Posted June 09, 2020
high rated
Ok.
Be happy with your new and incredible 0%.
Badbye.
Be happy with your new and incredible 0%.
Badbye.
M3troid
O ultimo Metroid
Registered: Dec 2010
From Brazil
hollunder
Arch Penguin
Registered: Jul 2014
From Austria
Posted June 09, 2020
...
That should not extend to press I think, but I suspect it's simply easier for them to write that it's available on Steam than to do the tiny bit of research required to list other stores.
karnak1
New User
Registered: Feb 2010
From Portugal
Posted June 09, 2020
I'd like to ask an interesting question: what does the Rimworld dev thinks of the balance of selling his game here?
The game was launched on GOG almost 2 years since it was released on steam and it never had any special discount sale. Which makes me think that almost all of the people who bought it on steam will not consider spending 30$ to get it on GOG (thus lowering his profit margin by a lot).
Yet, as far as i know, the dev is very professional about the GOG release, constantly releasing updates for his game here. Assuming that the income from GOG sales is quite low, isn't it still profitable for him, since he's so dedicated to keeping it updated? Makes me think.
The game was launched on GOG almost 2 years since it was released on steam and it never had any special discount sale. Which makes me think that almost all of the people who bought it on steam will not consider spending 30$ to get it on GOG (thus lowering his profit margin by a lot).
Yet, as far as i know, the dev is very professional about the GOG release, constantly releasing updates for his game here. Assuming that the income from GOG sales is quite low, isn't it still profitable for him, since he's so dedicated to keeping it updated? Makes me think.
Ganni1987
'My Rewards' is DRM
Registered: Sep 2011
From Malta
Posted June 09, 2020
There must be something wrong with the dev's workflow. He says it's a lot of effort to maintain it on GOG and tbh I find it quite fishy, the game doesn't get as many frequent updates as some other games do so it's not like he has to release newer patches as much.
PookaMustard
モニカ。モニカだけ。
Registered: Jun 2013
From Other
Swedrami
New User
Registered: Jul 2018
From Germany
Posted June 10, 2020
high rated
Apparently GoG is partly to blame for the comparatively low sales ratio as well:
"GoG ignored my request to release on their platform on launch. They only asked me a while after release.
(Supraland took part) in sales, yes."
Must have been around the time when curation had this turnaround and suddenly decided to re-evaluate formerly rejected submissions like Grimoire: Heralds of the Winged Exemplar.
Supraland's dev should look at it a bit more rationally though - with a 3 months delay chances are that your game won't sell that many copies on GoG and that you maybe might want to lower your expectations accordingly.
Somebody else suggested to maybe put Supraland back on GoG when it's finished receiving updates/DLC and is all patched up. A sort of GOTY edition, if you will. I'd go that route if I were in the dev's place.
toma85: Surprising to read this:
"Going onto GOG I expected maybe something like 10% of Steam, but it's more like 1%. Same with releasing a Linux version. It's all worth so little for us that it's rather annoying to have to do the extra work all the time and carry that weight around. I wouldn't do it again."
from a fellow citizen. In Germany thrift is still considered to be a virtue.
Wer den Pfennig nicht ehrt, ist des Talers nicht wert. (A penny saved is a penny earned.)
1% is still more than 0%.
Lieber den Spatz in der Hand als die Taube auf dem Dach. (A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.)
I am not sure what happened to DavidM since the Unreal Tournament days but this attitude reveals that he sees GOG customers as third class citizens (-> "annoying", "I wouldn't do it again"). This unprofessional behavior has one consequence. I don't support this developer. He can release his games on itch.io, EPIC or whatever. I don't care. I won't buy it. And I frankly don't care whether Steam games can be DRM free or not. And if EPIC decides to do a Supraland or another game from this developer giveaway I won't claim it.
It also shows a problem CD Projekt and GOG have. The lack of advertisement. I've just read a case where someone bought The Witcher 3 on Steam because he didn't know that GOG is part of CD Projekt (YES!). He would have preferred to buy it here on GOG because he could have supported CD Projekt. But it was too late.
