You're not the only one who doesn't understand his cryptic pseudo-intellectual posts.

Dude, just walk away. It's the only thing to do with that guy. It's not pseudo-intellectual, it's classic troll tactics. He will take your argument, undermine a logical premise with an unproven statement, then throw in a different premise, after taking down the strawman he's created, to trick you into following his trail. His next reply will only deal with the immediate misdirection he employed allowing him to then lead you in a circle on his arguments, throwing in the same undermining again and again.

The only way to win with him is not to play.

EDIT: Case in point with his last reply - WTF - Biological weapons?

Then I guess you're ignorant of the fact that the vaccine industry -- and medicine in general -- values profits over prevention.

Hogwash.

Unless we are talking about full dictatorships like North Korea, all countries have the leaders they deserve. Yes, only Italians are responsible for their leaders and the decisions they make (and the corruption etc. in the society), not Germans, Dutch, Finns etc. (yes Finland is also very much against those eurobonds, and for a very good reason). We can't vote in Italian elections, you can.

Let's talk again when all the other countries and their citizens can also vote in the Italian and Greek elections, and also become Italian/Greek politicians if needed. If you want us to pay for your debts, then we must also have the power to change your politics and fully dictate how you live.

I am so jealous of Swedes who are not part of the euro zone and still have their own currency (even though the Maastricht treaty says all EU countries should be part of the euro zone, but doesn't specify how fast they should adopt it).

I am not surprised at all none of the major Swedish parties are even suggesting that Sweden should join the eurozone (I think only their tiny liberal party suggests that). Hence, Sweden doesn't need to take part of any eurobonds or bailling out southern eurocountries from their homemade financial problems (and no I am not talking about corona epidemic, Italy was already in financial trouble before it).

Maybe it is time to abolish euro and every country can do with their own currency what they want. That is what Sweden is doing.

How generous of you, wpegg. Sling mud, no specific examples, if I didn't know better I'd think you were engaging in ad hominem attacks, but surely an upstanding Englishman of your calibre is above that sort of ignoble conduct, right m8? lol

How can you make any 'informed' decisions, if you don't even follow current affairs and don't have all the information?

Isn't the point of scaring people and saying news is 'fake', about making people NOT read the news? And become easily controllable by the people in power?

All places are not the same. All healthcare systems are not for-profit. All governments are not as corrupt.

If you provided a vaccine tomorrow and patented it, you would make a fortune, so this whole 'profit over prevention' argument falls flat on its face. Pretty much everyone is racing towards getting there, and some not only for profit. The vaccine for polio was famously not patented and given freely, back in the day.

I did notice before that you bet me in pounds. What makes you think I'm an Englishman?

No, it's really practical and objective :
- trading cost billions of dollars to public ressources, hence the lack of beds in hospitals, less and less money for aged people, more and more unemployment, all this causing more and more deaths in the world, and subsequantially lowering my own wages.
Traders have an objective negative value, if you really want to take all the figures and not just how cynically the GDP is calculated (not to mention GDP is a vast humbug as how much are valuated all the natural ressources (trees, iron, petrol, sun energy... ), the answer is : zero. The true subjectivity is in how businness or public accounting value or not things. I don't know what is WMD the acronym for (weapon of mass destruction it seems?)

Well, I don't remember what Hans Blix said about Iraq weapons. I remember well the speech of our prime minister though.

What I know (and knew) it's that Dick Cheney made millions of dollars in stock actions by deciding to make war to Iraq.
That doesn't mean by itself that he was lying, only that he has very valuable reasons to do so.
I also have a big bias against any claim by USA politicians (particularly if they are republicans - their economic logic is so flawed)

So, not remembering what Hans Blix recommended, and knowing Cheney, and if they said something different, I would naturally have a better feeling toward Blix.

All this of course if the only sources I'll have would be those two.

But, there were many more sources than those two, and logic helped too :
1/ it was technically and financially impossible that Iraq had the 4th army of the world;
2/ long range missiles and nuclear weapons are so hard to have it was very unlikely Iraq could have, even just one;
3/ from memory, it was also allegiated connection between Iraq government and Al-Qaeda. Well, that was also very unlikely to anyone knowing history between Iraq government and Al-Quaeda...

Of course, all this could have been proven wrong, and someone who didn't have curiosity about this part of the world in the 90's and beginning of the 2000's, discovering the assertions of Cheney would certainly have a lot of difficulty to find on the web who to believe.

But well, you avoided again the question.
That's very funny.

They never tried to achieve herd immunity, iirc even in Wuhan more than 90% of the population is estimated never to have become infected. They basically went for total suppression through extreme lockdown measures, not the sort of somewhat half-hearted approach seen in most western countries so far.

What the hell happened to the gog forums? Is it my imagination that it used to be better than this?

I read articles, such as the series Seymour Hersh wrote for The New Yorker re the Bush administration's manipultion of the collection and analysis of intelligence pertaining to it's allegations re Iraq's violation of UNSC resolutions, which were made as a pretext for war.

As for vaccines, every single disease for which there is a vaccine was in decline long before vaccines showed up. Every single one.

Nobody asked you to pay for other countries debts. The only thing that italy and other countries for eurobond is asking is to be able to make debts in this virus crysis where all European nations guarantee for the others so that everyone can access a low interest rate, which is fundamental in this period.
Italy will still pay for Italy debts.
The only real issues is if one country default, in that case Italy, Spain etc ... would all guarantee the debt made (not only north eu countries). It's called risk sharing and it's only a problem if one country fail to repay debts.

And there are a lot of people like you also in italy. People who want the end of the European Union and who want to return to the lira.
Instead, I believe in a united and supportive Europe. But if there are countries that do not want to be part of it, I think it is right for them to leave.
If the Germans, Dutch, Finns etc ... do not want to be part of a solidarity union based on the principles of humanity, they should found their own soulless economic kingdom.

Your poor manners. ;p

Sorry, I didn't mean to upset you. I was just saying it was time to stop (EDIT: In my opinion).