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Doubt GOG is going anywhere. Its a separate business from the game dev side even though both owned by same company.
And whats this about possible lawsuit?. If they refund the disgruntled and those who want it, why is there a reason to sue? (aside from fact americans seem to be sue happy capital of the world)
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Niggles: Doubt GOG is going anywhere. Its a separate business from the game dev side even though both owned by same company.
And whats this about possible lawsuit?. If they refund the disgruntled and those who want it, why is there a reason to sue? (aside from fact americans seem to be sue happy capital of the world)
it's still mostly speculation at this point. but there's a lot of news sites that seem to think a class action would be feesable, some seem to think that less than others, some really lean into it.
Post edited December 21, 2020 by fortune_p_dawg
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EKLAIR34: GOG will surely end up disappearing, something that frankly I would not like at all.
Often in such cases some other company will jump in and buy parts (GOG part here) of a failing (presumably CDPSA here) company.

IMO the most likely part to "disappear" first is maybe the forum. Is there some backup for the forum? (Many of the game forums have a lot of good information.)
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Zrevnur: Is there some backup for the forum? (Many of the game forums have a lot of good information.)
Internet Archive seems to be a good option, although I'm not sure yet as to how fragile it is against despots' pressure (or from any other powerful figures/organizations), and you need to manually issue each page to be backed up in there.

EDIT: Btw, it has a tool called Wayback Machine to make backing up pages easier, and it's available on Chrome, Firefox and Safari as extensions, and on iOS and Android as apps
Post edited December 21, 2020 by _Auster_
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Alexim: There is no DRM-free store even remotely comparable to the range of games, the number of users and the results achieved by GOG after all these years. Fortunately nothing is going to happen to GOG and neither to CDPR because the drama stirred up these days is only fueled by a minority of hotheads.

I'm very sorry for the non-release of Devotion, but in the end it's just a single game and life goes on anyway. When Hello Games after what they did with No Man's Sky is now praised by all, and publishers like EA, Activision and Ubisoft continue to grind millions, you can understand that for better or for worse nothing will change.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: No, Devotion is not "just a single game."

Rather, this debacle is showing to the world the fact that GOG has no values nor integrity, and that they will bend the knee and ban and/or censor any games that a tyrannical foreign authority (who has no real authority over GOG, other than the authority that they artificially give to it for no good reason) wants them to.

How many more games will be banned or censored in the future for the same reason? Who knows? It could be a whole lot.

I also don't agree that "nothing will change." There are a whole lot of customers who've vowed to boycott GOG over the Devotion banning. That's a lot of money that isn't going to be going into GOG's coffers any more. And GOG is an extremely small-fry that could easily go bankrupt.
So\GOG is the only one who "bent the knee to China" What about Steam, they took the game off there store for the same reason. Yet, no one is screeming, and talking about bycotting Steam. Just GOG is the bad guy here. Only GOG needs to go bankrupt. If you are going to bycott becuse of China, then bycott all the stores(Steam, PS Store, Microsoft and this goes on) becuse all if them have bent the knee to China.
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ZanLong: So\GOG is the only one who "bent the knee to China"
I think GOG is the only one with "We are Rebels" slogans in their company though.
Large part of the uproar is (IMO) not due to GOG doing it but due to GOG cheating on their userbase in terms of their protrayed core values and outright breaking their promises.

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Zrevnur: Is there some backup for the forum? (Many of the game forums have a lot of good information.)
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_Auster_: Internet Archive seems to be a good option, although I'm not sure yet as to how fragile it is against despots' pressure (or from any other powerful figures/organizations), and you need to manually issue each page to be backed up in there.

EDIT: Btw, it has a tool called Wayback Machine to make backing up pages easier, and it's available on Chrome, Firefox and Safari as extensions, and on iOS and Android as apps
I have used it (with mixed success) in the past but unless this works much better than I think its not really the complete automatic backup I would be looking for. Technically it should be easy to write a crawler but I dont know how GOGs server would react to that...
Post edited December 21, 2020 by Zrevnur
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ZanLong: What about Steam, they took the game off there store
No, they did not. Steam didn't pull the game. The publisher's license was revoked in China.
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ZanLong: What about Steam, they took the game off there store
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Turbo-Beaver: No, they did not. Steam didn't pull the game. The publisher's license was revoked in China.
Then what stopped Steam from getting a license from the pubilsher,or from the devs directly, and sell the game outside of China?
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ZanLong: What about Steam, they took the game off there store
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Turbo-Beaver: No, they did not. Steam didn't pull the game. The publisher's license was revoked in China.
Exactly. Devs / publisher pulled it from Steam. GOG banned it.
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Turbo-Beaver: No, they did not. Steam didn't pull the game. The publisher's license was revoked in China.
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ZanLong: Then what stopped Steam from getting a license from the pubilsher,or from the devs directly, and sell the game outside of China?
Steam is a platform for publishing games, not a publisher. Anyway, what does this have to do with this topic?
I backed up all my Desura games on an external hard drive before it went offline and that drive has since failed. All those games were lost in time, like tears in rain. I've been putting off backing up my collection here because it seems so daunting and costly. All the games I own with their bonus goodies would fill up multiple high capacity hard drives and creating backups of those backups just doesn't seem feasible for me at the moment.
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Buried In Time: I backed up all my Desura games on an external hard drive before it went offline and that drive has since failed. All those games were lost in time, like tears in rain. I've been putting off backing up my collection here because it seems so daunting and costly. All the games I own with their bonus goodies would fill up multiple high capacity hard drives and creating backups of those backups just doesn't seem feasible for me at the moment.
You may want to consider paid cloud storage. It says ~1$/T/month here - but I dont know if thats all and if I am correctly interpreting it: https://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/
Edit: Data retrieval is a lot more expensive it seems so probably only viable for backup-of-backup-if-all-else-fails-but-you-expect-to-never-need-it kinda.

(And better pack/encrypt it so that it cant be taken down by 'false positives' filtering.)
Post edited December 21, 2020 by Zrevnur
Well, the very reason I prefer buying games DRM-free is that when the store is no more, I can still keep and play all my games. That is the main reason GOG.com is my favored store, still.

So no, I didn't hesitate buying around 150€ worth of games on this Winter Sale so far, as I know I can download and keep them even if GOG disappears some day.

I've never kept any fallacies that GOG.com, or any digital game store, will be around forever. Not even Steam. Digital stores come and go, some last longer (Steam, and also GOG), some not (Desura, DotEmu etc.). Heck even Microsoft closed its e-book store years ago, if I remember correctly.

So, yeah, DRM-free, baby! (And when I say "baby", I don't mean, like, an actual infant, but I mean it like the way black people use it. Which is more meaningful I think.)
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Buried In Time: I backed up all my Desura games on an external hard drive before it went offline and that drive has since failed. All those games were lost in time, like tears in rain. I've been putting off backing up my collection here because it seems so daunting and costly. All the games I own with their bonus goodies would fill up multiple high capacity hard drives and creating backups of those backups just doesn't seem feasible for me at the moment.
Sorry to hear that, but.. you should really never keep unique data on a single hdd. :\
Btw, how much space do you need? 4TB external drives cost like 90$\100€.
And you won't need a second one for backup as long as Gog is safe.
Post edited December 21, 2020 by phaolo
3126 with a heaping helping of bonus goodies. Some of those are demos, but I reckon that's a lot of terabytes.
Post edited December 21, 2020 by Buried In Time