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Lin545: Lock this thread and shake hands everyone. This is bad direction you are heading. Especially near Christmas and New Year. You'll embarrass Santa and Father Frost.
On a serious note I actually blame this on Christmas. There is always shit like this going this time of year.

You never see myself or anyone raging during Arbor Day or Columbus Day.

Get rid of Christmas, no fuck that, just get rid of all of December period, and you'd never have another thread like this again, I GUARANTEE IT!!! :D
I knew you couldn't show me a link to prove any of your accusations... Let's go on to your next post...

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RWarehall: Talk about sexist and homophobic commentary
Where did I talk about sexist and homophobic bullshit? Show it to me, please. I'm not your SJW puppet.

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RWarehall: Hope that goes over well with the social justice brigade
Reading comprehension, my friend, reading comprehension. I've got nothing to do with "the social justice brigade". I explicitly called them "nutters" and "idiots". Get the gamergate bullshit out of your system.

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RWarehall: It didn't matter that many of the people you defended were proven to later be scammers.
Le fuq? What the hell are you talking about? I didn't defend anyone. Show the posts, please.

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RWarehall: Many people avoided scams by checking the lists and reading about the tactics, but we were all idiots because only the great Real knows what is right and apparently trying to warn people about scammers was wrong and clearly emboldening them.
Reading comprehension fails you again. Read my earlier post.

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RWarehall: Only Real knows best. No one else is entitled to a differing opinion as he tried to bully the thread closed along with others.
Well... I'd like to see where I did that. Link me to the posts, please.

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RWarehall: Real pressuring the Known Scammer threads to quit posting names because he thought it was useless
Show me the post where I did this.

I never told anyone to stop posting names there. I never even suggested to only post names if you have 100% proof. I never asked for it to be closed. All I said was that it's useless, since scammers created new accounts every day, because their scaming worked with fresh Rep: 0 accounts. But I said that twice already. Reading comprehension.

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RWarehall: and when we didn't the complaints and name-calling ensued
Nope. You started to scream at me like the nutcase you are. That's where the name-calling (from my side) started.

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RWarehall: But we are all jerks I guess because Real says so.
Where did I say that? Link, please.

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RWarehall: his enemies
My enemies? You? *lolz* You're not that important to me. This is just a forum.

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RWarehall: So many people have to be laughing at you right now.
I always knew you weren't alone in that ugly thing you're calling your head :D Have a good party up there ;)
Post edited December 15, 2016 by real.geizterfahr
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PaterAlf: Sorry that's no evidence, but just a number of claims.
It's more than enough evidence.

Don't jump to someone's defense when you aren't aware of the history; this is also part of the problem, people getting involved in crap they have no business in or understanding of, just to support their friend.

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PaterAlf: Don't want to say that tinyE is a saint, but your post is quite biased and the problem with this forum is far more complex
Biased no, it's not biased to hold someone to account for their threats and behaviour (he's admitted doing most of what I said, so how is it biased?).

And I never said that was the only problem or that he was the only one, just that he's one of the main instigators.

I agree it's mainly GoG's fault, but that doesn't excuse his behaviour.

Trying to control who posts what, which threads are allowed, calling people's family's names and playing people against each other is extremely destructive to this forum.

Forum was fine before he brought his dysfunctional and arrogant crap to this place.
Post edited December 15, 2016 by Kleetus
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real.geizterfahr: snip
You like to talk about reading comprehension but you don't get that using terms like "douchebag" or "cocksucker" shows your are a bit sexist and homophobic?

You called them "my beloved known scammer threads". You called the known scammer threads useless. If you cannot see the contempt at those threads with the words you choose, you can't see jack. The same way you threw Gamergate into the mix of things that have to go.

And what is your reaction? The known scammer threads needed to change because you said so. Or how your vision of the forum is a forum without Gamergate. Intolerance. Your words. Your vision.

And I think it speaks volumes that you can use names like cocksucker and douchebag and all the rest and none of your posts are downvoted but mine is.

This is the problem with the forums. The cadre of "regulars" who impose their order through bullying and harassment through the use of low rated posts, downrepping, and false spam deletion and their tacit support of their "friends" even when they are as much of the problems.

We got to this point, in part, because a small minority of regulars have been abusing this system to establish their own social order.

