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Posted December 21, 2020
The whole Devotion thing is really blown out of proportions. I think it has zero effect to GOG's or CDP/CDPR's success and profitability, and for all I know, it actually increases them tenfold if GOG just became the to-go gaming store for all the billions or so patriotic Chinese. That theory has just as much, if not even more, merit than claiming the Devotion debacle affects GOG's success much at all. Frankly, I claim most gamers are not even aware of the debacle, and of those who are, 96% don't really care about it much, at least when deciding from where to buy their games (or not).

However, if Cyberpunk 2077 really bombed and flushed CDPR through the toilet, then yes I think that could and would affect GOG too, because CDPR would hurt their parent company. However, I am not convinced yet CDPR is in some kind of long-term trouble. A lot depends how well they are able to fix problems in the game, and at least they seem to be actively doing just that. No idea how big portion of pre-orderers and people who have bough the game are demanding refunds anyway. 50%? 30%? 2%?
Posted December 21, 2020
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Buried In Time: 3126 with a heaping helping of bonus goodies. Some of those are demos, but I reckon that's a lot of terabytes.
holy frijoles!! i thought i was buried in games.
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timppu: Well, the very reason I prefer buying games DRM-free is that when the store is no more, I can still keep and play all my games. That is the main reason GOG.com is my favored store, still.

So no, I didn't hesitate buying around 150€ worth of games on this Winter Sale so far, as I know I can download and keep them even if GOG disappears some day.

I've never kept any fallacies that GOG.com, or any digital game store, will be around forever. Not even Steam. Digital stores come and go, some last longer (Steam, and also GOG), some not (Desura, DotEmu etc.). Heck even Microsoft closed its e-book store years ago, if I remember correctly.

So, yeah, DRM-free, baby! (And when I say "baby", I don't mean, like, an actual infant, but I mean it like the way black people use it. Which is more meaningful I think.)
i always make sure it means something when i say baby, baby! :D
Post edited December 21, 2020 by fortune_p_dawg
Posted December 21, 2020
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Buried In Time: 3126 with a heaping helping of bonus goodies. Some of those are demos, but I reckon that's a lot of terabytes.
I am at 2052 GOG games now, and the English Windows installers take over 5 terabytes for me at the moment I think. So I guess you might need to aim for 8TB or more space, if you wanted to keep all your installers. And even more if you want also several language versions, Linux/Mac versions where applicable etc. (gogrepo.py tool can tell you exactly how big your collection is, in gigabytes)

However as phaolo pointed out, I currently keep only one local backup for them, as I still have the ability to redownload them from GOG servers, if needed.

As for my DotEmu and Strategy First games, those I do keep on two separate hard drives, as I don't have the ability to redownload them from the now-defunct stores anymore. However, I have far less games from those two stores than from GOG. But yeah, if it seemed I'd possibly lose the option to redownload my games from GOG servers, I would most probably start keeping my GOG game installers mirrored (unless I didn't care for my GOG games anymore, for some reason).

Note though that you don't have to keep your installers on single hard drives. For instance, I've divided my GOG game installers to 5TB and 2TB hard drives at the moment.

So, yeah, DRM-free, baby! (And when I say "baby", I don't mean, like, an actual infant, but I mean it like the way black people use it. Which is more meaningful I think.)
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fortune_p_dawg: i always make sure it means something when i say baby, baby! :D
Just to clarify, I was trying to quote one of my favorite movies ever, Zoolander.
Post edited December 21, 2020 by timppu
Posted December 21, 2020
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Buried In Time: 3126 with a heaping helping of bonus goodies. Some of those are demos, but I reckon that's a lot of terabytes.
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timppu: I am at 2052 GOG games now, and the English Windows installers take over 5 terabytes for me at the moment I think. So I guess you might need to aim for 8TB or more space, if you wanted to keep all your installers. And even more if you want also several language versions, Linux/Mac versions where applicable etc. (gogrepo.py tool can tell you exactly how big your collection is, in gigabytes)

However as phaolo pointed out, I currently keep only one local backup for them, as I still have the ability to redownload them from GOG servers, if needed.

As for my DotEmu and Strategy First games, those I do keep on two separate hard drives, as I don't have the ability to redownload them from the now-defunct stores anymore. However, I have far less games from those two stores than from GOG. But yeah, if it seemed I'd possibly lose the option to redownload my games from GOG servers, I would most probably start keeping my GOG game installers mirrored (unless I didn't care for my GOG games anymore, for some reason).

