Nice little forum ya gots here. Be a real shame if something happened to it.

I'm afraid that I will have to agree. Especially so, when taken at absolute face value. Nothing was said about Trans people. There wasn't anything even in the reverse. If GOG had tweeted something like "Games will not be erased (insert anti-trans public figure here)", that would have been deliberate, and also, even more senseless than the current outrage (What reason would GOG have to do something like that?). As many have pointed out "Won't be erased" are very generic words when taken at a rather literal face value reading in English. They could mean anything from Objects to Food to People, and are not targeted at anyone or anything in particular.

Now perhaps, it's just me, but I'm bothered by the current assumption that generic words/tags can be "copyrighted" by any one single demographic. Who is the one who insisted that just because a bunch of generic words are used by a vocal cause, they can no longer be used by anyone else for their own purposes and intentions? Who made that fact? Even corporations aren't legally allowed to copyright generic words from the dictionary, or A-Z will be long gone and you will be paying royalties for each letter you type on the internet.

On GOG's side, I gather that GOG are using sniping tactics, grabbing what they view as hot hashtags and trendy keywords/phrases, in a bid to enhance their SEO (Search Engine Optimization), visibility and promotion. But something went wrong. They are not doing it right. As a corporation and business, they have to do more due diligence.

Still, a mature response would have been to let GOG know that your demographic is currently using the hashtag for a cause, and ask if GOG would be willing to reconsider using the tag in light of this. Instead of screaming "Transphobia!" (You do not have the copyright over the hashtag), and acting like the sky is falling.


This is an interesting side of things. I feel that the "Trans Pressure" has drained a lot of support out of the Left. If the Trans demographic had approached things on a respectful plane, with awareness to the various cause and effects, and are ideologically content with their own lanes, it wouldn't have been a problem. No one who isn't "anti" for the sake of would have been on the other side of the fence. However, this isn't happening. Abrasiveness, purposeful senselessness and attacks are what's pouring right out of them.

First, we can no longer have genders. Except gender isn't a matter of what "I feel today", but an actual biological structure. It is an intricate mix of our foundations, DNA , mass, formations and traits. It's not going to change no matter what we "feel and think" or any pseudo science that one could come up with. It's like, you could choose to "imagine" that you won't die by swallowing Cyanide, but your body is going to react otherwise.

Debunking fruitful science research that yields medical advancements based on hard facts that brought benefits to our bodies and lives, will cause regression and harm upon everyone. Now, if it's for the self, I still think it's acceptable. If you truly "imagine" you won't die by swallowing cyanide, I guess it's up to you, if it's a choice that you are simply making for yourself and your living. But it's a different matter forcing everyone to believe this, encouraging everyone to drink it and getting science to change it from "poison" to "harmless".

Second, the pushing of puberty blockers onto kids. This is a serious deal, as the alterations are permanent. There is no regrets or going back. And who has the right to make such a life-affecting decision for children, when there is no medical need at stake? It's child abuse at it's finest. When the kid turns 18/21, then let them decide for themselves as a legal adult.

Third, the forceful intrusion into women's and children's spaces for the sake of sexual fetishism and obsessive want. I remembered reading an article where a group of 12 year old girls (it's a space for children), were horrified when a Trans (guy in women's clothing) stripped and exposed all his genitals in front of everyone. Then, when the security guard asked him to leave, he was going on about Trans rights and stuff. It's like, how could you be so unaware of what you are doing?

On top of that, there is an increase in sexual assault cases due to the erasure of women's and children's spaces. Lots of negativity also manifests itself in dialogue.

You see, both men and women, in terms of medical aliments, do have gender specific conditions. For men, there is the risk of prostate cancer. For women, there are battles within the uterus system ranging from fibroids/endometriosis, ovarian/cervical cancer, and there is pregnancy and the usual monthy cycles. Naturally, these are conversations that people want to have. So the Trans were going, "It's transphobic or disgusting if you were to talk about these in front of my face, because I don't have that!". (Well, duh, men don't have women's parts.)

How childish is that? It seems that genders are nothing but fetishism and obsessions to the group. They know very well they are not the opposite gender, and will revert anytime back to their original gender if it gives them an advantage to get the things they want to get in the name of "Trans".

Now there are some people who attempt to draw parallels to the lesbian and gay demographic. Except there is a difference. L/G folks aren't trying to claim that being straight/heterosexuality doesn't exist, or must be edited where everyone have to compulsorily date gay people or else you are ***phobic. No such thing. In fact, the very ardent believe in the strict separation of orientation between gay and straight people. Also, they take the trouble to form their own separate communities and date amongst each other. On the usual road, most have little desire in wanting more than what the straight general public conforms to (save for some extreme types).

I often think it odd as to why Trans people are often insistent on dating "cis-scum" people? Especially MTF Trans. So they don't think of themselves as the gender they actually are?

