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DRM-free approach in games has been at the heart of GOG.COM from day one. We strongly believe that if you buy a game, it should be yours, and you can play it the way it’s convenient for you, and not how others want you to use it.

The landscape has changed since 2008, and today many people don’t realize what DRM even means. And still the DRM issue in games remains – you’re never sure when and why you can be blocked from accessing them. And it’s not only games that are affected, but your favourite books, music, movies and apps as well.

To help understand what DRM means, how it influences your games and other digital media, and what benefits come with DRM-free approach, we’re launching the FCK DRM initiative. The goal is to educate people and ignite a discussion about DRM. To learn more visit https://fckdrm.com, and share your opinions and stories about DRM and how it affects you.
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GOG.com: To help understand what DRM means, how it influences your games and other digital media, and what benefits come with DRM-free approach, we’re launching the FCK DRM initiative. The goal is to educate people and ignite a discussion about DRM. To learn more visit https://fckdrm.com, and share your opinions and stories about DRM and how it affects you.
Ah, interesting initiative.

Anyway, I visited the site and realized it's currently displaying the OLD EFF logo.

Can someone please notice GOG staff that they ought replace it with the CURRENT EFF logo?


References:

https://fckdrm.com/images/logo-two.png

https://www.eff.org/press/logos
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mqstout: It would be great if that site included a and maintained list of articles (captures of, like PDFs, since articles disappear) of DRM issues, like the SimCity release, games like DarkSpore vanishing entirely, people losing their accounts, etc.
This is a very good point, an index of events and articls showing the various instances of harm DRM has done would be useful indeed.
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Kanashe: Holy eff this is some laughable shit. What I find hilarious is for all this DRM-Free crap, it gets pirated as well. Hell, one can just go to a local torrent site and see all the games pirated from GoG, thus rendering buying 'em completely pointless.
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Asrashas: Steam games and games employing other DRMs are just as available on torrent sites. What exactly are you on about?
Pirating didn't start with gog releases.
Every gamer knows that, but maybe some people live in a dream world and aren't aware of the big bad world outside the pink bubble.

I don't know for VIC , but c64 and up .... oh man,tons and tons , at school, at work, at volunteer jobs, ..... the list is endless i had no vic or c64 yet but i saw the 'grownups' the so called adults moving boxes full of floppies and tapes, and when asked they said it was extra work to do at home, working late so to speak at home :D
yeah right :D

Some guys were even patching and copying roms/cardridges, and there were retail stores where they sold 'snapshot' cardridges for c64 to do all kinds of things, cheat lives in many games, dump the game first loaded from the slow c64 tape to save it on a floppydisk , some people 'working late' had a red cardridge, blue one and a brown with silverwhite, so theose people working late were doing naughty things, and as a kid you thought they were working overtime :D

found only one:
Google: result:

CodeBuster (1985)

cant find the others.....

Anyway it since the start of the first games and consoles people were busy to get them for free.... so regardless the platform.... if they want it they get it so any form of DRM is bullshe-ites.... it only turns away honest buyer.



edit:


just found a cheatcardridge: Action Replay to help winning c64 games


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Replay


there were more that allowed to save the game loaded from tape ( extremely long waiting times and the tapes crashed alot) into ram to save as file to c64 disk and play it from the drive much faster
Post edited August 21, 2018 by gamesfreak64
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timppu: If you have any issues playing your Steam games DRM-free, no point to ask for support from Valve.
Well, don't ask GOG neither, because they don't care to remove the drm in F.E.A.R. completely ... read for yourself ... https://www.gog.com/forum/general/fear_installed_securom_all_over_my_computer_does_anyone_know_how_to_get_rid_of_it

And beside that I think that GOG could have done better things with their time thant making a site like this.
How about up-to-date releases?
How about a better forum?
How about no regional blocking drm?
How about one world, one price?
How about better communication with the community?
How about being more open about why a game has been rejected?
How about DRM free multiplayer? Someone in the thread said something about an open source Galaxy multiplayer component. I second that thought.
Post edited August 21, 2018 by john_hatcher
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BreOl72: That list of DRM-free music is not complete.
I know, people love to hate Amazon, but the MP3's that you buy there are DRM-free.
You download them, store them on your HDD, burn them on CD, etc. - no restrictions.
Agreed, a huge chunk of my music collection is made up of Amazon mp3 purchases that I can then put on any device I want. No restrictions. Never had to buy any music from iTunes ever.
Am i the only one that finds quoting Gabe on the site strange?
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timppu: If you have any issues playing your Steam games DRM-free, no point to ask for support from Valve.
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john_hatcher: Well, don't ask GOG neither, because they don't care to remove the drm in F.E.A.R. completely ... read for yourself ... https://www.gog.com/forum/general/fear_installed_securom_all_over_my_computer_does_anyone_know_how_to_get_rid_of_it