Frankly, Alaric was completely justified to be upset over the actions taken against him by our "regular" forumites. While I don't agree with his spam activism, I certainly understand his reasoning, and you cannot tell me that he wasn't trying to get a decent point across.
TIME TO VOTE!

Everyone in favor of Kleetus getting a lobotomy put your hands in the air!

C'mon Kleetus, you get to vote too! :D
Post edited December 15, 2016 by tinyE
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PaterAlf: Sorry that's no evidence, but just a number of claims.
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Kleetus: It's more than enough evidence.

Don't jump to someone's defense when you aren't aware of the history; this is also part of the problem, people getting involved in crap they have no business in or understanding of, just to support their friend.
Not aware of the history? I was already here when tinyE arrived and I post and read the forum on a regular base. I think I know pretty well what happened.
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PaterAlf: I think I know pretty well what happened.
Then how am I biased when he's admitted doing what I stated?
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tinyE: Everyone in favor of Kleetus getting a lobotomy put your hands in the air!
Didn't they do one on your ballbag?
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Every person in this thread is a TROLL!
Why?
Because you posted in here.WHEN YOU COULD OF READ IT,HAD A LAUGH AND MOVED ON.
Look in the mirror people and say ''I am a TROLL and must change my thinking to my fellow human being''
Have a nice day:)
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Tauto: Every person in this thread is a TROLL!
You're in this thread. :D
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Tauto: Every person in this thread is a TROLL!
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tinyE: You're in this thread. :D
Yes.
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RWarehall: ...
Thanks for not providing any links to back up the bullshit you were claiming I did. You're still the screaming idiot you were when I stopped reading your posts. I'll go back to ignore you now.
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RWarehall: ...
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real.geizterfahr: Thanks for not providing any links to back up the bullshit you were claiming I did. You're still the screaming idiot you were when I stopped reading your posts. I'll go back to ignore you now.
Go fuck yourself!

You certainly used the sexist term douchebag.
You used the homophobic term cocksucker.
You called out Gamergate as something not belonging in your New World Order forum.
You called the known Scammer thread useless, all in this thread.

I don't need to link it, page up! Or are you too stupid to do that.

I feel no need to go back through a bunch of old threads when the evidence is right here.

Guess that just makes you a moron.
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zeogold: Correct me if I'm wrong here, but you seem to have been triggered by one thing he mentioned and are taking that and deciding to use much pent-up rage you have over the issue to talk about the GamersGate thread, which has long been lampooned as an example of how bitter the forum gets over political issues anyways (whether you or people you know have directly participated in it or not, you can't deny that some pretty bad trolling went down in there, as happens with most political threads).
Couldn't your purpose have simply been accomplished by saying "GamersGate does not belong in that list of problems"?
Do you have any opinion on the rest of what he said besides ad hominem commentary?
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RWarehall: Zeogold, do you even know what ad hominem means?

And there you go too. Because trolls entered the discussion, all Gamergaters are bad people. And how the heck is it a "political thread" anyway? It was about videogames and those who are calling for their change or ban. You don't like it, so here you are being just another "forum regular" engaging in shaming, bullying and harassment of opinions you dislike. And lets portray it as an off-topic political discussion rather than about videogames to enforce the point.
Yes, I do. Ad hominem means an attack directly on a person's character rather than their argument, such as when you said Real blames the victims and sits on his high horse.

Never did I say the thread or the people in it were bad, I just said it got trolled and was lampooned. There could be very intelligent discussions going on in there for all I know. I never click on it, so I don't have an opinion. I'd like it it if you didn't accuse me of shaming, bullying, and harassment without due reason (i.e. just because I explained how something is generally viewed), thanks.

I appreciate your response about how to fix it, but I see that Real's kinda dropping to the same level there over...I have no idea what, so I think I'll just drop it for now since this ain't my fight.


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PaterAlf: I think I know pretty well what happened.
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Kleetus: Then how am I biased when he's admitted doing what I stated?
Since you seem rather obsessed with tinyE, using him as your justification for going off the rails, would you care to explain your behavior towards several others who never did what tinyE did?
Post edited December 16, 2016 by zeogold
This thread seriously needs to be closed.

It's annoying even me.