Posted May 04, 2024
Mafwek
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rtcvb32
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Posted May 04, 2024
And like the Prohibition, there's just no convincing the public at large to stop smoking weed, drinking alcohol, or going around copyright when it's just too expensive overall.
MarS666
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Posted May 04, 2024
self-censorship
Post edited May 04, 2024 by MarS666
tastymonkey
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Posted May 04, 2024
Wow, everyone has an opinion so I guess I will throw mine out there.
I have two reasons I do not pirate games.
One, it is morally wrong.
Two, there may be a malicious payload mixed in.
Of course it is difficult to forget that Sony had one of those malicious payload on I think a music CD they were selling at one time and it was not possible or feasible to remove it without reinstalling Windows. Do a search for "sony audio cd malicious payload" Gotta love them rootkits.
Anywho, since it is morally wrong just own that fact if you are doing it. Not saying be stupid enough to admit it but stop pretending being a pirate is legitimate.
In any case, if you paid for it and make a hack to turn off DRM as long as you are not sending the program that does it out there that is perfectly legit. You paid for it.
There are games I will never buy because of the devs or publishers being shit OR the DRM is invasive enough to keep me from opening my wallet. I just accept I am not their customer.
Of course there are often a TON of people that will crawl on their hands and knees for the privilege of getting the game and jumping through extra hoops to play it.
A friend of mine bought me Skyrim on Steam when it first came out and I was not flush with cash. I was thankful and played it a lot. Now, when it came to GOG I bought it along with Fallout 4 since I liked the games enough I wanted to show that I am willing to buy them on gog.
Now, this has dragged on enough for me. Game on
I have two reasons I do not pirate games.
One, it is morally wrong.
Two, there may be a malicious payload mixed in.
Of course it is difficult to forget that Sony had one of those malicious payload on I think a music CD they were selling at one time and it was not possible or feasible to remove it without reinstalling Windows. Do a search for "sony audio cd malicious payload" Gotta love them rootkits.
Anywho, since it is morally wrong just own that fact if you are doing it. Not saying be stupid enough to admit it but stop pretending being a pirate is legitimate.
In any case, if you paid for it and make a hack to turn off DRM as long as you are not sending the program that does it out there that is perfectly legit. You paid for it.
There are games I will never buy because of the devs or publishers being shit OR the DRM is invasive enough to keep me from opening my wallet. I just accept I am not their customer.
Of course there are often a TON of people that will crawl on their hands and knees for the privilege of getting the game and jumping through extra hoops to play it.
A friend of mine bought me Skyrim on Steam when it first came out and I was not flush with cash. I was thankful and played it a lot. Now, when it came to GOG I bought it along with Fallout 4 since I liked the games enough I wanted to show that I am willing to buy them on gog.
Now, this has dragged on enough for me. Game on
rtcvb32
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Posted May 05, 2024
I question that morality.
There's dozens of games that are now dead that you can't play because they had online requirements. Is it morally right that your purchased game was removed/revoked by the devs or publishers?
Is it morally right to have your books you purchased deleted and removed off your kindle?
Is it morally right, you can only play an older Nintendo game while on a subscription service because they pulled the Eshop off?
Personally i hope to see copyright reduced to a mere 10 or 20 years again. That would do so much for preservation of everything.
There's dozens of games that are now dead that you can't play because they had online requirements. Is it morally right that your purchased game was removed/revoked by the devs or publishers?
Is it morally right to have your books you purchased deleted and removed off your kindle?
Is it morally right, you can only play an older Nintendo game while on a subscription service because they pulled the Eshop off?
Personally i hope to see copyright reduced to a mere 10 or 20 years again. That would do so much for preservation of everything.
TheHalf-Life3
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Posted May 05, 2024
rtcvb32: I question that morality.
There's dozens of games that are now dead that you can't play because they had online requirements. Is it morally right that your purchased game was removed/revoked by the devs or publishers?
Is it morally right to have your books you purchased deleted and removed off your kindle?
Is it morally right, you can only play an older Nintendo game while on a subscription service because they pulled the Eshop off?
Personally i hope to see copyright reduced to a mere 10 or 20 years again. That would do so much for preservation of everything.