And beside that I think that GOG could have done better things with their time thant making a site like this.
How about up-to-date releases?
How about a better forum?
How about no regional blocking drm?
How about one world, one price?
How about better communication with the community?
How about DRM free multiplayer? Someone in the thread said something about an open source Galaxy multiplayer component. I second that thought.
How about up-to-date releases?

GOG can only ask the devs/publishers to do it as fast as possible, they cant force them i guess


How about a better forum?

dont think a forum is easy to build and maintain and make it extremely flexible and easy, i visted many forum, dutch. german, english , international and they all sux

many simple game fora for a online browser game were extremely user unfriendly and it was a nightmare to find what you searched for....


How about no regional blocking drm?

not working for GOG i dont know but every reasonable person should know that this is not onbly up to GOG i guess ....


How about one world, one price?

same applies what i said above

How about better communication with the community?


you have to be more specific and use a list to adress the major issues


How about DRM free multiplayer?

that might be up to GOG but ..... like i said all these questions can be simply answered

Anyway maybe because im old but i have no real issues with all the things mentiond above in the questions....

afteral its GOG's site so they decide....
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Fairfox: so aside frooom horribull crass name taht should hav been nixed from birth i dont get it
clue me in
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squid830: You seem to have quite an opinion on a suggestive-sounding name (which if you'd actually notice, is not actually, technically speaking, crass at all) for someone who has the grammatical capabilities of a dung beetle coming down from crack with a few tokes on the bong too many. Probably also drunk.

Even then I'd probably find it much easier to understand the beetle, as it most probably has a consistent language - which could in theory be incorporated into Google translate (this isn't likely, since drunken cracked-out weed smoking dung beetle to English translation hasn't ever been suggested as something worth striving for, let alone suggest as an option); the closest I came to attempting to understand your "language" (such as it is) was by studying how teenagers communicate on social media while drunk and/or stoned when using their mobile phone with only one hand.

Which also explains why you don't get it. Though to be fair, the beetle would probably have problems too at this point, what with the downers to counter the coming down from the uppers and all.

If I understand you correctly (and I apologise if I do not - but as described above that's not exactly unexpected) - you don't appear to appreciate how evil DRM actually is, by saying something to the effect of "well some games have it, so yeah I'll use it when forced to and I'm fine with that".

THAT is the problem - and the purpose of the website is to raise awareness among users of what it is, what it can do, and how it can totally FCK u UP. Because DRM can FCK u UP, u ND 2 tel DRM 2 FCK OFF. So FCK DRM.

Hope that makes things clearer. Though hopefully you've visited the website and now realise how evil it is. Every time you buy a game with DRM, you are basically saying that it's OK for someone to come over to your house and steal your car seat covers because they're kind of embarrassing and the company that made them is really sorry they exist and wants to cover up all evidence of their shocking design. Or wants to digitally replace Jabba the Hutt with a shaved walrus due to NASA coming into contact with aliens that kind of look a bit like the Hutts and we don't want to offend them lest they destroy our planet.

Do YOU really want someone to have the power to digitally replace a fictional character in a game or movie you like just because not doing so is believed by the powers that be that it could lead to the destruction of our entire species? After you've bought something, don't YOU have the right to watch it the way it was originally intended, without political interference? Wouldn't you rather doom the entire species than have something that YOU bought and paid for is altered to be slightly different just to appease minority interests? Who are these ALIENS to tell US what to do on OUR OWN PLANET?

Freedom or death. FCK DRM.
Whatever it is you're smoking, share that sht, unless it's ss. I'm not into eating ss, or fcking ss, or whatever, just cnt, 'cause dmn, people who do that sht are bstrds.

(Sorry, to those who like ss, i just needed an excuse to make fun of the vowel removal.)
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gamesfreak64: d*ck ?????
if you refer to the word you can use it without * cause its a common name for a guy: Dick
the other meaning is slang , it depends on how you put something in context

Google:

Anyway, we dont have that problem in Dutch language, cause Dick is like in Dick Tracey, Dick van Dyke, .....
nothing to laugh or be angry about.
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mike_cesara: I meant Willy ; )

Someone here mentioned problems with Fallout while abroad. Steam users from central and eastern part of Europe should beware of Bethesda* games in general. Despite western price those are usually locked outside of your country. Different forum page and DLC's aren't compatible. You can't even gift some of them, even in your country (e.g. Dishonored).