Note though that you don't have to keep your installers on single hard drives. For instance, I've divided my GOG game installers to 5TB and 2TB hard drives at the moment.
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fortune_p_dawg: i always make sure it means something when i say baby, baby! :D
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timppu: Just to clarify, I was trying to quote one of my favorite movies ever, Zoolander.
i saw that once. i remember getting a good laugh tho i'm more of a heavyweights/ something about mary, ben stiller kind of guy myself.
Posted December 21, 2020
I'm eyeing this 14TB hard drive on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KPL474H/
Post edited December 21, 2020 by Buried In Time
Posted December 21, 2020
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Buried In Time: I'm eyeing this 14TB hard drive on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KPL474H/
Some hours ago I bought a 14TB Ultrastar hard disk on Amazon, it will only be inside a Western Digital Elements Desktop Hard Drive 14TB.

You have to be careful which ones you buy. I did some digging before I bought the Elements. First I did want to buy the Western Digital MyBook with one bay. It seems the Ultrastar disks inside run quite hot under load, concerningly hot - there are some Reddit threads about the disks that are used in the Western Digital desktop hard drives.

So I would check the identifier of the hard disk you want to buy before going for it. On the other hand, the disk will be in your PC and not a case, so it might be fine.
Post edited December 21, 2020 by Arundir
Posted December 21, 2020
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: No, Devotion is not "just a single game."

Rather, this debacle is showing to the world the fact that GOG has no values nor integrity, and that they will bend the knee and ban and/or censor any games that a tyrannical foreign authority (who has no real authority over GOG, other than the authority that they artificially give to it for no good reason) wants them to.

How many more games will be banned or censored in the future for the same reason? Who knows? It could be a whole lot.

I also don't agree that "nothing will change." There are a whole lot of customers who've vowed to boycott GOG over the Devotion banning. That's a lot of money that isn't going to be going into GOG's coffers any more. And GOG is an extremely small-fry that could easily go bankrupt.
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ZanLong: So\GOG is the only one who "bent the knee to China" What about Steam, they took the game off there store for the same reason. Yet, no one is screeming, and talking about bycotting Steam. Just GOG is the bad guy here. Only GOG needs to go bankrupt. If you are going to bycott becuse of China, then bycott all the stores(Steam, PS Store, Microsoft and this goes on) becuse all if them have bent the knee to China.
I've boycotted steam for years, what're you talking about? How many of gog's users do you think actually still uses steam?
Posted December 21, 2020
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Buried In Time: I own so many games on GOG and would have been happy to keep adding to my collection, but this has really shaken my faith in the longevity of this endeavor.

The collapsing stock, the loss of reputation and the possibility of developers/publishers not wanting to be associated with the controversy pulling their games or never offering them in the first place. There's plenty of games I want to buy during this sale but, with so much uncertainty, I haven't been able to bring myself to do it.
I'm in exactly the same place, I've weathered so many imbecilic decisions from this company, complained about a lot but never though they were at risk of collapsing their own business entirely until the Epic deal happened, and even then I tried to hold onto hope... But after the CP2077 debacles and now selling us out for China?

I too had quite a few games I was ready to buy this sale, but I no longer have faith that they know what they're doing in any regard and they've shown definitively that they have no integrity, no principles or even basic honesty as a business and I can almost sense a closure or buyout happening before too long, this combined with them crossing an ethical threshold has left my money in my pocket and me feeling dejected.
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ZanLong: So\GOG is the only one who "bent the knee to China" What about Steam, they took the game off there store for the same reason. Yet, no one is screeming, and talking about bycotting Steam. Just GOG is the bad guy here. Only GOG needs to go bankrupt. If you are going to bycott becuse of China, then bycott all the stores(Steam, PS Store, Microsoft and this goes on) becuse all if them have bent the knee to China.
Why do you think so many of us are even here? I hate Steam, I refuse to support or aknowledge Steam as a viable, ethical platform, a game exclusive to Steam may as well not even exist to me. Same goes for Origin, uPlay, The Microshaft Store, they're all the same shit I don't support and never have.

Many of us already see Steam as a bad guy, we've already done this song and dance, we don't care. We care about the platform we DO support. I am so sick of this whataboutism argument.
Post edited December 21, 2020 by ReynardFox
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