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Catshade: 1. Where's the toilet paper?!
2. They should put down the toilet seat!!
3. Ummm...it's too clean?
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kianweic: 1. Most toilets in Malaysia has no toilet paper.
2. Not really.
3. That is consider clean.
Position of the urinal and toilet bowl to closed to each other. As such, one could shit and pee at the same time.

Maybe they were just dying to join the www.thereifixedit.com family ;)
First, sorry about the (lack of) white space...I was sorta rambling and didn't think about it :-)
Second, thanks for the advice! I've had quite a few people say it's infatuation...I'm beginning to agree :-)
I also learned (through all that) to NEVER EVER talk about "girl problems" to other girls, I'll only make that mistake once (or seven or eight times...but I've learned! ;-)
And I've decided to slow down and back off some, you sorta seconded (or thirded or whatever) that decision...thanks!
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A_Future_Pilot:

I think that maybe your religion is the cause of a lot of those problems. Just putting it out there.
I think that belief in a higher power can be very good for your life but it seems to me that the church may be having a negative impact on you. You let your mum push you around because you have to honour thy parents. Your willing to marry someone you hardly know when you are both very young because (this is assuming you believe in no sex before marriage or whatever) your church teaches you that that is the next level.
I'm not saying become an athiest or whatever but maybe you should take a step back from the church. I personally am not a big fan of organized religion (i'm also an idiot) so i'm probably seeing a connection that dosnt exist but just think about it.
Post edited March 16, 2010 by Salsa_Shark
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A_Future_Pilot:
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Salsa_Shark: I think that maybe your religion is the cause of a lot of those problems. Just putting it out there.
I think that belief in a higher power can be very good for your life but it seems to me that the church may be having a negative impact on you. You let your mum push you around because you have to honour thy parents. Your willing to marry someone you hardly know when you are both very young because (this is assuming you believe in no sex before marriage or whatever) your church teaches you that that is the next level.
I'm not saying become an athiest or whatever but maybe you should take a step back from the church. I personally am not a big fan of organized religion (i'm also an idiot) so i'm probably seeing a connection that dosnt exist but just think about it.

Yeah that's exactly what came to my mind as well, and although I'm a Christian as well I think that trying to live like the church teaches you is sometimes really rough and puts some extra pressure on you in situations when that's the last thing you need, like when we're talking about dating for example. It feels kinda risky to me to marry someone that you don't know intimately, and if you live by the doctrines of the church you'll have to get married first before you can thoroughly know your partner. Not meaning that you'd have a divorce if your partner isn't good at sex (you can easily put it that way, I want to clarify that's not what I mean), but, yeah, I guess you got the point.
On the other hand, though, trying to follow the doctrines concerning premarital sex has saved me from losing my virginity more than once in situations that I'd sure as heck have regretted, and I'm extremely grateful for that. Actually it's been more about my personal principles rather than the religion since I'm far from a fanatic Christian, but sure the religion has had an influence on how I see things, thus affecting my moral world and all.
So, what can I say as a conclusion? I wouldn't blame the religion since it has its pros and cons (like everything else), but I can't really say something like "listen to your heart" or some other cliches, cause, sometimes, doing that is the biggest mistake you can make, especially if you're young because your feelings can go like a rollercoaster. How about trying to be equally rational and emotional? Nah, hell if I knew, life is so complicated.
But hey A_Future_Pilot, I wish you luck and keep cool. Things have a tendency of taking care of themselves, it's gonna turn out ok. Like seriously, that's not just an overused, meaningless phrase. I've been through some rough shit and I can sincerely say that. Not trying to sound like a badass, I know everyone has problems - I'm just happy to be able to say that I made it through the storm when it was my turn to get hit by it. You'll make it as well, no matter how impossible it might feel sometimes. I'll send a prayer in your direction tonight (or not actually in your direction, but concerning you anyway). :)
And a little OT: I am yet again amazed of the high-quality community here, a topic like this and no trolling or other inappropiate comments, or at least I've seen none so far. Although there are very different kinds of people here I still feel like I can share things here without fear of getting laughed at, I give you guys props for that.
I've never got the whole 'no sex before marriage' thing, its like buying a stupidly expensive game without playing the demo.
I mean how do you know it'll even work with your hardware and who knows what DRM might be involved, are you willing to be permanently connected to the internet and have limited activations?
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Aliasalpha: I mean how do you know it'll even work with your hardware and who knows what DRM might be involved, are you willing to be permanently connected to the internet and have limited activations?

I like my women like my GOG.
Post edited March 16, 2010 by Catshade
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Aliasalpha: I've never got the whole 'no sex before marriage' thing, its like buying a stupidly expensive game without playing the demo.
I mean how do you know it'll even work with your hardware and who knows what DRM might be involved, are you willing to be permanently connected to the internet and have limited activations?

