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I booted up my copy of Phoenix Point for the first time and they demanded I read and agree to the EULA immediately, so I was skimming through it and saw that they owned my game, and that they did not take any responsibility for it. last time i read a EULA they said that the game was their intellectual property, which is fair. this is the first time i read that they owned the thing I had paid for. on top of that if they own something then legally they are almost always responsible for it (hence why all of the older EULAs i have read did not state they owned the product). there have been some AAA EULAs that have stated that they owned the intellectual property of everything you did while playing the game, which is pretty stupid. heck the Epic game store had an EULA that stated that all software on your computer was theirs, which is stupid enough to never install that. it is pretty questionable that any of a EULA is legal due to having to pay for the product first before being told what legal constraints you have to follow (if we compare it to buying a house or car then it definitely wouldn't be legal to do that).

so that got me wondering what EULAs have you read that have really stupid stuff?
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jamoecw: I booted up my copy of Phoenix Point for the first time and they demanded I read and agree to the EULA immediately, so I was skimming through it and saw that they owned my game, and that they did not take any responsibility for it. last time i read a EULA they said that the game was their intellectual property, which is fair. this is the first time i read that they owned the thing I had paid for. on top of that if they own something then legally they are almost always responsible for it (hence why all of the older EULAs i have read did not state they owned the product). there have been some AAA EULAs that have stated that they owned the intellectual property of everything you did while playing the game, which is pretty stupid. heck the Epic game store had an EULA that stated that all software on your computer was theirs, which is stupid enough to never install that. it is pretty questionable that any of a EULA is legal due to having to pay for the product first before being told what legal constraints you have to follow (if we compare it to buying a house or car then it definitely wouldn't be legal to do that).

so that got me wondering what EULAs have you read that have really stupid stuff?
You realize all this shit is standard issue, anymore, right?

Have a look, though.
Yeah, there's a reason why many EULAs are considered null and unenforceable in many countries.
eula is for tyrants who think they can make their own laws
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Darvond: Yeah, there's a reason why many EULAs are considered null and unenforceable in many countries.
Yes, in Germany most EULA aren't even worth the bytes they are written with. Any EULA that is presented to you after you already bought the product is automatically void. To have a chance of validity, the EULA would have to be presented and accepted before the purchase - and even then only the parts that don't collide with other laws (like trade regulations) may be enforcable.
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Darvond: Yeah, there's a reason why many EULAs are considered null and unenforceable in many countries.
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Lifthrasil: Yes, in Germany most EULA aren't even worth the bytes they are written with. Any EULA that is presented to you after you already bought the product is automatically void. To have a chance of validity, the EULA would have to be presented and accepted before the purchase - and even then only the parts that don't collide with other laws (like trade regulations) may be enforcable.
good, we are just end users and such these companies shouldn't even make any limits to what and how we can use the purchased products
"By breaking the shrink-wrap you are bound by the terms of this EULA" - A EULA stored on a disc inside a box which can only be read by breaking the shrink wrap.

^ As Lifthrasil said, junk like this has always been completely legally unenforceable.
https://xkcd.com/501/
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BrianSim: "By breaking the shrink-wrap you are bound by the terms of this EULA" - A EULA stored on a disc inside a box which can only be read by breaking the shrink wrap.

^ As Lifthrasil said, junk like this has always been completely legally unenforceable.
I remember Microsoft Windows also came with a strange clause that they could cut you off for whatever reason they feel or something like that. I remember asking people how they though that would go if they tried to blackmail the US government.