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liquidsnakehpks: Here is the v1 of the allowed rules for now , more might be added later if current don't catch the leechers/scammers

Gifters can only have the following rules in the giveaways / anything not in here is not supported and warnings will not be issued for them

1)must have gifted a game for gog gift club v3
2)must have gifted a game for gog gift club v3 (non bundle game)
3) must have rep 40 ( this the min required to join the club)
4)winner must add the gifter on steam / reply to email check
5) must not enter if you own a game/games already in the pack , bundle etc
lets see if these can at least be followed for now , can add more later

will get these updated to the club rules asap
I think the person giving away the bundle/pack should be able to decide if people can enter if they own part of the bundle, not the group.

If I make a giveaway for a Humble Bundle I would let people join if they already own 1 of the games, I wouldn't want the group dictating who can enter my giveaway in that regards.

Other than that, I like the rules. Nice job!
Post edited June 14, 2013 by SlappyBag
Now you're putting rules on the rules? That's utter MADNESS!

Thanks snake!.. ;p
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SlappyBag: I think the person giving away the bundle/pack should be able to decide if people can enter if they own part of the bundle, not the group.
These are the rules that will warrant a warning/kick... it's not mandatory..
Post edited June 14, 2013 by Stooner
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SlappyBag: I think the person giving away the bundle/pack should be able to decide if people can enter if they own part of the bundle, not the group.

If I make a giveaway for a Humble Bundle I would let people join if they already own 1 of the games, I wouldn't want the group dictating who can enter my giveaway in that regards.
Eh, he probably meant exactly what you just said, the GA maker is the one who decides that, if he feels like it.
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liquidsnakehpks: Here is the v1 of the allowed rules for now , more might be added later if current don't catch the leechers/scammers

Gifters can only have the following rules in the giveaways / anything not in here is not supported and warnings will not be issued for them

1)must have gifted a game for gog gift club v3
2)must have gifted a game for gog gift club v3 (non bundle game)
3) must have rep 40 ( this the min required to join the club)
4)winner must add the gifter on steam / reply to email check
5) must not enter if you own a game/games already in the pack , bundle etc
lets see if these can at least be followed for now , can add more later

will get these updated to the club rules asap
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abolat: May I just point out that we have, in a mater of hours, managed to shift the tide of responsibility from the entrants, to the gifter (by requiring them to make rules in their giveaways that are in accordance with what people that enter giveaways want)... So basically, as an example, instead of saying "look people you can't open your gifts until Christmas Eve" we are saying "look you can't tell your kids they can't open their gifts until Christmas Eve"

I can agree with not banning members for not commenting as the gifter requested or whatever, but limiting people's rules on their giveaways seems kinda odd to me. As I see it, if the gifter made certain rules, he wants only those people that follow them or in most cases those who actually bother to read the description to enter his/her giveaways.

Not all rules on giveaways are made for leecher/scammers you know. some are just plain fun.

And just a note; I really think that if the rules are going to be made/changed, they should be put to a vote and not changed or made according to whoever makes the most vocal opposition or support for the changes or modifications.
Nicely said, abolat!
Post edited June 14, 2013 by Andanzas
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liquidsnakehpks:
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abolat: May I just point out that we have, in a mater of hours, managed to shift the tide of responsibility from the entrants, to the gifter (by requiring them to make rules in their giveaways that are in accordance with what people that enter giveaways want)... So basically, as an example, instead of saying "look people you can't open your gifts until Christmas Eve" we are saying "look you can't tell your kids they can't open their gifts until Christmas Eve"

I can agree with not banning members for not commenting as the gifter requested or whatever, but limiting people's rules on their giveaways seems kinda odd to me. As I see it, if the gifter made certain rules, he wants only those people that follow them or in most cases those who actually bother to read the description to enter his/her giveaways.

Not all rules on giveaways are made for leecher/scammers you know. some are just plain fun.

And just a note; I really think that if the rules are going to be made/changed, they should be put to a vote and not changed or made according to whoever makes the most vocal opposition or support for the changes or modifications.
I agree with abolat! This is more restricting than the original SG rules ( get rule preapproved with SG, no mention about restricting it to certain rules only). For example I had a giveaway sometime ago where I made the rule that only people who had not won a game on SG within the last 2 weeks or something like that could enter, SG approved that rule. Also think the potential of using rules to make giveaways more fun is one of the best parts about having them in the 1st place.
As for the general discussion about using rules, I don't really see the problem, if you don't like a rule, nobody is forcing you to enter the giveaway. All you are expected to do is read the description, which I would think one should do anyways before entering a giveaway.
Post edited June 14, 2013 by K_1269
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Andanzas:
Heh, congrats again. Glad you liked it since the odds to win were really high for those who entered :).
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abolat: May I just point out that we have, in a mater of hours, managed to shift the tide of responsibility from the entrants, to the gifter (by requiring them to make rules in their giveaways that are in accordance with what people that enter giveaways want)... So basically, as an example, instead of saying "look people you can't open your gifts until Christmas Eve" we are saying "look you can't tell your kids they can't open their gifts until Christmas Eve"