As for instance I mean in case of companies like Nintendo they could eventually optionally mount special slots,ports,add-ons to not just only digitally,but also physically nowadays…etc. There's dozens of games that are now dead that you can't play because they had online requirements. Is it morally right that your purchased game was removed/revoked by the devs or publishers?
Is it morally right to have your books you purchased deleted and removed off your kindle?
Is it morally right, you can only play an older Nintendo game while on a subscription service because they pulled the Eshop off?
Personally i hope to see copyright reduced to a mere 10 or 20 years again. That would do so much for preservation of everything.
For instance Epic Games also removed their own classics from both GOG.com and Steam nowadays considered as being digitally re-released…etc. I guess in case of companies like Epic Games there are no such thing as public domain to their own lawyers.
AtroSola
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Posted May 05, 2024
Some companies removing access to media doesn't make it morally ok to pirate media.
The idea that doing something bad to someone because they did something bad is somehow good is a really weird and irrational cope.
If you do not like a company or person, do not get their games. Stealing from all game developers because you dislike the policies of some companies like EA is still just stealing and morally wrong since it's only for your own amusement / benefit.
Absolutely no one NEEDS video games or movies or ebooks. There is no justification for stealing their stuff.
The idea that doing something bad to someone because they did something bad is somehow good is a really weird and irrational cope.
If you do not like a company or person, do not get their games. Stealing from all game developers because you dislike the policies of some companies like EA is still just stealing and morally wrong since it's only for your own amusement / benefit.
Absolutely no one NEEDS video games or movies or ebooks. There is no justification for stealing their stuff.
AWG43
Registered: Aug 2013
From Ukraine
Posted May 05, 2024
AtroSola: If you do not like a company or person, do not get their games. Stealing from all game developers because you dislike the policies of some companies like EA is still just stealing and morally wrong since it's only for your own amusement / benefit.
While I completely agree with a point that "grabbing what you apparently don't like is irrational or even stupid", calling digital piracy a stealing is quite inaccurate since the copyright holders still in control of their intellectual properties if piracy occurs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy_is_theft
paladin181
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Posted May 05, 2024
AtroSola: If you do not like a company or person, do not get their games. Stealing from all game developers because you dislike the policies of some companies like EA is still just stealing and morally wrong since it's only for your own amusement / benefit.
Absolutely no one NEEDS video games or movies or ebooks. There is no justification for stealing their stuff.
If buying isn't owning, then pirating isn't stealing. Pirating was never "stealing." I don't do it because I live in a country where they try to disproportionately punish people for copyright infringement (literally tens of thousands of dollars in punishment for each download of a property, in some cases). Legally, I'd never condone it. But morally, I'll never condemn it, either.Absolutely no one NEEDS video games or movies or ebooks. There is no justification for stealing their stuff.
rtcvb32
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Posted May 05, 2024
On a purely technical level, yes this is true. But that's only on a physical level.
I've found with sex, it's like a hunger and like everything else needs to be fed periodically (some more than others). If you only eat, sleep and work/cultivate to survive you will go insane and burn out. Everyone needs downtime and fun mental exercises; and being bored out of your mind is one of the worse (just go sit in a waiting room for 6 hours with nothing to do, then tell me TV or magazines isn't needed), eventually you'll go out of your mind.
A side note of going out of your mind, you can go to a deprivation chamber. Half filled saltwater container in total darkness where some people go to let their mind do a lot of work without all these little things like feeling seeing or hearing anything. Someone going in for 2-3 hours can come out seemingly a caveman or lost wild animal unable to comprehend the world until their brain reconnects some 20 minutes later. Were you put in there long enough... You might not mentally come out again, or kill yourself rather than suffer non-sensory any longer. Technically you don't NEED to see/hear/feel/taste anything to survive on biological level (aka keep your heart going and cells doing their basic jobs). But i'd wager you don't want to live without them.
Preferably you're in a place where you don't have to wok too much, have a balanced social life (with sex), decent food, and have enough entertainment to keep you relatively happy.
Why not?
A ton of people purchased whole seasons of Mythbusters and other series on Sony's services, expecting to have it, and it was more convenient to stream than to have DVD's to switch them out. But suddenly Poof they are going to remove 1,200 different shows full content and everything and leave their paid customers with nothing. Like breaking into someone's house and just confiscating their media library.