To cap it off, Dr Ryan T. Anderson (a conservative white christian guy) wrote a book about Transgenders, and amazingly, it shot up to the bestseller list of it's category. Reviews were equally split between right and left-ist people. The second eye-brow raising thing was the chapter entitled "hands across the aisles". In which he talked about how feminists (largely more radical-leaning, as most liberal ones are very pro-Trans), approached him and his group during one of his conferences for contribution and help, specifically for this issue. If you thought you have never seen such pole ends of the scale bumping together, today is the day. This highlights the huge volatility of this particular side of politics.

I agree in principle with you.

But why they keep doing these neo-culture references?
The world is becoming confused on a lot of aspect; things that wear clear in past, now are cloudy and confused to 1/4 of the world population.
Especially the western people have their mouth full of "civil rights", but they don't even know what that means.

There are so many ways of being funny and provocative; but GOG often dig a hole itself.

Moreover; seen the cockup with the website, I feel they are pretty badly confused too.

Yep,been wondering that myself.It's either a bug or someone using one of Alaric's scripts.

Who is GOG winning over to it's cause by vacillating between "edgy" and apologetic?

Guerilla marketing and it worked. Author probably got a bonus.
Free extra media coverages at almoust no cost (few consistently outraged individuals and some shitty movies from unknown studio that 99.99% of people doesn't even knew to exists, let alone being sold on GoG - I've forgotten that GoG sells movies years ago). Many people learned that GoG exist. If it got to non-game related sites (I don't know) - full win on their part.

That's the reality of it. This time they didn't even apologize much, because they've learned it's costs them nothing. I believe most potential clients don't really give a damn, many found it funny.

I'm not big fan of stunt marketing, but it's there and it's main weapon of little companies(and GoG is small comparatively), differentiates them from gigantic corporations.

Learn to ignore stuff like that or live in constant state of outrage because on the internet there is one gigantic, never ending battle. - for your attention.

Guerilla marketing. Author probably got a bonus if there was mainstream media coverage and it costed them next to nothing. Few perpetually always outraged individuals, some shitty movies from shitty studio next to no one recognizes (I didn't remember Gog sells movies) and non-apology.

Learn to ignore stuff like that or live life of constant outrage, because on the internet there is only one war and it's for your attention.

That's definitely not what my Twitter feed looks like, and I certainly don't expect or want that garbage in my timeline. It's also why I unfollowed GOG there a good while ago.

I get what you're saying, but I would think there is a way to attract new customers without completely alienating your old ones. And considering how GOG keeps getting into trouble on Twitter, it's pretty obvious that they're misjudging the audience on Twitter.

I thought as much and your point is well made, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify around the edges.
To be honest, I don't believe we're that much off in our viewpoints and we're probably not going to influence eachother significantly in the nuances. Somehow we (as a species/culture/whatver) have arrived in a place where - at least on the surface - everything has to be defined by and categorized into hardline stances unable to give an inch. It's just nice to exchange a few level headed words, even if there's not always agreement. Good talk.

I was replying to this thread when I suddenly became aware of the fact that I didn't remember what it was that everyone was so pissed about. Seems someone can make a post asking about the weather or a sports game and 105 pages later it's devolved into a debate about whether or not Jesus would have allowed a trans disciple into his inner circle because of Talmud rules against bringing high heels into the synagogue.

Holy Christ on a graham cracker. I sure am glad I took a Tramadol this morning. Now I need some coffee to wash it down with or I'm gonna go into a message board breakdown coma. Quick, someone safe space me some testosterone pills and a protein bar.

These SJWs are an intellectual form of cancer that defies any form of coherent logic or reason. They need to be stopped before they destroy everything in their path including themselves.

I agree there too. :D

Trans people are getting assaulted and GoG found it a good idéa to crap all over them?
You dont have to like trans at all, but assaulting, insulting etc is not to be tolerated. We are talking about peoples rights here.

Seems like their PR/Twitter account is just another edge lord trying to be cool, and judging by all the gaming discussions on the internet they hit home with the "conservative/edgy" gamers.

And regarding the future, I think a lot of customers are not to happy sending their money to a company with this kind of disregard for basic fucking human rights. I dont care one way or the other for trans people, but I do care for their right not to be abused because of what they are, choice or no choice. Whats next? Vote suppression...oh..sorry, after that I mean?

Of course a lot of "1337 gamers" are being insulted by this very reply from me here, totally missing the point and why this is truly uppsetting.


TLDR: just don´t be an asshole to others. People are scared so do not use that as a marketing stunt.

Why should I buy from GOG again? DRM? lol

Incoming Swedish NPC alert.

If you look at Gog Twitter it's something they constantly do and they are not the only one, I would say that for most corporate twitter it's either "cold" information or "trying to sound cool", as in "look fellow kids, we are not some faceless corporation we are one of you, look we even use cool meme and Imgur gifs".

Pleonasm alert.