Yea, I also don't understand people who won't LIVE with their prospective spouse before marriage. Even if you've dated them for years, you don't really know them or their potentially annoying habits until you live with them. Your entire relationship dynamic can be way different when living together than when you're not, especially the portion about spending all day every day together.
If you are having doubts about marrying someone before having sex - then it's debatable how strong your feelings towards that person really are.
And if you see Church's teachings as constraints - then you have to answer yourself - how strong your faith really is.
Just my philosophy of life.
I'm not gonna start preaching about my belief (I know there's another thread for that :-) but just sorta my two cents on why I do what I do:
Personally I don't so much follow "the church", I don't like their rules etc. anymore than the next guy...I just have a personal belief in Jesus, and I'm gonna try and live as close to His example as I can.
As to the whole "sex before marriage" thing, I don't think I'd do that even if I didn't believe what I do, cause I personally don't want to have to apologize to my wife someday, and tell her that I couldn't wait for her...that I threw away one of the best gifts I could give her to some random girl growing up...
Anyway those are just my thoughts on the thing...thanks for listening, and not telling me I'm an idiot for my belief etc. :-)
And thanks for the prayer El_Double! :-)
Post edited March 16, 2010 by A_Future_Pilot

(Somewhat) Old and cheap? :D
Sorry, just couldn't restrain myself from posting that.
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AndrewC: (Somewhat) Old and cheap? :D
Sorry, just couldn't restrain myself from posting that.

I didn't click on the link because I was expecting a pic of some really old lady
Damn, the forum has the munchies again, its eating my posts.
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A_Future_Pilot: As to the whole "sex before marriage" thing, I don't think I'd do that even if I didn't believe what I do, cause I personally don't want to have to apologize to my wife someday, and tell her that I couldn't wait for her...that I threw away one of the best gifts I could give her to some random girl growing up...

Well my point was that if sex means something special to you, it should not be some random girl but the woman you're serious about. Like it or not, sex is an important part of human relationships and if you're going to get into a permanent one, it's probably a good idea to make sure you're sexually compatible. If you don't then you may both end up unsatisfied which will inevitably taint the good parts of your relationship and ruin it all.
I'm reminded of a quote from metalocalypse
"the American wedding is a dark and fearful sham. The event itself is designed to incite anger and drain loved ones of patience, support and money. Most marriages fail miserably within two years; others end in murder-suicides, and a small percentage of them end with what we like to call "liveable hatred.""
Post edited March 16, 2010 by Aliasalpha
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AndrewC: (Somewhat) Old and cheap? :D
Sorry, just couldn't restrain myself from posting that.
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ilves: I didn't click on the link because I was expecting a pic of some really old lady

Naah, it's just a pic of Tom Ohle with a funny t-shirt. :P
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Paradoks: If you are having doubts about marrying someone before having sex - then it's debatable how strong your feelings towards that person really are.

Depends on your perspective, just as you said; for some (myself included) the sexual aspect is an important part of the relationship and it's dynamic.
The whole "love" aspect involves sex as well and finding someone who you'll spend the rest of your life with means that you really need to fit; I have honestly broken up with girls because we just didn't click sexually and have been fortunate enough that they shared my views and everything was painless and clean, staying friends even after the breakup.
If I'm going to spend the rest of my life with someone I better well be compatible on all walks of life. I've seen serious relationships degrade quickly because of lack of sex which leads to frustration (the untold variety, which is even worse than cheating in my book) and I don't want to end up there (just as I don't want to get married at 21 like some people around me are doing right now and end up divorced by 27).
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A_Future_Pilot: As to the whole "sex before marriage" thing, I don't think I'd do that even if I didn't believe what I do, cause I personally don't want to have to apologize to my wife someday, and tell her that I couldn't wait for her...that I threw away one of the best gifts I could give her to some random girl growing up...

Sex at first is very awkward and strange and not really that much fun (and the first time I did that was with an awesome girl who is still my girlfriend - even though we broke up and got back together) and I personally don't consider it "one of the best gifts I could give", even if just by the "how much pleasure can you bring her with 0 experience" side of things.
Don't get me wrong here, I'm not trying to change your point of view, just sharing a different opinion on the mater.
Sex becomes better and better as you do it often and often (and preferably with the same partner as to learn what each-other likes best). Coming to it as a total beginner (and no, the things they do in porn movies aren't really that pleasurable) isn't something really fun; this of course depends on the partner as well.
In the end sex is about having fun and love-sex is about having fun while totally trusting the other person.
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Aliasalpha:

Hehe Aliasalpha, took my words out of my mouth :) Your post wasn't up when I was writing mine.
Post edited March 16, 2010 by AndrewC
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AndrewC: Sex at first is very awkward and strange and not really that much fun (and the first time I did that was with an awesome girl who is still my girlfriend - even though we broke up and got back together) and I personally don't consider it "one of the best gifts I could give", even if just by the "how much pleasure can you bring her with 0 experience" side of things.

There's also a danger in deifying sex. By massively outweighing the importance of a basic biological function (which is no more or less magical than having a poo) and turning it into an object of reverence or worship, there's no fucking way (if you'll pardon the pun) that it can live up to ANY of those expectations and the experience you've been expecting to change your entire existance turns into "oh, was that it?"