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In another anti-consumer move, Steam drops support for the last PC-based offline stable great OS next year. All your purchased games that were released 10-20 years ago and work fine on XP (let alone 7) are now won't be playable on 7 without some community bypasses.

All because multibillion Valve is too lazy and too greedy to develop a legacy game downloader for 98/XP/7 users and keeps using Chromium for everything.

No GOG - no buy.
Post edited March 28, 2023 by VBProject
Honestly, you shouldn't have Windows 7 connected to net. It's a security risk since there are no more official security updates being made.

In any case, if you want something that is more respecting of user decisions and choices, Linux. It'll run most Windows games these days, even those that "only" work on Windows XP or W7.

Not guaranteed though, but worth a shot. Plus you'll get an OS that's both up to date and not Windows 10/11.

Just my 2c.
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VBProject: In another anti-consumer move, Steam drops support for the last PC-based offline stable great OS next year. All your purchased games that were released 10-20 years ago and work fine on XP (let alone 7) are now won't be playable on 7 without some community bypasses.
I don't use W7, however it does highlight the potential absurdity of where will we may be in 10 years time - "In order to download your DRM-Free games you need to use our client that only runs on Windows 365. Subscribe now to get your DRM-Free games today!" (Meanwhile, the pirates will continue to have no such OS version restrictions...) Probably not an issue for most Steam users, but GOG might want to stop and think about the obvious contradiction there if they head down that route in being a little too restrictive (that benefits Microsoft far more than it does GOG).
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SitcomAntibody: Honestly, you shouldn't have Windows 7 connected to net. It's a security risk since there are no more official security updates being made.
In my experience that's mostly overblown for domestic users. In fact whenever someone boasts how "secure" they are for running Windows 10-11 vs Windows 7-8, the first thing I ask is "Did you change your Windows firewall to whitelist (block by default, allow by exception) plus disable all the back-door services like Remote Desktop, Remote Registry, Windows Remote Management, etc? Or are you still running W10-11 in default configuration where the OS will happily allow any and all malware to 'phone home' by default?"... Someone on W7 with a whitelist based firewall plus all the "official backdoor services" closed is already 100x more secure than the default W10 configuration is in practise.
Post edited March 28, 2023 by BrianSim
If I correctly remember, the Win7 drop is due the Chrome/Chromium dropped support wich they use.
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VBProject: In another anti-consumer move, Steam drops support for the last PC-based offline stable great OS next year. All your purchased games that were released 10-20 years ago and work fine on XP (let alone 7) are now won't be playable on 7 without some community bypasses.
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BrianSim: I don't use W7, however it does highlight the potential absurdity of where will we may be in 10 years time - "In order to download your DRM-Free games you need to use our client that only runs on Windows 365. Subscribe now to get your DRM-Free games today!" (Meanwhile, the pirates will continue to have no such OS version restrictions...) Probably not an issue for most Steam users, but GOG might want to stop and think about the obvious contradiction there if they head down that route in being a little too restrictive (that benefits Microsoft far more than it does GOG).
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SitcomAntibody: Honestly, you shouldn't have Windows 7 connected to net. It's a security risk since there are no more official security updates being made.
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BrianSim: In my experience that's mostly overblown for domestic users. In fact whenever someone boasts how "secure" they are for running Windows 10-11 vs Windows 7-8, the first thing I ask is "Did you change your Windows firewall to whitelist (block by default, allow by exception) plus disable all the back-door services like Remote Desktop, Remote Registry, Windows Remote Management, etc? Or are you still running W10-11 in default configuration where the OS will happily allow any and all malware to 'phone home' by default?"... Someone on W7 with a whitelist based firewall plus all the "official backdoor services" closed is already 100x more secure than the default W10 configuration is in practise.
Except you are forgetting one thing.

Every time you load a website, your computer downloads and then runs a script (Javascript). If that script is malicious and your browser is out of date, it could "pwn" your system and you wouldn't even know it. Sure, you can block scripts. But if you do, a ton of websites will simply stop working these days.

Also, lest we forget when you download games or applications to your computer, which could also carry something nasty.