I can agree with not banning members for not commenting as the gifter requested or whatever, but limiting people's rules on their giveaways seems kinda odd to me. As I see it, if the gifter made certain rules, he wants only those people that follow them or in most cases those who actually bother to read the description to enter his/her giveaways.

Not all rules on giveaways are made for leecher/scammers you know. some are just plain fun.

And just a note; I really think that if the rules are going to be made/changed, they should be put to a vote and not changed or made according to whoever makes the most vocal opposition or support for the changes or modifications.
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K_1269: I agree with abolat! This is more restricting than the original SG rules ( get rule preapproved with SG, no mention about restricting it to certain rules only). For example I had a giveaway sometime ago where I made the rule that only people who had not won a game on SG within the last 2 weeks or something like that could enter, SG approved that rule. Also think the potential of using rules to make giveaways more fun is one of the best parts about having them in the 1st place.
As for the general discussion about using rules, I don't really see the problem, if you don't like a rule, nobody is forcing you to enter the giveaway. All you are expected to do is read the description, which I would think one should do anyways before entering a giveaway.
Again, these rules are the only ones (right now) that will cause a warning/kick from the adms. Nothing is stopping you to make your own rules, and ask a reroll if someone broke it... SG style ;p
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K_1269:
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Stooner: Again, these rules are the only ones (right now) that will cause a warning/kick from the adms. Nothing is stopping you to make your own rules, and ask a reroll if someone broke it... SG style ;p
Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up for me Stooner! :) (...it's a bit late over here, should have read up on this in the morning...)
Post edited June 14, 2013 by K_1269
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Stooner: Again, these rules are the only ones (right now) that will cause a warning/kick from the adms. Nothing is stopping you to make your own rules, and ask a reroll if someone broke it... SG style ;p
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K_1269: Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up for me Stooner! :) (...it's a bit late over here...)
No worries.. glad to be useful.. ;p
My brain cells are also half asleep, but that's their normal behavior, I guess. ;p
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niniendowarrior: I skimmed through this, but basically, what I do now is skip all the giveaways with rules. It feels like people are out to get folks who make minor mistakes or manage to misread them. If you wish to have rules on your giveaways, it's your given right though.
When one skims thru something, they don't understand anything that is being said. If what you said is your interpretation after skimming thru this thread, then I feel bad for you that you misunderstood everything.
Post edited June 14, 2013 by teshra
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niniendowarrior: I skimmed through this, but basically, what I do now is skip all the giveaways with rules. It feels like people are out to get folks who make minor mistakes or manage to misread them. If you wish to have rules on your giveaways, it's your given right though.
RULE: You are not allowed to comment if you skimmed.

Just joking in order to keep the tone down. :-)
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niniendowarrior: I skimmed through this, but basically, what I do now is skip all the giveaways with rules. It feels like people are out to get folks who make minor mistakes or manage to misread them. If you wish to have rules on your giveaways, it's your given right though.
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teshra: When one skims thru something, they don't understand anything that is being said. If what you said is your interpretation after skimming thru this thread, then I feel bad for you that you misunderstood everything.
Thanks!
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teshra: When one skims thru something, they don't understand anything that is being said. If what you said is your interpretation after skimming thru this thread, then I feel bad for you that you misunderstood everything.
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niniendowarrior: Thanks!
You're welcome. Try to follow the discussion when its happening next time instead of proudly proclaiming the discussion is not worth your time. In a way, your comment is a microcosm of the whole discussion that's taken place here the last few days.
Oh, and before you say thanks again for something you're clearly unable to understand, you're welcome for this teaching moment as well.
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Ok, all this rules talk has gotten me curious, therefore I'm using some of these new rules to see how well this will work. So please make sure to read the description before entering!

Mass Effect:
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/lfM5Q/mass-effect
thanks K1269!!!
heres some Rep for your generosity! +1

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K_1269: Ok, all this rules talk has gotten me curious, therefore I'm using some of these new rules to see how well this will work. So please make sure to read the description before entering!

Mass Effect:
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/lfM5Q/mass-effect