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Posted July 07, 2017
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Hunter65536: Not in but I could definitely use help installing Linux on my laptop. Efi shit keeps grub menu from showing up and despite multiple attempts I was unable to rectify this.[/url]
You need to install it the same way that Windows is installed, if Windows is installed in EFI mode then Linux must be installed in EFI mode too, same for legacy mode. More detailed instructions are in the guide I posted but here's a quick summary:

- First go into Windows and ensure that "Fast Startup" is turned off, then go into the system's BIOS menu and make sure that secure boot and quick boot (might be named differently but should be something similar at least) are both disabled.

- Next boot the Mint disc/USB using the boot override option in the BIOS menu. Make sure to pick the correct boot option (UEFI or legacy depending on which mode Windows is installed in).

- Install Mint on to the system. It's easiest to use the automatic option for installing alongside Windows & the installer will allow you to resize Windows' partition to create space, but if you've already set aside some space as in the first link you posted then manually setting up the partitioning might be best.

When it's done, reboot & as long as it's installed in the same mods as Windows + stuff like secure boot is turned off it should work. If you're still having problems then let me know & I'll try to help :)


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ciemnogrodzianin: I read about that release and I'm a bit confused. Perhaps you're the right person to ask. Mint was always based on Ubuntu editions released twice a year (April and October AFAIR). Every two years there was a LTS Ubuntu distro and I always switched to Mint based on that LTS edition. Support for other editions was too short for me.

Last time I've jumped to 18.0 (i.e. Sarah) and now I'm lost. I'm looking on this list of Mint releases and understand nothing. Are we still on Ubuntu 16.04? But here it looks like 18.2 is LTS. And all Mint editions since 17.0 are LTS. How is that possible? And how long is that LTS? :)
Mint used to follow the latest versions of Ubuntu, but when Canonical shortened the support period for non-LTS releases they stopped doing that and now just use the LTS releases of Ubuntu. As written in the guide:
As of Mint 17, all editions of Mint are based off the current long-term support (LTS) releases of Ubuntu, which
are supported for 5 years, so: Mint 17.x releases are based on Ubuntu 14.04 and will be supported until
2019, while Mint 18.x releases are based on Ubuntu 16.04 and will be supported until 2021.
... and Mint 19.x will be based on Ubuntu 18.04 :)

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ciemnogrodzianin: I'm always making fresh installation and my purpose was always to:
a) make a new installation as rarily as possible
b) have the newest possible kernel and software ;)
Any idea if it makes sense to change to 18.2 in considering such priorities?
If what you're using now works fine for you now & you don't need/want features added in newer versions of Mint then no need to upgrade, the available packages should mostly be the same and the available kernels will all be the same.
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Posted July 07, 2017
Hmmm, really appreciate the quick reply and the tip about secure boot that is certainly something I didn't do before. (Mainly because I lost the ability to boot into windows when I did that) Will try again and get back to you with results. Could use more detail about point number 2 though, don't think I got what you were saying -

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adamhm: - Next boot the Mint disc/USB using the boot override option in the BIOS menu. Make sure to pick the correct boot option (UEFI or legacy depending on which mode Windows is installed in).
Windows 10 only boots when the secure boot is on though if it answers the question about which mode windows is installed in
Posted July 07, 2017
Great giveaway +1

I would like to be in please -

The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind GOTY Edition

I used Linux for many years, supposed to be getting an old pc soon, sounds like a great time to get nix back on my home network. Wonder if Suse is still about.....made me think, thank you, will go have a look see :)
Posted July 07, 2017
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Hunter65536: Hmmm, really appreciate the quick reply and the tip about secure boot that is certainly something I didn't do before. (Mainly because I lost the ability to boot into windows when I did that) Will try again and get back to you with results. Could use more detail about point number 2 though, don't think I got what you were saying -
In the BIOS menu there should be a boot override option so you can tell it to boot using a different drive/bootloader, ignoring the usual boot order. Most systems have a compatibility mode ("Compatibility Support Module" or so) for booting in legacy mode rather than UEFI mode, so unless that's not present (or disabled) you'll have two options for booting from the installer disc/USB: one legacy, the other UEFI. It should be easy to tell which is which.

