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Sachys: That makes some sense then!

- i dont remember anything like this being stickied in any way on the steam group page - might be handy!?!
Yes, it would be, but you have to dig around in the thread D2V mentions in order to get that info.
http://www.steamgifts.com/forum/vUnIE
Not to mention the thread about calculating CV. I'll go dig that up for you.

Some more info about bundle games and CV here:
http://www.steamgifts.com/forum/Ihcl4/how-were-planning-to-fix-bundle-keys-and-contributor-values-option-1-revised

And goodnight from me!
Post edited June 14, 2013 by DarkoD13
[Apologies in advance for this post people but malicious comments were made in my direction and I need to correct such nonsense. Feel free to skip this or read it but please, for the love of god, do not just skim it.]

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Sachys: Lets see, about three or four pages of posts (at 50 posts per page) and you expect him to have read every post before forming an opinion?
Don't be such an arrogant sod teshra.
Sometimes you post very well thought / well put things but right now you aren't and frankly you just come across as bulling from your high horse.
You should reconsider your unpleasant tone.
No, I expect him to NOT comment when only skimming the thread and not understanding what all the dialogue was about. That would have been the wise thing to do since people tend to miss out on a lot when skimming. I did not expect him to have read every post if he had no desire so don't say thats what I expected him to do.
But coming on here, telling everyone that he's only skimmed the thread and then making a comment that obviously shows he really has no idea what the discussion is about, then yah, I'll call him out on it. Sorry if that offended you to the point you had to come to his defense. His comment was an insult to the people following this thread and those who've made comments on both sides of the debate.

The people who have incorporated some semblance of rules in their threads lately are not "out to get those who make minor mistakes or manage to misread them." That was a grossly erroneous comment from someone who just skimmed a thread and as I said before, if thats what he got out of the discussion, he is very wrong. And I wanted him to know that.

Second, his "Thanks!". Clearly a trollish comment meant to provoke a reaction and low and behold, it worked. If he wanted to "let if go" and make it "not worth the trouble of digging it up", it did not need to be said. He could've let it go well before making that comment. I wasn't gonna let him get away with trivializing the comments made in this thread and then again trivializing my attempt to correct his inaccurate view of the discussion. Take off your poo colored glasses and re-read the comments.

Don't accuse me of being an "arrogant sod" or "bulling from a high horse" when neither is anywhere near accurate. All I did was correct inaccurate comments and then respond in kind to a trollish one word sarcastically laced retort.
That is all, good day.
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teshra:
You're doing it again. I'd leave it here were I you as you're only proving my point by not even considering the possiblity.
Post edited June 14, 2013 by Sachys
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abolat: More giveaways!

http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/363MB/sonic-spinball

http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/H4I2Y/sonic-the-hedgehog-2

PLEASE READ THE DESCRIPTION. One gentelmen or lady has not and it breaks my heart that this lack of attention will change everyone's odds of winning (re-rolls happen when the person himself/herself wins it but imagine the odds of 1/11 vs 1/10 and this is if one person doesn't read the description....)
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sebarnolds: I don't really know Tails: I played Sonic (the first one I think) when I was a kid and got the first one recently on Steam. I'd be interested in participating in this giveaway but I don't have anything to share about Tails.

I won't participate if you don't want me too but I thought I could ask...
feel free to join. sorry I seem to have missed your post.

just a heads up on the giveaways. still some time remaining!

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/steamgiftscom_gog_gift_club_v3_giveaways/post3287
Post edited June 14, 2013 by abolat
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Sachys: You're doing it again. I'd leave it here were I you as you're only proving my point by not even considering the possiblity.
So, making threats now? And doing what again exactly? Consider what possibilty? Don't speak in code and nonsense. Come out and say it, that is if you are sober tonight.

What point of yours have I proven when its you who started with the mudslinging and now started with some kind of internet tough guy threat.

Please please, be verbose and say exactly what you are saying so I can clearly understand. None of this skimming bs or speaking in code.
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teshra:
A threat? No. I've simply pointed out that with your last post you have proven my prior post to be correct. Nor am I speaking in code.

I see no reason to question my sobriety nor make insinuations regarding it.

I'm gonna leave it here teshra as you're evidently not capable of civil discussion with me right now and remain on the defensive.

I'll repeat what I said before though - please recondiser your unpleasant tone. There is NO need of it whatsoever.
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Sachys:
Did you not call me a "Cunt" in another thread a few moments ago? Did you not call me an "arrogant sod" in this thread?
Whose tone is actually unpleasant here? Who started the namecalling and the defensive behavior and started throwing accusations around?

I'm just trying to get clarity man. And you bring the insults, the rude language and the besmirching of my character. I'm not gonna stand for that. You started it in public as much as I wish you hadn't and so here we are, Drama Night at the GOG.
I hope I am not stepping out of bounds here but for the sake of keeping everything civil and to prevent hearts from breaking (any further than they already have at least), let us all take a deep breath, a moment to pause and take it down a notch. Please.
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teshra:
Did I?

I dont recall calling you anything in another thread - though I have indeed called you an arrogant sod.

