I guess all the sci-fi lied to me, not just Star Wars :P I mean, all ships in all the games and movies would always have some "top speed". I guess I just accepted that and never questioned it.

Ok, ok. I concede. I mean, I still don't exactly *get* it, but I see I was wrong. That's the problem with being a nerd with a background in humanities rather than science :P

EDIT: Still, I'm going to cut myself a little slack - the ships still should keep going when out of fuel, not drift "dead in the water" the way they did in the movie. I'm pretty sure that while you guys are right, the people making the movie didn't have your explanation in mind, but rather never consider what I brought up in the first place.

Rey lived all her life on a desert planet. So...where did she learn to swim?

it's a fair question but I fear we might start getting a little too picky here. :P If we are going to get into this much detail, EVERY movie can be torn to pieces.

It reminds me of someone tearing the first Star Trek reboot to pieces because you see Kirk driving a car, yet in one scene of the original show he said he can't drive a car. XD

Then we need a new thread because I have TONS OF SHIT to add! :P

MASSIVE (ish) SPOILERS! Don't read if you care!!!


So I finally saw it. I thought the beginning was a bit boring but the fights (fleet on fleet and saber battles) were pretty great. Also, if you're in the Star Wars universe, DO NOT BE the largest most powerful oversided bloated space vessel in the galaxy because you ARE getting wiped out totally accidentally by a snub fighter. LOL - that's always bothered me. At least with the Executor you see the guy screaming to get the bridge shields back online but even that was like "What?"

Lame things I liked: the horse foxes - stupid, but fun scene.

Things that bothered me - I was so curious about the origin of Rey and Snoke - two of the most anticlimatic moments EVER (at least with Rey it was an interesting plot device). But seriously - Snoke - really? We get nothing?

Also that Rey / Kylo / Snoke scene - I SO thought they might take a complete left hand turn and have Rey turn over. She SO acts like she's falling to the Dark Side there. I didn't have a problem with her defeating Kylo in the first one because she was convicted, determined, focused. And Kylo is unsure, conflicted.
Contrast that with the Snoke scene and it seems like Rey's conviction and determination have turned to hate and aggression, while Kylo is still unsure and conflicted - but this time like maybe he's going to turn to Light. Would have been super interesting if she moves down a Dark path and Kylo is the one still unsure about the Dark Side and his place in all this - really thought it could happen. Really liked his pitch to Rey though "No Light. No Dark..."

They kill the most interesting new character! I really liked the Fleet Admiral and she was a decent actress as well. Seriously, Poe sucks and the new one would have been a "classic" Rebel leader - and they freaking kill her! Holdon? Hondo?

Rose kind of sucks and I dislike her more so because I thought there was a shot, if the series moves far enough along we could see Finn / Rey. Finn wields a lightsaber at one point which points to the fact that maybe he isn't a true force user but has some attunement to the Force - I was hoping we'd get to see a powerful child of Finn and Rey. Plus they have a neat chemistry at times that I thought was moving toward a relationship. Nope, just boring Rose (seriously, her sister was a more interesting character in all of four scenes before she's blown up, and basically without delivering a line).

You don't have to be a force user to wield a lightsaber. You just press the button, activate it, and swing it.

And then you cut your arm off and bleed to death.

Check this out: http://www.askajedi.com/2010/09/09/ask-a-jedi-can-non-force-users-can-wield-a-light-saber/

Worked for Han Solo when he used it to cut the Tauntaun open.

Yeah, but that Finn guy was a stormtrooper once. Those guys are so clumsy they can't even use their rifles properly, never hit anything. So it would be logical if he had impaled himself on that lightsaber.
Just imagine if he had accidentally switched it on when it pointed at his chest. That would have been pretty fun as a scene imo.

Was it a chase? My impression was that Rebels jus used support ships as living shield for their flagship. I mean there is no "chase" if one side can just FTL some of their ships ahead.
SW IS relativistic. The whole stars-become-lines mode point is to go FTL.
In the same place, she learned Force Persuade and lightsaber fight.

It's most definately a chase. A very slow chase. There is nothing said or done to indicate that the other ships are being used to shield the main one. And if that was the case, it wouldn't last ten minutes against full firepower of those destroyers. The whole point is that they are too far for the Empi... >sigh< First Order ships weapons to be effective, and the First Order can't catch up.

As to why they don't use the hyperdrive to have some of their ships get ahead of them and sorround them... there is no why, there is only because. Hell, I assume there must be other ships they could call in to cut them off. If what we've seen here is the entire First Order fleet, then I have no idea how they're supposed to have taken over the whole galaxy.
http://i.imgur.com/gsfJYr0.jpg

I had a feeling this was going to struggle in China, but it's a bona-fide bomb. There was a total of 5 people in the audience when the film started. Disney apparently wrapped their heads around the fact that no one in China knows anything about Star Wars, so they even put in explanatory multilingual (English and Chinese) intertitles for introducing characters and plot points from earlier movies (like when R2 plays Leia's message from the original trilogy).

As for the movie itself, well... reading IMDB reviews already inoculated me against the most hardcore retardation this film has to offer. Still, that scene with Leia - you know the one - still managed to make me cringe. It's a pretty terrible movie, but I'm still a bit surprised by the hostility it got from audiences this time around. Hollywood's been churning out equally retarded garbage for years now and it doesn't get called out, it gets celebrated. The Star Trek reboot is easily as stupid as this, yet people were drooling all over it.

And yet Warcraft was a mega success there.