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Posted August 21, 2018
DRM-free approach in games has been at the heart of GOG.COM from day one. We strongly believe that if you buy a game, it should be yours, and you can play it the way it’s convenient for you, and not how others want you to use it.

The landscape has changed since 2008, and today many people don’t realize what DRM even means. And still the DRM issue in games remains – you’re never sure when and why you can be blocked from accessing them. And it’s not only games that are affected, but your favourite books, music, movies and apps as well.

To help understand what DRM means, how it influences your games and other digital media, and what benefits come with DRM-free approach, we’re launching the FCK DRM initiative. The goal is to educate people and ignite a discussion about DRM. To learn more visit https://fckdrm.com, and share your opinions and stories about DRM and how it affects you.
Posted August 24, 2018
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toxicTom: Well it's Apehater... he's been around since 2012 with varying degrees of saneness...
But they are still using the old logo as their avy!

I do miss that logo though....
Posted August 24, 2018
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GOG.com: DRM-free approach in games has been at the heart of GOG.COM from day one. We strongly believe that if you buy a game, it should be yours, and you can play it the way it’s convenient for you, and not how others want you to use it.

The landscape has changed since 2008, and today many people don’t realize what DRM even means. And still the DRM issue in games remains – you’re never sure when and why you can be blocked from accessing them. And it’s not only games that are affected, but your favourite books, music, movies and apps as well.

To help understand what DRM means, how it influences your games and other digital media, and what benefits come with DRM-free approach, we’re launching the FCK DRM initiative. The goal is to educate people and ignite a discussion about DRM. To learn more visit https://fckdrm.com, and share your opinions and stories about DRM and how it affects you.
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Posted August 24, 2018
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Magmarock: Also what the hell is wrong with paying for stuff.
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RusNeuroMancer: Nobody said it's wrong to pay.

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Magmarock: That right is the problem. You can't see it despite it staring at you in the face, and it's really frustrating.
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RusNeuroMancer: Linux distributions doesn't include DRM and there is no requirement for Internet connection. If you assume otherwise then educate yourself before rising false point in dispute.
Repositories don't work very well without internet.
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Pardinuz: FCK DRM! Buy more CDR stock!
I'd buy stock if I could or knew how.
Post edited August 24, 2018 by Magmarock
Posted August 24, 2018
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Magmarock: Repositories don't work very well without internet.
You've had this explained to you already. Stop repeating things that aren't true.
Posted August 24, 2018
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Magmarock: Repositories don't work very well without internet.
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xyem: You've had this explained to you already. Stop repeating things that aren't true.
I could say the same thing to you.
Posted August 24, 2018
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xyem: You've had this explained to you already. Stop repeating things that aren't true.
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Magmarock: I could say the same thing to you.
Why? To add to the list of things you are wrong about?
Posted August 24, 2018
Alright, I read pages 1-4 and don't have the time to read 5-25 so take everything I say below with a grain of salt.

I like GOG and buy my games here more often than on Steam. Usually I'll only turn to Steam when it means saving a significant amount of money. I like the idea of DRM-free, especially since I grew up in the 90s when buying a game usually meant you owned it (especially on consoles). I still have all my old PC games on disk, including, for example, TES 3: Morrowind which I bought physically twice (once when it first released, then later when it was bundled with the expansions). Just a few days ago I bought it for a third time here on GOG.

Having said all that, I'm not horribly concerned about DRM. Here's why: (and can someone please tell me why I'm wrong)

1. I don't really give two shits about multiplayer, so in the future if I want to play a game, chances are almost 100% that it'll be single player.
2. If it's a game that's good enough for me to want to play years after its release, chances are other people will too and if Steam disappears and I can't get it through there I'll be able to download a cracked version somewhere.

I have no moral qualms whatsoever about downloading a pirated version of a game I already paid for, with certain exceptions of course. (for example, I paid for Chrono Trigger on PS1 ages ago, but wouldn't pirate the iOS or PC version because additional work had to go into porting it)

So given that I don't care at all about multiplayer games, can anyone tell me why I should be worried about my copy of whatever on Steam? If it goes away, I'll just pirate it and not in the least bit feel bad.
Post edited August 24, 2018 by Kevern_Zaksor
Posted August 24, 2018
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apehater: lol just empty words and kinda insulting

how about fck gogs greedy shareholders or fck gogs mandatory drm client galaxy

or fck drm in fear

or fck gogs overpriced games or

fck gogs unupdated, unfixed, unplayable and abandoned games?
You have issues. go see a doctor.
Posted August 24, 2018
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Maybe put the energy toward getting patches for abandoned, outdated games like Broforce, The Bard's Tale, Nuclear Throne, Punch Club, etc. It boggles the mind that outdated versions continue to be sold with no warning.
Posted August 24, 2018
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ianicon: Maybe put the energy toward getting patches for abandoned, outdated games like Broforce, The Bard's Tale, Nuclear Throne, Punch Club, etc. It boggles the mind that outdated versions continue to be sold with no warning.
Wait a minute, Nuclear Throne is outdated on GOG?!

It's on my wishlist on GOG and Steam. This actually changes my chances of buying it on GOG in the future. Damn it!
Posted August 24, 2018
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ianicon: Maybe put the energy toward getting patches for abandoned, outdated games like Broforce, The Bard's Tale, Nuclear Throne, Punch Club, etc. It boggles the mind that outdated versions continue to be sold with no warning.
it boggles the mind that the same dev's new game 'graveyard keeper' (which i think looks great fyi - despite the dev/pub being a shitsack) was JUST released here, and yet punch club is more than two years out of date. how does that even happen? seriously i'm unable to even wager a guess.
Post edited August 24, 2018 by fortune_p_dawg
Posted August 24, 2018
yeah right, FCK DRM.. especially Steam and Denuvo
Posted August 24, 2018
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Thanks to FCK DRM, here comes the great-great battle for glory, peace, and freedom.
Posted August 24, 2018
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Magmarock: don't work very well
Still not requirement.
Posted August 24, 2018
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Magmarock: I could say the same thing to you.
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xyem: Why? To add to the list of things you are wrong about?
circular logic at it's finest.
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Magmarock: don't work very well
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RusNeuroMancer: Still not requirement.
IT... pretty much is. I'd say its' easier to circumvent DRM with pirate software then it is to get the Linux working in an air-gaped system. It's possible and there's "intentional" barrier to stop you. But it's such a huge weakness and functionality for the user that doesn't wish to learn terminal. Not all that different from DRM.


The whole Debian and Arch family of distros function like a Steam client for an operating system.
Post edited August 24, 2018 by Magmarock
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