Besides, it's not your security I'm concerned so much about, but rather it's when your computer gets infected and silently joins a botnet and starts being used to attack peoples servers and send spam, it's a royal pain in the butt.
So when will they remove win 10 support from steam?
Just because win 11 came out.
This wouldn't be a problem for win 10 if it was supported forever and win 11 never came out as they said win 10 was the last one, but guess not.
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VBProject: Steam drops support for the last PC-based offline stable great OS next year.
What you are saying doesn't really make sense to me. You can't have an offline PC that uses Steam. You have to download the current client & you have to authenticate yourself. That's always been true.

Anyways, I encourage you to explore Linux because Windows is Trojan software designed to exploit you and Linux can play your old Windows games just fine.
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Fonzer: So when will they remove win 10 support from steam?
I assume they'll do it soon after MS no longer supports it.
Post edited March 28, 2023 by EverNightX
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VBProject: In another anti-consumer move, Steam drops support for the last PC-based offline stable great OS next year.

No GOG - no buy.
Then it shouldn't be your problem to begin with, so... what's the problem?
GOG Galaxy uses CEF as well and for those with offline installers thinking they are safe as long as the game uses the galaxy.dll and it's no longer compatible with < 10 then there goes your offline installer plans unless you find a workaround. (Hexedit the .dll or possibly the GOG Galaxy emu)
Seems like a good idea for GOG to make an announcement on their plans to not make the same mistakes as Valve but I doubt it, they likely don't have the resources.

The only reason CEF is used by these developers is their laziness and ineptitude. A game launcher does not need CEF.
Considering how little GOG does with Galaxy I'm fearful of what they would do with a launcher without CEF.....
Post edited March 28, 2023 by DosFreak
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DosFreak: GOG Galaxy uses CEF as well and for those with offline installers thinking they are safe as long as the game uses the galaxy.dll and it's no longer compatible with < 10 then there goes your offline installer plans unless you find a workaround. (Hexedit the .dll or possibly the GOG Galaxy emu)
Seems like a good idea for GOG to make an announcement on their plans to not make the same mistakes as Valve but I doubt it, they likely don't have the resources.

The only reason CEF is used by these developers is their laziness and ineptitude. A game launcher does not need CEF.
Considering how little GOG does with Galaxy I'm fearful of what they would do with a launcher without CEF.....
Ouch, that's terrible to know..
And yeah, GOG won't change a thing -_-'
Good riddance. What are people still doing still on Windows 7?
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DosFreak: there goes your offline installer plans unless you find a workaround.
You are talking about Galaxy, not the game right? As long as the game installs and plays with the offline installer Galaxy is not really a concern.
Post edited March 28, 2023 by EverNightX
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VBProject: Steam drops support for the last PC-based offline stable great OS next year.
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EverNightX: What you are saying doesn't really make sense to me. You can't have an offline PC that uses Steam. You have to download the current client & you have to authenticate yourself. That's always been true.
No. You can backup the steam client and your games and restore to an offline pc and it will run fine.
More info here: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/how_to_run_steam_games_offline_forever_tutorial
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DosFreak: GOG Galaxy uses CEF as well and for those with offline installers thinking they are safe as long as the game uses the galaxy.dll and it's no longer compatible with < 10 then there goes your offline installer plans unless you find a workaround. (Hexedit the .dll or possibly the GOG Galaxy emu)
Most games do not use galaxy.dll though. Many games that do can still run without galaxy.dll too. From the games I have just checked, only AVP classic seems to refuse to launch without it.

I also think that the galaxy.dll is far too small to contain CEF. Neither do I think that GOG will go out of their way to update every single installer with the latest version of Galaxy.dll, let's be real. Every game with galaxy.dll that I have checked had it with a different size. GOG still haven't integrated patches into some base installers, like Dragon Age Origins after all this time, so I suspect those galaxy.dlls are gonna be hardly different.
Post edited March 28, 2023 by SargonAelther
Yeah I think this has to be seen as a bad sign for people who want to preserve old games and keep their options open.