis, proving point by point how ludicrous the way she decided to analyse games like if they where movies and that the people in her bandwagon are just filled with the same insanity that brought us things like The Order 1886 or David Cage's pretentious blurbs. I guess the opportunity for a calm discussion that'll leave her and her incompetence on the side way with a sad smile (Calm down SWJs' I wasn't suggesting any violence beyond the simple rhetorical joust). But everything is lost in the oblivion of controversy and counter-controversy now and for a few good years in the future. She's impossible to attack now, she's become such a sacred figure that the only best thing to do is just completely ignore her, and seeing a few people in the academia, and fortunately not that many, treating her as a reference makes me feel bad.
someone who does VERY good countering of her is ... a feminist
based mom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RVlCvBd21w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MxqSwzFy5w

also, Tim Schafed fucked up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEDCcdjgMNs
Post edited March 06, 2015 by dragonbeast
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Narakir: And that's my random rant : You know what, what is really shitty ? I have yet to see anyone really doing a good counter analysis to the "works" of Miss Saark, you know just something polite and unemotional that deconstruct her analysis, proving point by point how ludicrous the way she decided to analyse games like if they where movies and that the people in her bandwagon are just filled with the same insanity that brought us things like The Order 1886 or David Cage's pretentious blurbs. I guess the opportunity for a calm discussion that'll leave her and her incompetence on the side way with a sad smile (Calm down SWJs' I wasn't suggesting any violence beyond the simple rhetorical joust). But everything is lost in the oblivion of controversy and counter-controversy now and for a few good years in the future. She's impossible to attack now, she's become such a sacred figure that the only best thing to do is just completely ignore her, and seeing a few people in the academia, and fortunately not that many, treating her as a reference makes me feel bad.
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dragonbeast: someone who does VERY good countering of her is ... a feminist
based mom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RVlCvBd21w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MxqSwzFy5w
I really like this woman, she is calm, logical, does her homework in research and stays away from any fear- and hatemongering. In fact, most (if not all!) of the rabid anti-gaming/gamergate feminists are quite young and lack a certain degree of... maturity.

Thank you, mom!
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dragonbeast: someone who does VERY good countering of her is ... a feminist
based mom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RVlCvBd21w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MxqSwzFy5w
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Klumpen0815: I really like this woman, she is calm, logical, does her homework in research and stays away from any fear- and hatemongering. In fact, most (if not all!) of the rabid anti-gaming/gamergate feminists are quite young and lack a certain degree of... maturity.

Thank you, mom!
I like her aswell

"calm, logical, does her homework in research and stays away from any fear- and hatemongering."

Is it any wonder why some feminists don't consider her to be one?
Guess what's N°1 in the hot new releases category of "game programming" books on Amazon.....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/new-releases/books/15375251/ref=zg_b_hnr_15375251_1
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catpower1980: Guess what's N°1 in the hot new releases category of "game programming" books on Amazon.....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/new-releases/books/15375251/ref=zg_b_hnr_15375251_1
That's what ''academics'' do. They should really try to reach out to a bigger audience; because not even non-#ggers want to read from their sites anymore.
Post edited March 06, 2015 by Shadowstalker16
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catpower1980: Guess what's N°1 in the hot new releases category of "game programming" books on Amazon.....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/new-releases/books/15375251/ref=zg_b_hnr_15375251_1
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Shadowstalker16: That's what ''academics'' do. They should really try to reach out to a bigger audience; because even non-#ggers want to read from their sites anymore.
Slightly off-topic but I've always been wondering what their stance would be at Tollywood/Bollywood flicks as it's supposedly inherently "diverse" but über-macho at the same time (Dabbang, NTR Jr movies,etc.)
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Shadowstalker16: That's what ''academics'' do. They should really try to reach out to a bigger audience; because even non-#ggers want to read from their sites anymore.
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catpower1980: Slightly off-topic but I've always been wondering what their stance would be at Tollywood/Bollywood flicks as it's supposedly inherently "diverse" but über-macho at the same time (Dabbang, NTR Jr movies,etc.)
Indeed. But diversity in there isn't a choice in films here. I mean; you can't even tell races apart most of the time in India unless you're in the very northeastern areas. Even then; its not an ''oppression'' problem.Sarkeesian seems kinda prejudiced against non-English speaking cultures. Like allegedy saying the US ''bombed the Japanese back into traditional values''.
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dragonbeast: also, Tim Schafed fucked up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEDCcdjgMNs
The memes are already starting (pic attached)
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Seriously, do read that reaxxion article. No, please do, you may click on that link, honestly.

