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sanscript: 200$ (about 169 Euro)
https://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-Radeon-5500-5500XT-8GBD6-DH/dp/B0861BMDCL

And just for future proofing, no matter what card you choose:
https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/311400-amd-declares-4gb-of-gpu-vram-not-enough-for-todays-games

There isn't much difference up to 5500 XT (seems to run cooler though than 570), but if you get a 5500XT 8BG cheap then go for it... in case you one day decide to play something heavier than adventure games and newer than Witcher 3.

I still have my RX480 and was at first thinking of 5500XT, but personally I'm going to wait until 5600/5700 get cheaper at least.
Will RX480 be enough for 60 FPS in Cyberpunk, though?
RX 570 or RX 580 with 8 GBs should cost around 200€ (and there seems to be plenty of them on Skroutz.gr, albeit not necessarily on discount at the moment). That RX 5500 XT you saw is about as powerful as a RX 580, along with it having less of a strain on your PSU.

All three should be good enough for older games and should be minimum or a step above for newer ones such as Cyberpunk 2077.
Post edited November 24, 2020 by Grargar
Just get the Sapphire Radeon RX 5500 XT Pulse 8 GB.

I'll just leave these here:

AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 4GB vs. 8GB or the youtube video.

TechPowerUp Review Database for RX 5500 XT

Radeon RX 5500 XT Specs and Relative Performance
Post edited November 25, 2020 by ariaspi
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Grargar: RX 570 or RX 580 with 8 GBs should cost around 200€
That's roughly what I paid for the RX480 4 years ago, around this time.
200 Euro seems extortionate for a 570/80. They're not that much more in New Zealand dollars, and the exchange rate is near 2:1.

5500XT is typically a bad value for money card unfortunately. Not its fault, it's a 7nm TSMC based chip and that node is very expensive at the moment, since it's the only reliable 7nm class process it's very in demand for other higher value products. Its performance competitors in the 570/80 and 1650/S (or is it Ti? nVidia and their inconsistent naming schemes...) or 1660 are still on cheap TSMC/ GloFo 16/14 nm class nodes with bulk availability instead.
Idk what the situation is elsewhere in the world but availability of 580 seems very poor here. The store I usually buy from only has one make of RX 580 in the catalog (none in stock and no delivery time estimate!), and that's 245 EUR.. (still significantly cheaper than what my RX 480 was in 2017)
Post edited November 25, 2020 by clarry
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Grargar: RX 570 or RX 580 with 8 GBs should cost around 200€ (and there seems to be plenty of them on Skroutz.gr, albeit not necessarily on discount at the moment). That RX 5500 XT you saw is about as powerful as a RX 580, along with it having less of a strain on your PSU.

All three should be good enough for older games and should be minimum or a step above for newer ones such as Cyberpunk 2077.
Yep, I saw these already - those prices... :/

As for Cyberpunk, well, I couldn't care less as I don't play FPS games :)

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Phasmid: 200 Euro seems extortionate for a 570/80. They're not that much more in New Zealand dollars, and the exchange rate is near 2:1.

5500XT is typically a bad value for money card unfortunately. Not its fault, it's a 7nm TSMC based chip and that node is very expensive at the moment, since it's the only reliable 7nm class process it's very in demand for other higher value products. Its performance competitors in the 570/80 and 1650/S (or is it Ti? nVidia and their inconsistent naming schemes...) or 1660 are still on cheap TSMC/ GloFo 16/14 nm class nodes with bulk availability instead.
I thought so as well. So would you suggest that I drop the "support AMD" mindset and start looking for Nvidia deals as well? (e.g. the 1650)
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clarry: Idk what the situation is elsewhere in the world but availability of 580 seems very poor here. The store I usually buy from only has one make of RX 580 in the catalog (none in stock and no delivery time estimate!), and that's 245 EUR.. (still significantly cheaper than what my RX 480 was in 2017)
It's the same here, more or less (depends on the store as well). I think I read somewhere that these cards (570/580) almost disappeared due to being crypto-minining friendly (or something like that).
Post edited November 25, 2020 by Panaias
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Panaias: I'm not committed to "buying a RX570 no matter what", so if you have any other suggestions (preferably AMD) in the price range up to 150 euros then please share.
No, I still think RX570 is the best under 150 Euro and based on what you play, but I see it might be hopeless locally.

170USD (143 euro)
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Radeon-Gaming-Graphics-ROG-STRIX-RX570-O8G-GAMING
180USD (151.5 euro)
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-RX-570-ARMOR-8G/dp/B076Y93L8F

Yea, the 5500 seems like a good card since it's comparative to x80 but the price is a little too high for a 8GB version. Perhaps we'll see a christmas deal...

Locally it's the same her for the 580 (and 570) card. With the exception of pre-built computers, I find only one to 245 Euro. And the worst part is I have to pay a ransom of 80USD for getting it into Norway from Amazon! Ah, I hate the new import rules...
Post edited November 25, 2020 by sanscript
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Panaias: Yep, I saw these already - those prices... :/

As for Cyberpunk, well, I couldn't care less as I don't play FPS games :)
Well, you did mention friends and family wanting to play Witcher 3, so maybe they would have also wanted to play Cyberpunk. But my point was mostly about games as demanding as Cyberpunk instead of the game itself.

