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foad01: One or two games are broken and now the whole preservation program is a failure and it even needs to be stopped. It is an exaggeration. It is not helpful for anyone here. Neither GOG nor other GOG customers are benefiting from this hysteria.
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rjbuffchix: Failure exists in both a "yes/no" context and on a spectrum, dependent on a person's perspective.

If we take the Preservation Program rhetoric at face value, I can see where someone with the "yes/no" approach would conclude it is already a failure, as users point out objective reasons why various updates aren't the best/best-working versions of the respective games. So if the Program promised something and didn't deliver, it would be considered failure. For me, it makes more sense to adopt the spectrum view with the Preservation Program. I also believe not enough time has passed to make a conclusion of broad failure, or success, for that matter. There have been hits and misses. Releases like Dino Crisis 1 and 2, new update to Silent Hill 4 making it the best version anywhere? Mega-hit successes! Update to Dragon Age: Origins and F.E.A.R....ah, not getting a success vibe from what I'm seeing.

One reasonable observation though, is that the micro-level "failures" we have seen with the Preservation Program, gives cause for concern at a macro level for GOG as a storefront going forward. From what we outsiders know, GOG has limited resources and very minimal profit. The Preservation Program is looking like it may be another instance of GOG "biting off more than it can chew". That said, I think it is a good gamble in this particular instance, because so much of GOG's identity is intertwined with "old games." I would much rather they pour resources into this than, for example, Galaxy. I would just hope the resources poured into it give us more Silent Hill 4 type updates and less Dragon Age: Origins type updates. Over time I think that could rebuild confidence and be beneficial for GOG.

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The whole point has been mentioned by Yigdboz before. We have seen the releases of Resident Evil 1-3, Dino Crisis 1-2 and Alpha Protocol. It is not a coincidence that they are all part of the Preservation Program. The new Dreamlist is part of it. As they mentioned in interviews they convinced the copyright holders to release the games on GOG because they showed them that people still love these games. It is also not a coincidence that they are advertising certain Dreamlist entries on social media. If we will see Breath of Fire IV here on GOG you will see the point of both, the preservation program and the Dreamlist. I think it is their new attempt to do something about the stuck process of releasing older games here. Don't get me wrong here. I am not saying they shouldn't fix problems with their updates. These things happen as they happen with every single Windows update.

I tested it myself now. I downloaded the new installers for Dragon Age Origins. I installed it. And? Everything works just fine. I switched the resolution to 1920x1080 and turned on the subtitles. That's all I did. It is a Intel i5-1135G7 notebook with 8 GB and Win 11.
Post edited March 22, 2025 by foad01
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foad01: And which is your original account here?

I saw your posts in the news threads. You are obviously using an alt account to spread your fairy tales. Of course, you have unreleased mods on your systems. LOL. You are not interested in the preservation program or any community efforts. You are just shitposting. Your post here is the proof. Could it be that you are coming from a certain Discord server?
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MerylUnlocked: Did my last post finally rattled the cages? I wonder why...

I care more about preservation than you can understand. That is a fact you can verify from the fairy tales I’ve been spreading. Go ahead, start digging.
I see. It is what I assumed. You are another alt on the loose and most likely you are coming from a certain Discord server. Could it be that you are using a VPN? :D
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foad01: ...
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MerylUnlocked: ...
I must ask politely please resolve any issues you guys have with one another on private and not on this thread as the objective of this thread and the "eye-catchy" name is to take attention from GOG Staff of the matter and the issue.

I understand that the issue isn't with all games, but that it is happening with some people, even if it doesn't happened with you, many users already reported that they've lost their saves, mods had broke, and in many cases games do not even launch, as you can see on the sources list I've listed on the OP, the second post and the reference thread I've created last year pointing out to the problem in a much more polite and 'balanced' manner.

Here, if you've not seen it:

"Preservation" Program Killing Offline Installers Preservation
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/preservation_program_killing_offline_installers_preservation/page1

The point is not that they're working hard to bring beloved series to here, nor that its wrong for them to use this as marketing.
The point is simple and direct:


While all of this is amazing for GOG and we users do love it, it does not exclude the problems the Program currently have:

- Some games have been broken completely or partially after being added to the Preservation Program;
- Some games have reported issues after being added to the Preservation Program that have not been taken care of for months and users still have no "TBA" official solution;
- Some games have their compatibility with mods completely broken after being added to the Preservation Program;
- Some games are not working on other devices such as Steam Deck after being added to the Preservation Program when they were before;
- Some games had unique Offline Installers that are now lost since Offline Installers have no "Rollback feature" as Galaxy does, and both versions are many times different

You can disagree with the title of the thread, even I do, as I said: 'eye-catchy', but its still true.
If you deny my approach to the problem this time, read, again, my previous thread about it and check the sources and posts on sources about the issue.