It tells us in minute detail how the protagonist and hero of the entire story, Daryush Valizadeh, was unfairly attacked and His glorious virility questioned by a random incoherent bum with delusions of making it in the movie business. Not only Daryush's willing women quota was challenged, no, the confused bum has in fact spread the vicious lie that the godfather of pickup had not scored in Denmark, like, AT ALL. Can y'all believe that? I'm not lying to you.

Previously, Daryush (manhood 59cm/3.1 kilo/8.2 times per hour) had published a satirical satire article on His blog, containing extreme amounts of completely satirical satire in a satirical way by satirically suggesting the legalisation of rape, but seriously only in the private home, and that article bore no resemblance to Daryush's previous philantropist/educational travelogues (and Jonathan Swift something). And drunk Bum thought sex god Daryush, smirking under His playfully unkempt beard, really meant all that stuff! Depressed Bum, probably impotent, made a confused, rambling heretic video about the lord saviour, painful 5,063 seconds long, so much worse than his usual confused, rambling videos!

Reaxxion ethics officer Sam Roberts (who, as a manly man, absolutely doesn't sleep with the beautiful seductive Daryush) delves into just appraisal of his patron, lauding His willingness and great sacrifice to leave His promising professional career behind to explore the art of picking up women and to in fact illuminate other, so much less manly men about His enlightened and extremely successful ways, mostly free of charge. For a man like Roberts, there is no shame in continuously praising the uncontested virility of another man, at least not Daryush (or "Roosh V." for his closest friends).

He could have brought even disgusting Bum into the light of sexual bliss, but Bum outright rejected his own salvation.
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Vainamoinen: Seriously, do read that reaxxion article. No, please do, you may click on that link, honestly.

It tells us in minute detail how the protagonist and hero of the entire story, Daryush Valizadeh, was unfairly attacked and His glorious virility questioned by a random incoherent bum with delusions of making it in the movie business. Not only Daryush's willing women quota was challenged, no, the confused bum has in fact spread the vicious lie that the godfather of pickup had not scored in Denmark, like, AT ALL. Can y'all believe that? I'm not lying to you.

Previously, Daryush (manhood 59cm/3.1 kilo/8.2 times per hour) had published a satirical satire article on His blog, containing extreme amounts of completely satirical satire in a satirical way by satirically suggesting the legalisation of rape, but seriously only in the private home, and that article bore no resemblance to Daryush's previous philantropist/educational travelogues (and Jonathan Swift something). And drunk Bum thought sex god Daryush, smirking under His playfully unkempt beard, really meant all that stuff! Depressed Bum, probably impotent, made a confused, rambling heretic video about the lord saviour, painful 5,063 seconds long, so much worse than his usual confused, rambling videos!

Reaxxion ethics officer Sam Roberts (who, as a manly man, absolutely doesn't sleep with the beautiful seductive Daryush) delves into just appraisal of his patron, lauding His willingness and great sacrifice to leave His promising professional career behind to explore the art of picking up women and to in fact illuminate other, so much less manly men about His enlightened and extremely successful ways, mostly free of charge. For a man like Roberts, there is no shame in continuously praising the uncontested virility of another man, at least not Daryush (or "Roosh V." for his closest friends).

He could have brought even disgusting Bum into the light of sexual bliss, but Bum outright rejected his own salvation.
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Vainamoinen: Seriously, do read that reaxxion article. No, please do, you may click on that link, honestly.

It tells us in minute detail how the protagonist and hero of the entire story, Daryush Valizadeh, was unfairly attacked and His glorious virility questioned by a random incoherent bum with delusions of making it in the movie business. Not only Daryush's willing women quota was challenged, no, the confused bum has in fact spread the vicious lie that the godfather of pickup had not scored in Denmark, like, AT ALL. Can y'all believe that? I'm not lying to you.