You can shout at me from your shetland pony as much as you want, but as I've said, I'm now leaving this discussion.
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abolat:
Thankyou. My thoughts also.
Post edited June 14, 2013 by Sachys
Calm down. I expressed an opinion and it goes to world war 3. Whatever I may feel about this subject matter is simply not worth this mess. Nothing to see here. Good grief.
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liquidsnakehpks: Here is the v1 of the allowed rules for now , more might be added later if current don't catch the leechers/scammers

Gifters can only have the following rules in the giveaways / anything not in here is not supported and warnings will not be issued for them

1)must have gifted a game for gog gift club v3
2)must have gifted a game for gog gift club v3 (non bundle game)
3) must have rep 40 ( this the min required to join the club)
4)winner must add the gifter on steam / reply to email check
5) must not enter if you own a game/games already in the pack , bundle etc
lets see if these can at least be followed for now , can add more later

will get these updated to the club rules asap
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SlappyBag: I think the person giving away the bundle/pack should be able to decide if people can enter if they own part of the bundle, not the group.

If I make a giveaway for a Humble Bundle I would let people join if they already own 1 of the games, I wouldn't want the group dictating who can enter my giveaway in that regards.

Other than that, I like the rules. Nice job!
lol you totally got this wrong ? these are the rules people can use in the giveways not forced upon on each giveaway
I repeat again these are the only rules gifter CAN use in their giveaways , if they dont want they may not use em .
These are the rules we ground admins will issue for warning if broken
Post edited June 15, 2013 by liquidsnakehpks
I had originally intended to wait until the giveaway ended, but since I feel I've had my fun already, and due to the fact that condition 5 is impossible to satisfy was quickly discovered and posted, I am going to do a reveal early.
It is also getting late in the discussion which I inadvertently excluded myself from and points may be getting moot. Special cases may exist, but my thoughts are as follows.

Firstly, I am going to let you know, that I laughed my ass off the first two hours reading the thread after posting the giveaway link. Thank you. I am also glad you had some fun with it as well.

I created the giveaway with an aptly named game Chains, because I wanted it to be a bit of a commentary on the subject of rules and how getting too hanged up in them is leading a number of good members/givers to be discredited for what I would say are minor issues.
I purposely put together the most outlandish and complicated rules possible to stress a point, that a giveaway should not be a chore to enter nor manage.
It proved that if you make the rules too complicated, no one will enter. Ultimately a select few will dare, but all others would be excluded, and that makes for a small club.

I believe that doing and participating in giveaway should be fun. The recent witch-hunt has not been fun. The whole rules issue has gotten a bit out of hand and it has even turned away gifters. Sure, there were rights and wrongs, but it got too extreme.

I don't mind gifters being able to ensure that their gift reaches the intended audience, but when a frequent gifter can be banned for not making a throwaway "thanks" comment, something is wrong.
One thing is requesting common courtesy, another is making it rigid bullshit.
I'd appreciate a sincere thank you, however requiring it defeats the gesture.
If you want to make a simple requirement, at least make it interesting.
On public giveaways I usually don't comment, but on group giveaways I frequently do. I can slip up in a hurry. Sorry in advance.
I'm all for kicking bad apples, but let's at least make sure it's the real ones.

I create giveaways to this group, because I want to and not because I am forced to. Given the smaller number of members, I hope it will end up at a member of the forum I know and not just some complete stranger. I am not so interested in who has given how much and when. I know that I am not in the same league as Ian and I probably can't hope to be unless I win the lottery or something. It is a casual environment, where everyone can play.

Back to the giveaway: The conditions I put forth on this giveaway were never intended to be enforced and anybody who entered despite them would be in for the prize. I chose a prize that would not be a "loss", if only people ignoring rules would enter. Mind you, I have not yet played the game, but this is an inexpensive bundle-item.
If you look in the source code for the page, there's even a link to a troll face right next to where it says "rules" in the description. I would also have thought that the tone of the language would have been caught by some as suspicious, but I did say it was an experiment.

I didn't expect anyone to actually try to jump through the hoops to meet the conditions, but kudos to those of you who tried.


In conclusion, you have all my blessing to enter, but I am going to ask that you do not reveal the truth on the giveaway page itself. That I would consider a ban-able offense to be enforced, because you are actively being a prick.
Preferably enter without a comment, unless you intend to play along with the gag.

Thanks.


(I may follow up on points made by other members, which I read while editing this, but for now I'll just finally dump this wall of text.)
Hello as expected it seems people are having a bit of confusion regarding rules now

After a discusion it was decided to implement rule 10 in a much friendly manner therefore the group can have 4 types of giveaways now

1) Gog style , rules free giveaways

2)Group rules giveaway : the gifters can use any of the group approved rules from this list in such giveaways and warnings will be issued for members breaking those rules.
These are the v1 list of rules approved for being used in giveaways
1)must have gifted a game for gog gift club v3
2)must have gifted a game for gog gift club v3 (non bundle game)
3) must have rep 40 ( this the min required to join the club)
4)winner must add the gifter on steam / reply to email check
5) must not enter if you own a game/games already in the pack , bundle etc

3) gifter custom rules :- this giveaway can have rules that the gifter wants but will not be enforced by the group but you will have to take it up with steam gift support if you have any issues

4) mixed rules - can have both group and custom rules - warnings will be issued for group rules only .

REMEMBER THESE ARE THE GUIDELINES ONLY , YOU CAN EITHER CHOOSE TO HAVE EM OR NOT . any clarifications please contact me or the other admins
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uchristensen: I didn't expect anyone to actually try to jump through the hoops to meet the conditions, but kudos to those of you who tried.
It was fun.
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DarkoD13: I'm quite sure uchristensen's giveaway is a joke about how the rules could be abused.
Actually no. That is more or less an unintended side effect.
It is more about going overboard in the other direction from simple.