GOG has been my favourite store for 5 years now and I'm really worried some beloved games might be at risk.
No, the problem isn't only Dragon Age Origins. The warning is explained already:

What if they break some little game no one really care as much as Dragon Age Origins and there's not enough fuss about it for them to fix it? Well, guess what, that game on GOG will be officially with no solution for a fix.
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.Keys: I must ask politely please resolve any issues you guys have with one another on private and not on this thread as the objective of this thread and the "eye-catchy" name is to take attention from GOG Staff of the matter and the issue.

No, the problem isn't only Dragon Age Origins. The warning is explained already:

What if they break some little game no one really care as much as Dragon Age Origins and there's not enough fuss about it for them to fix it? Well, guess what, that game on GOG will be officially with no solution for a fix.
Would have liked to respond but I’ll refrain. Apologies.

In this other thread: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/so_about_the_gog_preservation_program

I mentioned that the last build of Legacy of Kain: Defiance is now playing with issues on Windows 7. Has this already been reported? I might have missed it.

Does anyone care to verify if this is only occurring on my system or has the last build caused this globally?
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.Keys: I must ask politely please resolve any issues you guys have with one another on private and not on this thread as the objective of this thread and the "eye-catchy" name is to take attention from GOG Staff of the matter and the issue.

No, the problem isn't only Dragon Age Origins. The warning is explained already:

What if they break some little game no one really care as much as Dragon Age Origins and there's not enough fuss about it for them to fix it? Well, guess what, that game on GOG will be officially with no solution for a fix.
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MerylUnlocked: Would have liked to respond but I’ll refrain. Apologies.

In this other thread: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/so_about_the_gog_preservation_program

I mentioned that the last build of Legacy of Kain: Defiance is now playing with issues on Windows 7. Has this already been reported? I might have missed it.

Does anyone care to verify if this is only occurring on my system or has the last build caused this globally?
Thank you.

Unfortunately Im not on Windows 7 so I can't test it myself, but to add to the trouble, unfortunately, it makes sense as the Preservation Program is not aiming to preserve games on older systems, but on Windows 10 and above, that is... until Windows 10 is also discontinued and Windows 12 turns out to be a full online, personalized ads-based, data harvesting mess of a system.

At least with the older builds you guys could work together to make games work or find long time solutions, since Windows 7 has been considered the best Windows since XP.
Now with the Preservation Program builds the community will need to find a bunch of new fixes to the problems that rise up, that is, to the ones that might break after being added to the program.

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It just reminded me, it might help you:
If you can use Galaxy, try using the rollback feature on Galaxy to install a pre-preservation program build and test it.
If have access to a Linux machine, you can use the amazing lgogdownloader by @sude to download older builds using its commands. Its fairly easy, but you must guide yourself through the CLI and manual (which is quite easy to understand with enough patience.).

That's actually what I did to download pre-preservation program builds of some of my games to preserve them for me offline, 7zip'd them and thats it. Im not risking it, not until GOG gives an official answer on the matter stating that they're taking a look into all the games affected. I do hope they do that though, as GOG is my main gaming store.
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MerylUnlocked: Would have liked to respond but I’ll refrain. Apologies.

In this other thread: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/so_about_the_gog_preservation_program

I mentioned that the last build of Legacy of Kain: Defiance is now playing with issues on Windows 7. Has this already been reported? I might have missed it.

Does anyone care to verify if this is only occurring on my system or has the last build caused this globally?
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.Keys: Thank you.

Unfortunately Im not on Windows 7 so I can't test it myself, but to add to the trouble, unfortunately, it makes sense as the Preservation Program is not aiming to preserve games on older systems, but on Windows 10 and above, that is... until Windows 10 is also discontinued and Windows 12 turns out to be a full online, personalized ads-based, data harvesting mess of a system.

At least with the older builds you guys could work together to make games work or find long time solutions, since Windows 7 has been considered the best Windows since XP.
Now with the Preservation Program builds the community will need to find a bunch of new fixes to the problems that rise up, that is, to the ones that might break after being added to the program.

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It just reminded me, it might help you:
If you can use Galaxy, try using the rollback feature on Galaxy to install a pre-preservation program build and test it.
If have access to a Linux machine, you can use the amazing lgogdownloader by @sude to download older builds using its commands. Its fairly easy, but you must guide yourself through the CLI and manual (which is quite easy to understand with enough patience.).

That's actually what I did to download pre-preservation program builds of some of my games to preserve them for me offline, 7zip'd them and thats it. Im not risking it, not until GOG gives an official answer on the matter stating that they're taking a look into all the games affected. I do hope they do that though, as GOG is my main gaming store.
Thank you on the clarification. I have not seen this behavior with last builds of other “preserved” games on my Windows 7 system, so I thought that was odd. The game still stutters with all FMVs.