*Especially RHCP versions (Russian Hungarian Czech Polish)

I can see some sissies felt offended with literal naming of the initiative. Good, let me say it loud: F U C K D R M!
Due to ridiculous protections I couldn't play so many games I paid for, no one and nothing will convince me otherwise.
Ah Willy , i know that name and it is a name first and slang ( dirty) later, they call the Dutch King, King Willy , his full name is Willem Alexander but in short its King Willy in English.

I have another one you might heard of:

(google result)

Cock Robin : Cock Robin is an American pop rock band, mostly popular in the 1980s, particularly in continental Europe, where it achieved major success,
and yes its dirty in slang :D


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Lucumo: Pretty terrible name that doesn't entice people to take it seriously.
Perhaps but serious calm friendly people aren't taken very seriously nowadays, and they never were in the past aswell i guess, so sometimes it's time to drop the correctness like i mentioned earlier in a previous post.
Post edited August 21, 2018 by gamesfreak64
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Kanashe: Holy eff this is some laughable shit. What I find hilarious is for all this DRM-Free crap, it gets pirated as well. Hell, one can just go to a local torrent site and see all the games pirated from GoG, thus rendering buying 'em completely pointless.
Yeah if you're ethically bankrupt. Piss off with this attitude.

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gamesfreak64: serious calm friendly people aren't taken very seriously nowadays, and they never were in the past aswell i guess, so sometimes it's time to drop the correctness like i mentioned earlier in a previous post.
This. Seriously.
Post edited August 21, 2018 by ReynardFox
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Kanashe: Holy eff this is some laughable shit. What I find hilarious is for all this DRM-Free crap, it gets pirated as well. Hell, one can just go to a local torrent site and see all the games pirated from GoG, thus rendering buying 'em completely pointless.
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ReynardFox: Yeah if you're ethically bankrupt. Piss off with this attitude.
I agree, if i like a game i buy it DRM free, if i dont like a game i don't want to have it for free.

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Kanashe: Holy eff this is some laughable shit. What I find hilarious is for all this DRM-Free crap, it gets pirated as well. Hell, one can just go to a local torrent site and see all the games pirated from GoG, thus rendering buying 'em completely pointless.
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ReynardFox: Yeah if you're ethically bankrupt. Piss off with this attitude.

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gamesfreak64: serious calm friendly people aren't taken very seriously nowadays, and they never were in the past aswell i guess, so sometimes it's time to drop the correctness like i mentioned earlier in a previous post.
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ReynardFox: This. Seriously.
I agree, if i like a game i buy it DRM free, if i dont like a game i don't want to have it for free.
Post edited August 21, 2018 by gamesfreak64
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john_hatcher: How about no regional blocking drm?
How about one world, one price?
I wonder how many fewer games we'd have if GOG had stuck with these.
low rated
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Kanashe: Holy eff this is some laughable shit. What I find hilarious is for all this DRM-Free crap, it gets pirated as well. Hell, one can just go to a local torrent site and see all the games pirated from GoG, thus rendering buying 'em completely pointless.
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ReynardFox: Yeah if you're ethically bankrupt. Piss off with this attitude.
Uh-huh sure I am, or maybe I'm just not some naive sheep who believes in all this BS about "Oh, we needs to be moral and not pirate stuff from GoG! They worked SOOO hard on it! Give 'em a cookie!", eff off least I'm being a realist here.
I'd like to have FCKDRM stickers! for the laptop, outdoors, etc, ....
Post edited August 21, 2018 by mchack
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GOG.com: DRM-free approach in games has been at the heart of GOG.COM from day one. We strongly believe that if you buy a game, it should be yours, and you can play it the way it’s convenient for you, and not how others want you to use it.

The landscape has changed since 2008, and today many people don’t realize what DRM even means. And still the DRM issue in games remains – you’re never sure when and why you can be blocked from accessing them. And it’s not only games that are affected, but your favourite books, music, movies and apps as well.

To help understand what DRM means, how it influences your games and other digital media, and what benefits come with DRM-free approach, we’re launching the FCK DRM initiative. The goal is to educate people and ignite a discussion about DRM. To learn more visit https://fckdrm.com, and share your opinions and stories about DRM and how it affects you.
thank you gog