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Dalthnock: Winnie the Pooh says it's just the sniffles, bro.

Let Asians cough directly into your mouth, show them you're not racist. That's the REAL danger, racism.
Chinese people are probably safer to be around than many others. Say what you want about the Chinese government, but they acted at an earlier stage than many other countries. The safest people of all to be around would probably be North Koreans, disposal of patient zero means no problem.

Not saying I approve, but at first glance, they acted quicker and will probably have results that reflect that.
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firstpastthepost: Rather than being an alarmist, like you originally said you didn't want to be, why not base things on available facts that make sense to base on available facts?
I didn't get the meaning of your reply. I reported actual facts and I did it with no intention of being an alarmist, but realist.

I said that the disease is not worrisome for the single person who get infected, but it surely is for the whole community. The mortality rate could be the same of normal influenza, or even lower, this is not the main point. The real problem is that the disease is actually creating an unusual amount of people in need of intensive care treatment and that could bring the healthcare system to the point that it has to choose whoever to cure or not. This is the worrisome part.
Have a great day everyone, and don't stress too much about something that is out of our control. If there is such thing as control to begin with.

All the best! <3
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babark: Also, I'm curious with the toilet paper craze now...what are people stockpiling toilet paper for? What are they doing with it that they weren't doing before? Why do they need more? It's so weird!
It's to be prepared for self-isolation, or for the possibility that your region is placed under lockdown like Wuhan and northern Italy.
Would be pretty annoying, if you were put under quarantine, and didn't have enough toilet paper for a few weeks, don't you think?
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dr.schliemann: Hard to say: this is somehow left to common sense, meaning that you can interact with others but only for a short time, avoiding the risk of a prolonged and continuous interaction.
Measures such as enlarging distances between tables in restaurants, for instance, or allowing few people at the counter in coffee bar could be helpful in the fight against the outbreak.
The problem I see with this is that as the infection can be spread via droplets/etc, it could be spread to surfaces via a sneeze/cough and linger there long after someone moves somewhere else and another person touches that surface.....making the keeping apart rule not so effective....well unless people clean every surface they can every so often, that is.
Post edited March 09, 2020 by GameRager
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All this reminded me of something I forget most of the time.

USE WATER! Dry cleaning is gross- see guy who has to clean up in shower for reference.
I use a hand bidet, so the only time I need toilet paper is to dry off, and 1 square is enough for that.
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kai2: In this modern world, many of you probably have not been in a situation of self-reliance. And while we have yet to see the extent of this pandemic on daily life, the signs are clear that this is the time to try and be as self-reliant as possible for the near future.
THIS

(Also why they don't make such emergency workers wear masks yet when making such visits with such going on confuses me to no end)
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Dalthnock: Winnie the Pooh says it's just the sniffles, bro.

Let Asians cough directly into your mouth, show them you're not racist. That's the REAL danger, racism.
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DadJoke007: Chinese people are probably safer to be around than many others. Say what you want about the Chinese government, but they acted at an earlier stage than many other countries. The safest people of all to be around would probably be North Koreans, disposal of patient zero means no problem.

Not saying I approve, but at first glance, they acted quicker and will probably have results that reflect that.
ofc they acted fast they had to protect their organ donors , nobody would buy infected organs
Post edited March 09, 2020 by Orkhepaj
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dr.schliemann: Hard to say: this is somehow left to common sense, meaning that you can interact with others but only for a short time, avoiding the risk of a prolonged and continuous interaction.
Measures such as enlarging distances between tables in restaurants, for instance, or allowing few people at the counter in coffee bar could be helpful in the fight against the outbreak.
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GameRager: The problem I see with this is that as the infection can be spread via droplets/etc, it could be spread to surfaces via a sneeze/cough and linger there ling after someone moves somewhere else and another person touches that surface.....making the keeping apart rule not so effective....well unless people clean every surface they can every so often, that is.
COVID 19 has been found -- in some cases -- to stay alive and active on inert surfaces for up to 9 days.
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kai2: COVID 19 has been found -- in some cases -- to stay alive and active on inert surfaces for up to 9 days.
so like a mine, hmm no wonder it is human made
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GameRager: The problem I see with this is that as the infection can be spread via droplets/etc, it could be spread to surfaces via a sneeze/cough and linger there long after someone moves somewhere else and another person touches that surface.....making the keeping apart rule not so effective....well unless people clean every surface they can every so often, that is.
Lysol spray and molotov cocktails. If one doesn't kill it the other will.
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paladin181: Lysol spray and molotov cocktails. If one doesn't kill it the other will.
Eh, I think burning down one's business wouldn't help much(well unless one was insured that is).

(Note to all: I do not endorse arson or insurance frowd)

Also as for Lysol/etc....that's all well and good until it possibly runs low/out from over use.
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GameRager: The problem I see with this is that as the infection can be spread via droplets/etc, it could be spread to surfaces via a sneeze/cough and linger there long after someone moves somewhere else and another person touches that surface.....making the keeping apart rule not so effective....well unless people clean every surface they can every so often, that is.
The virus can supposedly survive on most surfaces (metal, paper, glass) for 4-5 days. So if one goes to public spaces and touches surfaces which are touched by many other people (doorhandles, elevator buttons etc.) one should mabye use a tissue to avoid coming into direct contact, or if that's not possible at least avoid touching your mouth, nose or eyes (those are the entrypoints for the virus, it can't just enter through your skin), until you've washed your hands.
Post edited March 09, 2020 by morolf
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dr.schliemann: Hard to say: this is somehow left to common sense, meaning that you can interact with others but only for a short time, avoiding the risk of a prolonged and continuous interaction.
Measures such as enlarging distances between tables in restaurants, for instance, or allowing few people at the counter in coffee bar could be helpful in the fight against the outbreak.
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GameRager: The problem I see with this is that as the infection can be spread via droplets/etc, it could be spread to surfaces via a sneeze/cough and linger there long after someone moves somewhere else and another person touches that surface.....making the keeping apart rule not so effective....well unless people clean every surface they can every so often, that is.
This is correct: unfortunately it is impossible to completely cancel the risk to be infected, but at least it is possible to reduce it. And, as morolf correctly said above, there is no risk to be infected by simply touching a surface, If you don't touch your mouth, nose or eyes with your hands afterwards.
Post edited March 09, 2020 by dr.schliemann
while i do believe the media is sensationalizing this, covid is going to spread for the next few months pretty much everywhere due to the long symptomless incubation time. Add in the growing number of infected who willingly avoid voluntary isolation for whatever reason. I dont think the danger will be from high mortality rate but rather from the distruption to societal and market economics by long quarantine times overlapping as each region gets hit. my partner has been tasked with working on the vaccine for covid but that wont be anywhere near ready for a year. All we can do is take it serious without freaking out, maintain hygiene protocols and go on with life.