I still have the previous build in my possession and that one is fine, but thank you for taking the time to provide some assistance with this issue.
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.Keys: - Some games have their compatibility with mods completely broken after being added to the Preservation Program;
- Some games are not working on other devices such as Steam Deck after being added to the Preservation Program when they were before;
I think I don't go out on a limb to claim that the these two are definitely not within GOG's area of responsibility to fix or to maintain, especially the second one.
In regards to ensuring mod compatibility GOG's leeway may actually be stifled by the developers and/or publishers of the games in question, simply because they don't like their games to be fucked around with in any way, shape or form, period. Even if it would benefit those games to have third party mods to be baked into the GOG build, for instance.
Post edited March 22, 2025 by JomVanFliet
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kotcore: Fallout 2 is the only update I have a slight issue with, because the prior version let you choose several resolutions; the new update doesn't seem to have that option anymore.
I can tell you what is wrong with the Fallout 2 since I manage to test it a little. In Galaxy they set the wrong exe as the main executable - it starts fallout2.exe which is wrong. This starts the game without the hi-res patch (the classic version) - this is why u don't see the resoulution options. The proper exe to start is Fallout2Launcher.exe - this will start the game the way it used to. They need to fix this! I reported it in the original preservation thread - I hope they saw it there. The game also now have 2 hi-res patches (modes) active at the same time so one needs to be disabled - you will get a conflict message at the start every time
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.Keys: - Some games have their compatibility with mods completely broken after being added to the Preservation Program;
- Some games are not working on other devices such as Steam Deck after being added to the Preservation Program when they were before;
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JomVanFliet: I think I don't go out on a limb to claim that the these two are definitely not within GOG's area of responsibility to fix or to maintain, especially the second one.
In regards to ensuring mod compatibility GOG's leeway may actually be stifled by the developers and/or publishers of the games in question, simply because they don't like their games to be fucked around with in any way, shape or form, period. Even if it would benefit the games to have third party mods to be backed into the GOG build.
I agree with you, its not, and its not in us to ask them too. It would be unfair.

The thing is:
They were working before being added to the Preservation Program and are not anymore.
We have to add to this reasoning that these are some very old games and some of these mods are not even being worked on anymore - which means, by extension, that if somehow GOG's Preservation Program breaks an old game while "fixing" what was actually 'not broken', then reverting or 're-fixing' their 'fix' that broke these games, some mods will not work anymore and will not be able to be made to work because they were made to work with the original GOG builds.
I think I've overcomplicated this last sentence, but I hope my point was clear. :P
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rjbuffchix: Would anyone be complaining about the Preservation Program if it was instead done by adding optional patch installers to our libraries, while keeping the "old" version of the main game offline installers? That way, we could choose to just not update, and someone who buys Dragon Age: Origins an hour from now would be buying an "old" offline installer they could access regardless of whether they then downloaded the hypothetical "Preservation Patch" or not.
I already stated what I think they should have done with Dragon Age: Origin -

Do a rollback to the last version before the preservation program. This should have been done for both offline installers AND Galaxy users. It's actually worse for Galaxy users. Because I don't use Galaxy, I can just install the offline installer that I had already downloaded, play the game, and be happy.

Galaxy will keep trying to update your games, which is one of the things I don't like about it. Yes, I am well aware of that menu option to not automatically update. My experience is that Galaxy ignores this and still automatically updates anyway.

If GOG did a rollback, there would be confidence that if the Preservation Program release broke a game for everyone, they would not stubbornly continue with that release as the best release. They'd go back to the prior build that was actually working.

Also Preservation Program inclusion should be based on what is actually generating a significant amount of tech support emails. If it isn't generating a significant amount of support emails, GOG should recognize that it isn't broken and don't fix it.
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More people should be pushing this line:-

if the preservation program has broken your game, ask for a refund.
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lazydog: More people should be pushing this line:-

if the preservation program has broken your game, ask for a refund.
For once I agree with you. If you're game is broken because GOG.
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Given the less than stellar job GOG's preservation team is currently doing, maybe just this once they can offer the last pre-preservation (offline) version as extras so we can backtrack if there's problems? (and no, this should not be limited just to users of your "optional" client).

Seriously GOG, you have to admit that updating the games yourselves to patch to newer systems is far more problematic for you than you expected. Time to offer us the old version as well until you're absolutely certain the new patch version your team released isn't a problem for a lot of users.
Post edited March 23, 2025 by Braggadar
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Braggadar: Given the less than stellar job GOG's preservation team is currently doing, maybe just this once they can offer the last pre-preservation (offline) version as extras so we can backtrack if there's problems? (and no, this should not be limited just to users of your "optional" client).

Seriously GOG, you have to admit that updating the games yourselves to patch to newer systems is far more problematic for you than you expected. Time to offer us the old version as well until you're absolutely certain the new patch version your team released isn't a problem for a lot of users.
Here here! I second that request! Let's take Silent Hill 4 for another example. I was playing it flawlessly with the SH4 patch from pcgamingwiki previously. The new preservation program offline installers make that patch not work correctly anymore because GOG actually did fix some issues that interferes with the patch. Needless to say, i want that older version pre-preservation program. The mod from Pcgamingwiki is 10x better! I wish GOG would just leave things alone since they lack the comptence.
Post edited March 23, 2025 by RizzoCuoco
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Alternatively they could release the preservation version only as a patch rather than a full download release.

That way they might save a little space if it's just a fiddle of the main executable etc, and both customers can choose which version they actually want.
Post edited March 23, 2025 by Braggadar