Keep in mind, like games we have this notion of owning something when we buy it. Not 'extended renting'. If it said 'rent your media now' instead of 'purchase' i'm sure sales would plummet.
I've found with sex, it's like a hunger and like everything else needs to be fed periodically (some more than others). If you only eat, sleep and work/cultivate to survive you will go insane and burn out. Everyone needs downtime and fun mental exercises; and being bored out of your mind is one of the worse (just go sit in a waiting room for 6 hours with nothing to do, then tell me TV or magazines isn't needed), eventually you'll go out of your mind.
A side note of going out of your mind, you can go to a deprivation chamber. Half filled saltwater container in total darkness where some people go to let their mind do a lot of work without all these little things like feeling seeing or hearing anything. Someone going in for 2-3 hours can come out seemingly a caveman or lost wild animal unable to comprehend the world until their brain reconnects some 20 minutes later. Were you put in there long enough... You might not mentally come out again, or kill yourself rather than suffer non-sensory any longer. Technically you don't NEED to see/hear/feel/taste anything to survive on biological level (aka keep your heart going and cells doing their basic jobs). But i'd wager you don't want to live without them.
Preferably you're in a place where you don't have to wok too much, have a balanced social life (with sex), decent food, and have enough entertainment to keep you relatively happy.
Why not?
A ton of people purchased whole seasons of Mythbusters and other series on Sony's services, expecting to have it, and it was more convenient to stream than to have DVD's to switch them out. But suddenly Poof they are going to remove 1,200 different shows full content and everything and leave their paid customers with nothing. Like breaking into someone's house and just confiscating their media library.
Keep in mind, like games we have this notion of owning something when we buy it. Not 'extended renting'. If it said 'rent your media now' instead of 'purchase' i'm sure sales would plummet.
Post edited May 05, 2024 by rtcvb32
paladin181
Ghost of GOG, writing wrongs at every turn
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Posted May 05, 2024
rtcvb32: On a purely technical level, yes this is true. But that's only on a physical level.
I've found with sex, it's like a hunger and like everything else needs to be fed periodically (some more than others). If you only eat, sleep and work/cultivate to survive you will go insane and burn out. Everyone needs downtime and fun mental exercises; and being bored out of your mind is one of the worse (just go sit in a waiting room for 6 hours with nothing to do, then tell me TV or magazines isn't needed), eventually you'll go out of your mind.
A side note of going out of your mind, you can go to a deprivation chamber. Half filled saltwater container in total darkness where some people go to let their mind do a lot of work without all these little things like feeling seeing or hearing anything. Someone going in for 2-3 hours can come out seemingly a caveman or lost wild animal unable to comprehend the world until their brain reconnects some 20 minutes later. Were you put in there long enough... You might not mentally come out again, or kill yourself rather than suffer non-sensory any longer. Technically you don't NEED to see/hear/feel/taste anything to survive on biological level (aka keep your heart going and cells doing their basic jobs). But i'd wager you don't want to live without them.
Preferably you're in a place where you don't have to wok too much, have a balanced social life (with sex), decent food, and have enough entertainment to keep you relatively happy.
Why not?
A ton of people purchased whole seasons of Mythbusters and other series on Sony's services, expecting to have it, and it was more convenient to stream than to have DVD's to switch them out. But suddenly Poof they are going to remove 1,200 different shows full content and everything and leave their paid customers with nothing. Like breaking into someone's house and just confiscating their media library.
Keep in mind, like games we have this notion of owning something when we buy it. Not 'extended renting'. If it said 'rent your media now' instead of 'purchase' i'm sure sales would plummet.
People did things like this for ages before TV and video games were a thing. Don't mistake being accustomed to something as that it is needed.I've found with sex, it's like a hunger and like everything else needs to be fed periodically (some more than others). If you only eat, sleep and work/cultivate to survive you will go insane and burn out. Everyone needs downtime and fun mental exercises; and being bored out of your mind is one of the worse (just go sit in a waiting room for 6 hours with nothing to do, then tell me TV or magazines isn't needed), eventually you'll go out of your mind.