GOG's main problem is that people associate PC gaming with Steam. There are many trailers, news, etc. on different gaming sites that only mention Steam although a GOG version of a game exists. They usually post links to the Steam store. I know some people who prefer buying DRM-free games, but they end up buying the Steam versions because they don't know that a GOG version exists. And this is most likely also the problem with the GOG version of Supraland. Amen.
For instance - one would think that immediately reposting @GOGcom's tweet about the RTX 2080 Ti competition on the official Cyberpunk 2077 twitter account would be a good way to bring more attention to GoG and the opportunity to directly support CD Projekt RED by pre-ordering/purchasing Cyberpunk 2077 on GoG... but what is the latest tweet on @CyberpunkGame instead? This.
It's not all bad though - the GoG-supported Escapist Indie Showcase should compensate for a couple of current and future promotional blunders and hopefully shine a big spotlight on GoG in a few days.
"GoG ignored my request to release on their platform on launch. They only asked me a while after release.
(Supraland took part) in sales, yes."
Must have been around the time when curation had this turnaround and suddenly decided to re-evaluate formerly rejected submissions like Grimoire: Heralds of the Winged Exemplar.
Supraland's dev should look at it a bit more rationally though - with a 3 months delay chances are that your game won't sell that many copies on GoG and that you maybe might want to lower your expectations accordingly.
Somebody else suggested to maybe put Supraland back on GoG when it's finished receiving updates/DLC and is all patched up. A sort of GOTY edition, if you will. I'd go that route if I were in the dev's place.
"Going onto GOG I expected maybe something like 10% of Steam, but it's more like 1%. Same with releasing a Linux version. It's all worth so little for us that it's rather annoying to have to do the extra work all the time and carry that weight around. I wouldn't do it again."
from a fellow citizen. In Germany thrift is still considered to be a virtue.
Wer den Pfennig nicht ehrt, ist des Talers nicht wert. (A penny saved is a penny earned.)
1% is still more than 0%.
Lieber den Spatz in der Hand als die Taube auf dem Dach. (A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.)
I am not sure what happened to DavidM since the Unreal Tournament days but this attitude reveals that he sees GOG customers as third class citizens (-> "annoying", "I wouldn't do it again"). This unprofessional behavior has one consequence. I don't support this developer. He can release his games on itch.io, EPIC or whatever. I don't care. I won't buy it. And I frankly don't care whether Steam games can be DRM free or not. And if EPIC decides to do a Supraland or another game from this developer giveaway I won't claim it.
It also shows a problem CD Projekt and GOG have. The lack of advertisement. I've just read a case where someone bought The Witcher 3 on Steam because he didn't know that GOG is part of CD Projekt (YES!). He would have preferred to buy it here on GOG because he could have supported CD Projekt. But it was too late.
GOG's main problem is that people associate PC gaming with Steam. There are many trailers, news, etc. on different gaming sites that only mention Steam although a GOG version of a game exists. They usually post links to the Steam store. I know some people who prefer buying DRM-free games, but they end up buying the Steam versions because they don't know that a GOG version exists. And this is most likely also the problem with the GOG version of Supraland.
For instance - one would think that immediately reposting @GOGcom's tweet about the RTX 2080 Ti competition on the official Cyberpunk 2077 twitter account would be a good way to bring more attention to GoG and the opportunity to directly support CD Projekt RED by pre-ordering/purchasing Cyberpunk 2077 on GoG... but what is the latest tweet on @CyberpunkGame instead? This.
It's not all bad though - the GoG-supported Escapist Indie Showcase should compensate for a couple of current and future promotional blunders and hopefully shine a big spotlight on GoG in a few days.
Skuatoi
New User
Registered: Apr 2012
From United States
Posted June 10, 2020
Glad I decided to hold off on purchasing this. Unfortunately this will make me even more weary of buying new releases on GOG in the future.
Post edited June 10, 2020 by PLASMA97
Loger13
Bring TDU and NFS (any part) here!
Registered: Jun 2013
From Other
Posted June 10, 2020
I need to say, this is just an awesome game that I was waiting here and which I bought immediately upon release. It’s a pity to read this now.
