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Posted July 29, 2015
what is the point of including games that don't work correctly without steam, i.e. not being able to save?
I think those can safely be removed. Or at least put into their own category, for those who don't care about have to complete the game in one session ;). But I would think for most gamers that simply wouldn't be an option.

are you sure about the paradox games? At least for Crusader Kings II i remember that the DLCs don't work if launched without steam. Of course it would be great if they had patched that behaviour by now.
Posted July 29, 2015
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immi101: are you sure about the paradox games? At least for Crusader Kings II i remember that the DLCs don't work if launched without steam. Of course it would be great if they had patched that behaviour by now.
Not sure about Europa Universalis IV, but it seems to have been fixed for Crusader Kings 2's DLCs.
Post edited July 29, 2015 by Grargar
Posted July 29, 2015
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pedrovay2003: Those Quake and HeXen pages are for mods made by players, right? Do you think we should start a section in the wiki for games that work without Steam after being modded? I'm wondering if stuff like that should be separated (I've been thinking about that ever since I first saw Fallout 3 on the list.)
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Grargar: There is already such a section in the wiki; Patchable Games. Doom 3 BFG Edition is included there, which can be made independent of the Steam client, thanks to a source port (similarly to my examples). Of course, if you disagree with Doom 3 BFG Edition's entry in the section, then you'll disagree with my examples as well (at least for this section).

On another note, Eradicator and NAM, being DOSBox games, can run without the Steam client. Interestingly enough, a bin/cue image of the games' discs can be found in a subfolder of the games' installation directory. I suspect this might also be the case for other Night Dive games.
Ah, okay, you're right. I really need to familiarize myself with what was already on that wiki before I found it.

Actually, this brings up an interesting thing that I wanted to collectively ask everyone about: What are we considering "near-official" when it comes to patches? I'm pretty sure FOSE isn't made by Bethesda, but instructions telling us to download FOSE to make Fallout 3 DRM-free are on the page, and Fallout 3 isn't even in the patchable games section. Should I move it, or should I delete it, or something else entirely? And how about these Quake games, are those patches near-official? I believe Doom 3 BFG would be okay in there, since the actual source code for the game was released to the public; do we have a consensus about this, or am I just way overthinking it? Either way, I'll add the Quake stuff when I can get to a computer.



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immi101: what is the point of including games that don't work correctly without steam, i.e. not being able to save?
I think those can safely be removed. Or at least put into their own category, for those who don't care about have to complete the game in one session ;). But I would think for most gamers that simply wouldn't be an option.
I think they should still be listed, personally. Look at stuff like Goat Simulator, which is just a gigantic, silly sandbox. Save data doesn't really do a whole lot in that game, but it's still tons of fun to play around in it for a while.
Post edited July 29, 2015 by pedrovay2003
Posted July 29, 2015
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pedrovay2003: And how about these Quake games, are those patches near-official? I believe Doom 3 BFG would be okay in there, since the actual source code for the game was released to the public; do we have a concensus about this, or am I just way overthinking it?
If you are OK with letting Doom 3 BFG on the list because its source code was released to the public, then you should be OK adding Quake 1+2+3/HeXen II to the list, because the source code for all these 4 games was also released to the public.
Posted July 30, 2015
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pedrovay2003: And how about these Quake games, are those patches near-official? I believe Doom 3 BFG would be okay in there, since the actual source code for the game was released to the public; do we have a concensus about this, or am I just way overthinking it?
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Grargar: If you are OK with letting Doom 3 BFG on the list because its source code was released to the public, then you should be OK adding Quake 1+2+3/HeXen II to the list, because the source code for all these 4 games was also released to the public.
Okay, cool. I didn't know that, but that's good enough for me; if the developers want everyone to have fun with it, then I say it's not a problem! The list has been updated, and thanks for going back and forth with me with all that information.
Post edited July 30, 2015 by pedrovay2003
Posted July 30, 2015
I just added Race The Sun to the list, which is completely free through Steam for today only.

EDIT: Holy hell, DO NOT bother with Race The Sun without Steam running; nothing works correctly. There's a DRM-free version available on the developer's website; go for that one instead.
Post edited July 31, 2015 by pedrovay2003
Posted July 31, 2015
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pedrovay2003: EDIT: Holy hell, DO NOT bother with Race The Sun without Steam running; nothing works correctly. There's a DRM-free version available on the developer's website; go for that one instead.
Alternatively...
Posted July 31, 2015
Somewhat related. In Origin downloading and installing Crysis 1 creates a shortcut.exe thus you can play the game without logging into EA Origin.
Posted August 01, 2015
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pedrovay2003: EDIT: Holy hell, DO NOT bother with Race The Sun without Steam running; nothing works correctly. There's a DRM-free version available on the developer's website; go for that one instead.
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Grargar: Alternatively...
Oh, snap, I didn't know this had been released here! I'm all kinds of good with that.


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Elmofongo: Somewhat related. In Origin downloading and installing Crysis 1 creates a shortcut.exe thus you can play the game without logging into EA Origin.
Ooh, this is interesting. Origin doesn't run AT ALL when you start it with the shortcut?
Post edited August 01, 2015 by pedrovay2003
Posted August 01, 2015
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Grargar: Alternatively...
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pedrovay2003: Oh, snap, I didn't know this had been released here! I'm all kinds of good with that.

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Elmofongo: Somewhat related. In Origin downloading and installing Crysis 1 creates a shortcut.exe thus you can play the game without logging into EA Origin.
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pedrovay2003: Ooh, this is interesting. Origin doesn't run AT ALL when you start it with the shortcut?
Not at all from how much I played, I ever remember playing it when I absolute have no internet connection.

And I assume the same can be said for Crysis Warhead though I have never played it.
Posted August 01, 2015
Thomas was Alone is another game you don't need Steam to boot it.
Posted August 01, 2015
Screencheat has been added to the list!

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Elmofongo: Not at all from how much I played, I ever remember playing it when I absolute have no internet connection.

And I assume the same can be said for Crysis Warhead though I have never played it.
Well, that's awesome. I don't remember if I have Crysis in my Origin account (since I haven't had Origin installed for a long time), but I'm going to have to try that. Thanks for the info!


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ThePunishedSnake: Thomas was Alone is another game you don't need Steam to boot it.
Thanks for checking! Thomas Was Along seems to already be on the list, so we're good there (I don't know if it was just recently added, or if it's been there for a while).
Post edited August 01, 2015 by pedrovay2003
Posted August 01, 2015
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pedrovay2003: snip
Don't forget my post above, specifically, this part:
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Grargar: On another note, Eradicator and NAM, being DOSBox games, can run without the Steam client. Interestingly enough, a bin/cue image of the games' discs can be found in a subfolder of the games' installation directory. I suspect this might also be the case for other Night Dive games.
Posted August 01, 2015
This one!
Great game btw ;p
Posted August 02, 2015
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pedrovay2003: snip
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Grargar: Don't forget my post above, specifically, this part:
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Grargar: On another note, Eradicator and NAM, being DOSBox games, can run without the Steam client. Interestingly enough, a bin/cue image of the games' discs can be found in a subfolder of the games' installation directory. I suspect this might also be the case for other Night Dive games.
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Grargar:
Yup, I've got that updated. Thanks for the info!


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vicklemos: This one!
Great game btw ;p
Thanks! What OS did you test this on?
Post edited August 02, 2015 by pedrovay2003
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