A side note of going out of your mind, you can go to a deprivation chamber. Half filled saltwater container in total darkness where some people go to let their mind do a lot of work without all these little things like feeling seeing or hearing anything. Someone going in for 2-3 hours can come out seemingly a caveman or lost wild animal unable to comprehend the world until their brain reconnects some 20 minutes later. Were you put in there long enough... You might not mentally come out again, or kill yourself rather than suffer non-sensory any longer. Technically you don't NEED to see/hear/feel/taste anything to survive on biological level (aka keep your heart going and cells doing their basic jobs). But i'd wager you don't want to live without them.
Preferably you're in a place where you don't have to wok too much, have a balanced social life (with sex), decent food, and have enough entertainment to keep you relatively happy.
Why not?
A ton of people purchased whole seasons of Mythbusters and other series on Sony's services, expecting to have it, and it was more convenient to stream than to have DVD's to switch them out. But suddenly Poof they are going to remove 1,200 different shows full content and everything and leave their paid customers with nothing. Like breaking into someone's house and just confiscating their media library.
Keep in mind, like games we have this notion of owning something when we buy it. Not 'extended renting'. If it said 'rent your media now' instead of 'purchase' i'm sure sales would plummet.
rtcvb32
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rojimboo
There is No Planet B.
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Posted May 05, 2024
When you take creative content from the creators for free, and enjoy it, you've already placed a non-zero value on that product. Therefore you are depriving them of revenue (which could be critical for many creative content creators for their future).
It's as simple as that.
The rest is just whining because people want to have a free lunch.
It's as simple as that.
The rest is just whining because people want to have a free lunch.
rtcvb32
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rojimboo: When you take creative content from the creators for free, and enjoy it, you've already placed a non-zero value on that product. Therefore you are depriving them of revenue (which could be critical for many creative content creators for their future).
It's as simple as that.
This is incorrect. While you may not be giving them money (at the start) there's other factors to it. It's as simple as that.
First factor, obviously we don't have infinite money, so one has to be picky and choosy of what media you purchase. But back when Napster became a thing for a while, yes a lot of big name stuff was getting downloaded, but so was a lot of little stuff. The bands that had no chance of being noticed suddenly got cult followings, and their userbase and sales increased significantly, which they never would have had.
Personally back 1995-2000 i downloaded from mp3.com, which had free music up. I found one of my favorite musicians who does game music, Bjorn Lynne. It wasn't until a decade or two later i felt i had money to spend and bought 10 CD's from him at once, directly from him, giving him far more money than if i bought one or two CD's through the normal channels at the time.
If something is good, you are far more likely to seek out and repurchase it than if it's a big mystery and you don't know if CD or movie is any good or not. Had i never heard or gotten a portion of his music for free, i certainly wouldn't have ever purchased from him.
On the other hand, if you add DRM and make it so you get a terrible experience from something you got, you're almost guaranteed never to purchase that product.
Let's not forget, for decades you have VHS and tape, so i could record a song from the radio or a movie on TV, have the content and never purchase it, or borrow movies or books from the public library.
TheHalf-Life3
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Posted May 06, 2024
Is like Skaarj in Unreal Tournament 4 rather texture or is it some kind of high poly 3D model hidden somewhere in the game files?
Another how is it when someone will make unofficial,fanmade properly made Jazz Jackrabbit 3D high poly models I am not able to download some game assets?
Like right here.
https://blenderartists.org/t/jazz-jackrabbit-free-rigged-textured-animated-model-new-logic/452787
When I’m logging into Mediafire each time to download such game asset file it redirects me to one of my own Mediafire accounts. Is it like Epic Games lawyers took it down due to DMCA,copyrights infringement or what?
Does it mean that those computer games/video games as modern entertainment should be considered as public domain or not…etc.?
Another how is it when someone will make unofficial,fanmade properly made Jazz Jackrabbit 3D high poly models I am not able to download some game assets?
Like right here.
https://blenderartists.org/t/jazz-jackrabbit-free-rigged-textured-animated-model-new-logic/452787
When I’m logging into Mediafire each time to download such game asset file it redirects me to one of my own Mediafire accounts. Is it like Epic Games lawyers took it down due to DMCA,copyrights infringement or what?
Does it mean that those computer games/video games as modern entertainment should be considered as public domain or not…etc.?
Post edited May 06, 2024 by TheHalf-Life3