On the other hand, since the developer does not need my money, I will regard it this way: I can take future versions of the game (and the second part, which is planned) without paying money.
toma85: GOG's main problem is that people associate PC gaming with Steam. There are many trailers, news, etc. on different gaming sites that only mention Steam although a GOG version of a game exists. They usually post links to the Steam store. I know some people who prefer buying DRM-free games, but they end up buying the Steam versions because they don't know that a GOG version exists. And this is most likely also the problem with the GOG version of Supraland. GOG is itself partly to blame for this situation.
Any upcoming game that will be released in Steam is always written - "it will be released in Steam".
But GOG is constantly hiding upcoming game releases. As a result, we learn about the release of the game here often on the day of its release here.
When people do not know that the game will be released here, they often do not wait for it here, but buy it in other stores. And GOG is losing potential purchases. This is a natural result of this local cosplay of Polish Intelligence.
Soviet KGB, USA's CIA, Israeli MOSSAD, the Chinese (which no one knows the name of, except the Chinese themselves) and Polish GOG are the most secretive intelligence services. And that would be funny if it weren’t so sad.
On the other hand, since the developer does not need my money, I will regard it this way: I can take future versions of the game (and the second part, which is planned) without paying money.
Any upcoming game that will be released in Steam is always written - "it will be released in Steam".
But GOG is constantly hiding upcoming game releases. As a result, we learn about the release of the game here often on the day of its release here.
When people do not know that the game will be released here, they often do not wait for it here, but buy it in other stores. And GOG is losing potential purchases. This is a natural result of this local cosplay of Polish Intelligence.
Soviet KGB, USA's CIA, Israeli MOSSAD, the Chinese (which no one knows the name of, except the Chinese themselves) and Polish GOG are the most secretive intelligence services. And that would be funny if it weren’t so sad.
Post edited June 10, 2020 by Loger13
Alexim
Dark Lord of the Sith
Registered: Mar 2015
From Italy
Posted June 10, 2020
It's not all bad though - the GoG-supported Escapist Indie Showcase should compensate for a couple of current and future promotional blunders and hopefully shine a big spotlight on GoG in a few days.
CDPR hasn't yet added GOG achievements to The Witcher 2. All of Geralt's cameos in other games (Monster Hunter, Soul Calibur, Daemon X Machina) have never snatched a release on GOG. Kojima's passage to CDPR's QG wasn't used to convince him to release Death Stranding on GOG. And many other cases where they seem at best to ignore each other instead of supporting each other.
mqstout
Pittsburgh cis-gay-male
Registered: Jun 2010
From United States
Posted June 10, 2020
high rated
CDPR hasn't yet added GOG achievements to The Witcher 2. All of Geralt's cameos in other games (Monster Hunter, Soul Calibur, Daemon X Machina) have never snatched a release on GOG. Kojima's passage to CDPR's QG wasn't used to convince him to release Death Stranding on GOG. And many other cases where they seem at best to ignore each other instead of supporting each other.
Lone_Scout
Argy "the cook" - halfling
Registered: Aug 2014
From Spain
Posted June 10, 2020
Really?
Well, good riddance then...
Well, good riddance then...
Valdasaar
New User
Registered: Jun 2014
From Austria
Posted June 10, 2020
have I understood that correctly
The three month delay came about because gog said no?
The three month delay came about because gog said no?
Swedrami
New User
Registered: Jul 2018
From Germany
Valdasaar
New User
Registered: Jun 2014
From Austria
Posted June 10, 2020
I'm sorry for the developer
For me, the question arises how seriously you can still take hand-picked game selection when you see which * works * appear on GoG.
This is not going to be GoG bashing, it has been getting more and more difficult for me to see only the positive things about GoG lately.
For me, the question arises how seriously you can still take hand-picked game selection when you see which * works * appear on GoG.
This is not going to be GoG bashing, it has been getting more and more difficult for me to see only the positive things about GoG lately.
Vakudaka
New User
Registered: Dec 2019
From United States
Posted June 10, 2020
Too bad, I was thinking of buying it until I saw there was no discount during the sale