Previously, Daryush (manhood 59cm/3.1 kilo/8.2 times per hour) had published a satirical satire article on His blog, containing extreme amounts of completely satirical satire in a satirical way by satirically suggesting the legalisation of rape, but seriously only in the private home, and that article bore no resemblance to Daryush's previous philantropist/educational travelogues (and Jonathan Swift something). And drunk Bum thought sex god Daryush, smirking under His playfully unkempt beard, really meant all that stuff! Depressed Bum, probably impotent, made a confused, rambling heretic video about the lord saviour, painful 5,063 seconds long, so much worse than his usual confused, rambling videos!

Reaxxion ethics officer Sam Roberts (who, as a manly man, absolutely doesn't sleep with the beautiful seductive Daryush) delves into just appraisal of his patron, lauding His willingness and great sacrifice to leave His promising professional career behind to explore the art of picking up women and to in fact illuminate other, so much less manly men about His enlightened and extremely successful ways, mostly free of charge. For a man like Roberts, there is no shame in continuously praising the uncontested virility of another man, at least not Daryush (or "Roosh V." for his closest friends).

He could have brought even disgusting Bum into the light of sexual bliss, but Bum outright rejected his own salvation.
First, seriously what does this have to do with GG?

Second, could you perhaps get a mirror to talk to or a notebook where you write your stuff down to make an echo chamber for your opinion?

Third, I do not know this guy, I do not care what he thinks or who he is. He can do what he wants to do as long as he does not break the law or harm anybody.
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MaGo72: First, seriously what does this have to do with GG?

Second, could you perhaps get a mirror to talk to or a notebook where you write your stuff down to make an echo chamber for your opinion?

Third, I do not know this guy, I do not care what he thinks or who he is. He can have his opinion as long as he does not break the law or harm anybody.
I can't be entirely certain but I think the Reaxxion article in question might be the one I refered to in this post

Some sad news from the good people at the "Sarkeesian Effect". Jordan Owen and Davis Aurini will be working seperately. It seems Jordan Owen is having personal difficulties and the poor man has suffered a "breakdown". I place this in quotation marks as it is not entirely clear from this Reaxxion article or Davis Aurinis commentary on his blog what has happened to him. (Note that Aurini has handled this sad turn of events like a consumate professional and has done all anyone might do for someone in a condition such as is Jordan.) Last week Jordan put out a rather stressful vlog criticizing Roosh's (somewhat tasteless) "legalize rape" satire and this appears to have acted as a catalyst for other underlying issues he may have. Whatever the case may be, he is clearly a human being who is suffering quite badly and is deserving of our sympathy.

From a personal perspective, this is precisely why I tend to stear clear of comments on Zoe Quin and Brianna Wu. (Apart from the old gag "Why are they so like Dick Cheney?" Answer: "Cause they just don't know when to go away." ) Their own personal difficulties just seem a bit too close to the surface and it seems wrong to take cheap shots at the vulnerable.

That is why I am sure good people on both sides of the pro and anti-gaming debate will treat Jordan and the issues involving him, with the respect, kindness and consideration that he or anyone deserves in these circumstances.

Really. When you think about it you realize that only the most vile, loathsome and dispicable low-life trash would score cheap thrills from kicking another human being when they are down ...

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Vainamoinen: Speaking of Hollywood: Hilarious developments at the not particularly bustling set of the "Sarkeesian Effect" documentary! It's a bit like the Backstreet Boys breakup, only with more shit flinging and considerably less tasty butts.
Hey, I just call 'em as I see 'em!

Peace and Love, brothers & sisters.
Post edited March 06, 2015 by noncompliantgame
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dragonbeast: also, Tim Schafed fucked up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEDCcdjgMNs
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catpower1980: The memes are already starting (pic attached)
that burn is real
Ticked off forever. The guy who leeched money off of gamers now insults his audience. Maybe the sock was a minority and Tim was giving it a voice because he's the member of the superior race that treats everyone ''equally''?