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Hunter65536: Windows 10 only boots when the secure boot is on though if it answers the question about which mode windows is installed in
It should work just fine with secure boot disabled... what does it do/say if you try to boot with secure boot disabled?

Also check your system's boot order- it's possible that with secure boot disabled it's now trying to use the bootloader from one of your previous Ubuntu install attempts (which may now be broken by the previous attempts at fixing it and/or if you've removed the failed Ubuntu install since then) rather than Windows' bootloader.

Edit: To explain further, when you install an OS in UEFI mode it should tell the UEFI that it's been installed & where to find its bootloader, and it will create an entry for it at the top of the boot order list. Since you had secure boot enabled, the UEFI wouldn't have been able to start it so it'd go to the next in the list (causing it to boot straight into Windows instead).

Disabling secure boot would then mean it would try to use the bootloader that Ubuntu installed, but if the bootloader has been broken by the attempts at fixing it or you've removed the Ubuntu install without removing the bootloader or changing the boot order manually then that could cause it to fail with an error instead.
Post edited July 07, 2017 by adamhm
Posted July 07, 2017
Sounds easy, I was affraid trying different operating system.

Thank you Adamhm. (-:


CDPR yes You!
When does The Witcher 3 Windows Embargo expire!?

I want to play my Damn Witcher 3 on Linux with Vulcan!!
Posted July 08, 2017
Thanks for the giveaway! Count me in for:

Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun

Sam & Max Hit the Road
Posted July 08, 2017
Oh thanks for telling about the new LM version. Will upgrade 18.1 >> 18.2 sometime this weekend.

Thanks for yet another lovely giveaway but NOT in this time.

All questions that I knew the answers to were already nicely answered.
Posted July 08, 2017
Tried the secure Boot disabling thing and turned out I was disabling uefi previously. However even then it didn't work so I almost came to post here but then I decided to check again since I hadn't tried troubleshooting for this problem with mint and I find this. Wasn't too optimistic but I tried it and it worked for me. Rebooted the system thrice consecutively just to assure myself that this was not a one time fix. It works now, thank you very much adamhm for pointing out that thing about secure boot. :)
Posted July 08, 2017
I am in for these titles:

1st - Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun ;
2nd - Hotline Miami.

Thanks for the giveaway.
Posted July 08, 2017
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Thanks for the giveaway.

I'm in for Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun.
Posted July 08, 2017
Thank you adamhm for another great giveaway.

I'm in for:
> Mirror's Edge
> The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind GOTY Edition
> Infinifactory
> Defender's Quest
Posted July 08, 2017
Thanks for the efforts in making gaming on Linux easier.

Have the games on that list I'm interested in, so not part of the give-away.

Didn't know Mint had come out with 18.2, but then I'm still on 17.1. I'm of the mind "if it works, why risk it".
Posted July 08, 2017
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Great giveaway, as always! Thank you for your generosity and +1.

I'd like to be in for

Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun
Infinifactory


I do have one question about Mint though. Is it easy to install it as a Live-System on a DVD or USB Stick that does not change anything on the installed hard drive?
Posted July 08, 2017
I'd like to try my luck for Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun, thank you very much! :)
Posted July 08, 2017
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Geralt_of_Rivia: I do have one question about Mint though. Is it easy to install it as a Live-System on a DVD or USB Stick that does not change anything on the installed hard drive?
Just burn the .iso to a disc or make a bootable USB drive & boot from that to use the live environment; no changes will be made to anything on the system unless you tell it to do so. If you want to run the live environment as a semi-permanent install with changes to settings etc kept between reboots, you can make a bootable USB drive and enable persistence.
Post edited July 08, 2017 by adamhm
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