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rojimboo: It uses Arch, btw.
Damn the meme.

I wonder how well I'd do in Team Fortress 2 with that device? Probably end up last all the time.

Anyway, now I've gotten a bit renewed interest to GPD Win 2, if it can be considered as an ultra-portable "laptop" which can do some games too. And is not as married to Steam as Steam Deck probably is.

I wonder if one can install Linux on GDP Win 2, if so inclined? Googling... If it supports only Windows 10, then I guess it will die in 2025.

ANYWAY, somehow I feel handhelds and such would benefit more from ARM CPU as it is more energy-efficient, but then that would seriously limit their use for (PC) gaming...
Post edited July 17, 2021 by timppu
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Slick_JMista: the good news is that you can install a windows OS and play gog games on it.
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Darvond: But why? Proton/Wine would make that redundant, and you'd gain nothing.
only in your dreams
they only way proton could handle all the win games if ms would give out the dll-s needed for them
Post edited July 17, 2021 by Orkhepaj
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timppu: And is not as married to Steam as Steam Deck probably is.
its not.
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DoomSooth: You're going to give money to Valve so you can run things from GOG?
Crazy, ain't it?
(with me, it's more because I don't see the need to buy another device to run my games when my current one runs many games just fine)

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Crosmando: They really missed the bus by not calling it the GabeBoy
Lol
Post edited July 17, 2021 by GamezRanker
I've been looking to get a handheld gaming device and if my choices are:
a) a Nintendo Switch, or
b) a Steam Deck

I'm going to choose the Steam Deck 100%, because:
1) I don't have to buy any new games for many years, because I already have a large Steam collection
2) I can play the type of games I enjoy the most, instead of being limited by Nintendo
3) I want to support PC gaming, not Nintendo

So I do plan on pre-ordering one. Considering I don't have to buy any games, I could even get one of the more expensive versions.
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I think it's a really good idea. But I don't really know if they will support it with newer version in the future and I don't want to buy version 1 with the usual 1.0 problems.
I'll wait for version 2 if the make it.
just saw the pre order announcements over at steam, 419 euro's for the cheapest version and 679 euro's for the most expensive one....

i rather keep saving my allowance for a i9 and a nvdia 70's card from the coming 4000 line
It is long overdue for Galaxy to have a client for Linux. GameHub and Minigalaxy are ok, but don't have integration with achievements and cloud saves. If we do get Galaxy for Linux, it would be nice to have these two main features:

1. Play native Linux games and integrate like Windows with cloud saves and achievements.

2. Playing Windows games in Linux will give the option to play with Proton if Steam is installed. Also allow the user to use custom Proton versions like Proton-GE: https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom/releases
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mqstout: One of the reasons a lot of Linux versions don't get released here/DRM-free is because they use Steam-proprietary libraries that have questionable licensing and developers won't release them here, even when they do Windows versions. This would only make that worse; another Trojan Horse lock-in feature.
I don't think Steam drm had anything to do with the fact that Feral couldn't be arsed to support the linux port of XCOM2 on GOG.

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mqstout: And my initial reply was specifically about the garbage of kernel-level anti-cheat, which is an disgusting cost no matter how many people it might bring to try using a Linux device.
And we can agree on kernel level anti-cheat - but not about the benefits allowing Valorant/Apex Legends folk onto Linux. The power is always in the hands of the user - if they decide they want to compromise their system to play a game, then so be it. It's like accusing Linux as an OS of being faulty when there's a security breach in one of the apps - same thing here. Just because the option exists for the user to use the app or play the game, doesn't mean everyone will or should do it, and it's not the fault of the OS.

And we still don't know how Valve/Proton will implement the anti-cheats - sand-boxed, how isolated, how similar to existing, maybe stripped down?, how? We still don't know. Worse case scenario, the windows users willing to do it, can do it should they choose to. The rest of linux gamers won't. Nothing will change, expect more linux gamers out there, benefitting me.

The point here is, that this whole thing is bigger than just isolated games or a few Linux hardened users detesting drm.
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LiefLayer: I think it's a really good idea. But I don't really know if they will support it with newer version in the future and I don't want to buy version 1 with the usual 1.0 problems.
I'll wait for version 2 if the make it.
like with the controller?:O
I don’t understand why so much Linux players seem to be happy about this…

Proton is not WINE: Proton is part of Valve walled garden, no matter its licencing it is not expected to work cleanly for non-Steam users. So while this new gaming platform might be good news for Valve Linux customers, it is most probably going to bring no benefit to anti-DRM Linux players.

It might even have an adverse effect outside of Valve ecosystem, because of the incentive to target Proton (remember: not WINE) instead of native builds.
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vv221: I don’t understand why so much Linux players seem to be happy about this…

Proton is not WINE: Proton is part of Valve walled garden, no matter its licencing it is not expected to work cleanly for non-Steam users. So while this new gaming platform might be good news for Valve Linux customers, it is most probably going to bring no benefit to anti-DRM Linux players.

It might even have an adverse effect outside of Valve ecosystem, because of the incentive to target Proton (remember: not WINE) instead of native builds.
Does eating the FUD really taste so good? The license is permissive, and work in Proton has already been pulled back into mainline Wine.

(That's why it suddenly jumped from 4 to 6 in a matter of months.)
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vv221: I don’t understand why so much Linux players seem to be happy about this…

Proton is not WINE: Proton is part of Valve walled garden, no matter its licencing it is not expected to work cleanly for non-Steam users. So while this new gaming platform might be good news for Valve Linux customers, it is most probably going to bring no benefit to anti-DRM Linux players.
I don't think it's like that.

Like others have pointed out, Wine benefits from fixes in Proton too. Custom Wine staging versions especially incorporate many patches from Proton (and elsewhere) like TkG, or Wine-GE. And vice versa.

DXVK has been funded by Valve for quite some time, and we are all the beneficiaries of that project.

VKD3D-proton is making leaps and bounds in dx12 gaming, and you don't need 'Valve's walled-in garden' to enjoy that.

For all intents and purposes, this is a massive thing for Linux gaming, and it's all thanks to (unfortunately) Valve, like it or not.
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Darvond: The license is permissive, and work in Proton has already been pulled back into mainline Wine.
I know Proton is open source. It does not make it magically usable outside of Valve ecosystem.
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Darvond: The license is permissive, and work in Proton has already been pulled back into mainline Wine.
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vv221: I know Proton is open source. It does not make it magically usable outside of Valve ecosystem.
oh no , so i wont be able to run my games on linux?:O