I dont watch:
1) Movies with Will Smith
2) Movies that change race/sex/age of the character using "it's not important" explanation.

So I'm definitely skipping this one.

He's silly because he uses a variation on the frog and the scorpion, and it never changes.

People get hurt, people get killed, he saves some, loses some, gets the bad guy, bad guy comes back, it starts over.

I get that status quo is required in many cases to keep people reading comics, but it's still silly.
Looking forward to seeing how far they push it with Daredevil. If things work out well, the Punisher could end up with their own series, at least.

It's a bit sad thinking that the Punisher movie starring Dolph Lundgren is still the best overall.
The actor in Warzone was quite good, but the movie itself wasn't the greatest.
Three words that stand for a 50 foot tall red flag - murderous parkour gang.

I have troubles imagining WIll Smith as assassin type of character after his previous roles and Joker's look doesn't sit well with me but I am still curious about this movie. Probably the most of all upcoming superhero movies even though I only know the well-known Batman characters out of them (Harley, Mr. J, Croc, Deadshot).

Is anything known about what the plot and antagonist in this movie is supposed to be?

If anything, the silly part is the villains always escaping the prison/arkham, which is sort of a meta requirement- it's either that, or we don't get to use an interesting character ever again. It has little to do with Batman as a character.

In any case, Batman's motivations for his "no killing" pollicy have in fact been explored a number of times, and are strongly intertwined with his origin. Now, one can argue whether he is "right" or "wrong", and if he is being rational, but it's definately not silly. In fact it is one of the more interesting aspects of Batman, that despite being often seen as the more brutal and using more questionable methods than other heroes, he is in fact fact far more unwavering in his moral code whatever the situation than the others, and also capable of great compassion, even towards his bitter enemies. If all that was to be removed, we'd be left with a very bland vigilante guy.

So I think we're better off silly ;)


The Joker, most likely. The best guess right now is that he is up to something really big, and Waller for whatever reason need him stopped off the record. With Waller there is always something more going on, some hidden agenda, so hell knows what the actual "plot within plot" might turn out to be.

Well Will Smith was going to be Django ;)

Can the Cara girl who plays enchantress even act? She only got that role because of her looks.

Too many characters. Avengers had a lot of characters too, but each one was charismatic enough to be able to pull it off and get equal screen time. Not really hyped about the movie.

Will smith as deadshot and jared leto as joker are probably going to be the highlights of the movie. Rest of the characters would just .....be there.

I am sure most people will be looking forward to the Ben Affleck/Batman or "Befman" cameo.

Casting Will Smith as Deadshot is like if they had cast the guy who does voiceovers for Outback Steakhouse as Captain Boomerang. He's just too scrawny, and has played the hero so many times that he's not very believable as a villain. Was Idris Elba busy or something? He would have made an amazing Deadshot.

It's just disappointing since they got so much of the other casting so right. Margot Robbie was born to play Harley Quinn, and the person they have playing Waller is also perfect.

I think that would have been even further off the mark. Maybe that's just the kind of roles he gets, but he's always super serious, and Deadshot has a sense of humor. He's not Deadpool, but still. I was thinking more along the lines of Josh Brolin.

Relevant. (Make sure and read the alt text on the images, too. ;) )

Probably just the roles he gets. He can definitely be funny.

I'm only really familiar with Deadshot from Assault on Arkham (and Arkham Origins, I guess), but he seemed like a serious character with occasional bits of unexpected levity, which is why I think Elba would work so well in the role. I suppose it's just a pointless hypothetical now, though. I just can't reconcile Smith's Deadshot with his roles in everything else. My brain can't make that leap.

Wow. That's a lot of text to be almost all wrong. Basically "let's write Batman up as an escapist power fantasy, and then ignore some of the best comics written about him in the last three decades or so".

I mean, the guy does make some good points, but he completely ignores Batman as a character. He treats him as a blank slate for an escapist fantasy, and that's just not what Batman is, not for decades now.

Will Smith as Deadshot? Someone definitely started a joke.

To be fair, Part 2 does deal with that a little. But I wasn't linking to the article because I agree or disagree; I merely find the examination and discussion interesting. (Not a comic fan myself, anyway. : ) )

He was confirmed as Deadshot long ago.
Also Harley Quinn in this movie screwed her appearance in Arrow TV series.
Whatever role she would’ve played on Arrow likely would’ve been as part of the Suicide Squad or at least connected to A.R.G.U.S.
But since Arrow's Deadshot episodes were short earlier than this movie post production so WB couldn't screw his part.
Although the Arrow's last episode with Deadshot in which he died (or presumed dead) was due to post production of Suicide Squad.

Here is a teaser of Harley Quinn from Arrow.