If the idea of paying about 200 bucks for a card doesn't sit well with you, and you'd rather weather the storm till you get a new PC, you could try a more modest option like GTX 1050 TI 4 GB or GTX 1650 4 GB, which are currently available on e-shop.gr with a discounted price (128 and 143 Euros respectively).

Alternatively, you could also keep an eye on the prices of a GTX 1650 Super or a GTX 1660 and see if they fall to an acceptable price level for you (although the price of the latter usually hovers around 250).
Post edited November 25, 2020 by Grargar
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Grargar: Well, you did mention friends and family wanting to play Witcher 3, so maybe they would have also wanted to play Cyberpunk. But my point was mostly about games as demanding as Cyberpunk instead of the game itself.
You're right, I should rephrase that. I meant that running well games like Cyberpunk at high detail are not a prerequisite for choosing a new card. If it could handle said game at 720p with low-to-mid detail it would be more than enough, although not a requirement. (By the way, it's funny that noone from the people close to me has an interest in Cyberpunk xD so I guess we're good)

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Grargar: If the idea of paying about 200 bucks for a card doesn't sit well with you, and you'd rather weather the storm till you get a new PC, you could try a more modest option like GTX 1050 TI 4 GB or GTX 1650 4 GB, which are currently available on e-shop.gr with a discounted price (128 and 143 Euros respectively).

Alternatively, you could also keep an eye on the prices of a GTX 1650 Super or a GTX 1660 and see if they fall to an acceptable price level for you (although the price of the latter usually hovers around 250).
Thanks for the info on those cards, I will check out the deals for sure.
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Panaias: I thought so as well. So would you suggest that I drop the "support AMD" mindset and start looking for Nvidia deals as well? (e.g. the 1650)
If one of your criteria is Linux support then you kind of have to go AMD unless nVidia is way cheaper and any of the options should be fine for your purposes. It's just fundamentally a bad time to be buying a graphics card unfortunately, hence the awful supply issues nVidia and AMD have with their recent launches. I'm in New Zealand so as far away from Europe as possible and just found the pricing to be weird considering how it is here and in the US.

(A lot of it's covid related, too many ships and containers in the wrong places, and less air freight since international flying is restricted means the whole supply chain is in a mess)
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Panaias: I thought so as well. So would you suggest that I drop the "support AMD" mindset and start looking for Nvidia deals as well? (e.g. the 1650)
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Phasmid: If one of your criteria is Linux support then you kind of have to go AMD unless nVidia is way cheaper and any of the options should be fine for your purposes. It's just fundamentally a bad time to be buying a graphics card unfortunately, hence the awful supply issues nVidia and AMD have with their recent launches. I'm in New Zealand so as far away from Europe as possible and just found the pricing to be weird considering how it is here and in the US.

(A lot of it's covid related, too many ships and containers in the wrong places, and less air freight since international flying is restricted means the whole supply chain is in a mess)
Yes, I thought so as well.

To be honest, it's not that I urgently have to buy a new card now, but more like I've managed to gather a small budget for such upgrades (GPU and RAM mostly). I can wait for sure, but all replies are totally appreciated because you all pointed me towards some direction.

As for linux, it's not my priority. I use windows as my main OS, not only for gaming purposes but development too. I'd like to make the move to linux, but haven't found an IDE for linux that is as competent as Visual Studio - but this is a topic for another discussion.
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Panaias: but haven't found an IDE for linux that is as competent as Visual Studio - but this is a topic for another discussion.
It kind of depends on your programming language of choice, but I'm quite fond of Eclipse and have been using it on Linux for years now. Replied here in case I won't spot the other topic :).
Post edited November 26, 2020 by WinterSnowfall
Get either a 1650 super, a 1660, a 1660 super or a cheap RX 580 if you can find a good deal.

1650 super is the best price/performance card right now "on paper", but I know in some places the 1660 is priced very similarly. If this is the case, of course get the 1660.
If you're considering Linux stability as a bonus I'd recommend watching this video: "Linux Users Deserve Better From AMD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwD8JnbY9EA".

On a side note, have you considered buying a used card? There might be a few people around your area trying to buy the new Nvidia and AMD cards and selling their current ones. Taking into account that the budget-oriented cards launching next year should be very superior to the current ones, you might be able to find some decent and well maintained cards for an affordable price (more so next year I'd assume).

But if you want to buy new and stay on budget my recommendations would be (from better performing to worse) 1660 Super or 5500XT (the 1660 probably isn't worth it and the 1660 Ti is probably too expensive), 1650 Super, or RX 570. The 1660 Super and the RX 570 should be the better value choices overall although that depends on your regional pricing.

Hope it helps!
Post edited November 26, 2020 by Punington