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mechmouse: It is possible to thank someone for their hard work in one area while being aware of mistakes or compromises elsewhere.

Yes they need our money, but as I said, for most companies income is not the primary controlling factor in their business. The only companies that place profit above its other interests are those that are failing or those already in control of a market.

The vast majority of companies are SME's, and as long as they are profitable they are guided by something else than just the intention to make more money.
Dear lord, no profit = no business, of course profit is the primary objective. Gog has drm free market not for the gamers but because it's their business, they barely have competion in that area therefore their sucess. What do you think they're trying to do by throwing away their ideals? Why did they come up with the galaxy software?

They want a bigger audience (that equals to? Want to guess? MORE PROFIT!)

Value their customers? Just stop for a minute and think about this, where is the community manager? You know, what better way to VALUE their CUSTOMERS by having a good COMMUNICATION between their customers on the FORUM and GOG. That link? The community manager.
Post edited November 04, 2016 by Cyraxpt
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Cyraxpt: Value their customers? Just stop for a minute and think about this, where is the community manager? You know, what better way to VALUE their CUSTOMERS by having a good COMMUNICATION between their customers on the FORUM and GOG. That link? The community manager.
Hit the nail on the head.
Thanks GOG! Without you, I would not have been able to purchase DRM-free games with good price. Your will allow me to play games, which I was not able to buy and play in my youth. In my youth I could afford to buy 2-4 games a year. GOG you must continue making world DRM free.
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Cyraxpt: Dear lord, no profit = no business, of course profit is the primary objective.
If you're running a business and say our main goal is to make money, its most likely because your business is failing.
Money is of course always an influencing factor, but for most companies it is not the driving factor.

A chef doesn't open a restaurant to make money, he opens it to make food. Yes he sells the food, and must cover costs and make profit, but the potential money was not whet drove him to open the restaurant.

For the vast majority of businesses its success is not measured solely on its profits, though its failure can be measured in its lack of money.

Yes there are companies whose success is solely measured by there profits. Companies that float on the major stock exchanges for example. And while in terms of percentage of wealth they make the majority, in terms of actual numbers of businesses they're are the exception.

Yes I know CDP is floated in the Polish stock exchange, but that's hardly an international market influencer.
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BadDecissions: If I were struck and killed by a car walking to work today, nobody at GOG would care. They do not value you, and that is not a good relationship to try to have with an online store. Just my two cents.
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tinyE: That's true of almost anything but that's why humans have a little thing called courtesy.

Does that mean you never say thank you to anyone?
Do you refuse to tip your waiter because at the end of the day he really doesn't give a shit about you?

Come on, no one is asking you to start sucking anyone's dicks here, just a simple "Thanks".
I... don't tend to give thanks to the stores I buy thing from...

Sure I am courteous and thanks the waiter for bringing me coffee, or the cashier at the groceries store when changing monies - but that's being courteous to the human being giving me the service (or what you want to call it).

But I don't thank the actual store, such as Forbidden Planet or Waterstones, nor do I give thanks to Amazon or Steam or what-ever online shop where there is no actual human contact.... there is no one there to be courteous to.
Amok makes a solid point but I'm not gonna stop with my thank yous to any and all, be they man or machine.
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mechmouse: A chef doesn't open a restaurant to make money, he opens it to make food. Yes he sells the food, and must cover costs and make profit, but the potential money was not whet drove him to open the restaurant.
That's beaufitul and all... But time has passed and he started using cheap ingredients, raise the price of some dishes, constructed a new bar inside the restaurant, stopped asking feedback from his customers, etc. What does that tell you?
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mechmouse: A chef doesn't open a restaurant to make money, he opens it to make food. Yes he sells the food, and must cover costs and make profit, but the potential money was not whet drove him to open the restaurant.
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Cyraxpt: That's beaufitul and all... But time has passed and he started using cheap ingredients, raise the price of some dishes, constructed a new bar inside the restaurant, stopped asking feedback from his customers, etc. What does that tell you?
That he is either the only restaurant in town or will soon be closing down.

There's always a balancing act specially in a competitive market, and money will always influence what you do in business. But it rarely the guiding influence.
While I admit it is odd, we do not run our B&B to make money, and we don't. We make just enough to break even every year and keep it running, which is what we really want to do.
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mechmouse: That he is either the only restaurant in town or will soon be closing down.

There's always a balancing act specially in a competitive market, and money will always influence what you do in business. But it rarely the guiding influence.
But you don't know that, you might be right to some point but you could also be making assumptions when the guy just want to expand his business in order to get more money.
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tinyE: While I admit it is odd, we do not run our B&B to make money, and we don't. We make just enough to break even every year and keep it running, which is what we really want to do.
Its not odd. Not odd in any way.

In terms of the number of business owners, its odd to float your company and be driven by pure profit.
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tinyE: While I admit it is odd, we do not run our B&B to make money, and we don't. We make just enough to break even every year and keep it running, which is what we really want to do.
Did you change your principles? Did you stopped caring about your customer feedback? Because depending of your answers i could see mechmouse point, the same can't be said about gog...
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mechmouse: That he is either the only restaurant in town or will soon be closing down.

There's always a balancing act specially in a competitive market, and money will always influence what you do in business. But it rarely the guiding influence.
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Cyraxpt: But you don't know that, you might be right to some point but you could also be making assumptions when the guy just want to expand his business in order to get more money.
Then he's likely to fail. MOst expand their business, because they want to expand, the extra money is secondary.

I'm not saying thats not his goal, only that is not the normal goal of business owners. He'd be the exception, not the rule. And unless he was an exceptional businessman, he'd likely fail.
Post edited November 04, 2016 by mechmouse
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tinyE: While I admit it is odd, we do not run our B&B to make money, and we don't. We make just enough to break even every year and keep it running, which is what we really want to do.
I knew it! You run the B&B for the customer stories you get to share, and the looks of incredulity that accompany the cries of "That couldn't have happened!"
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tinyE: While I admit it is odd, we do not run our B&B to make money, and we don't. We make just enough to break even every year and keep it running, which is what we really want to do.
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JMich: I knew it! You run the B&B for the customer stories you get to share, and the looks of incredulity that accompany the cries of "That couldn't have happened!"
I probably could write a book about that, but no one would believe most of it. :P