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Posted December 25, 2017
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De4thstroke: Romance in the movie? Yeah, I'll pass. I'm interested in a science fiction action movie, not some romance bullshit. I'm sick of Hollywood trying to merge different genres into one to make as much money as possible. I want to see space battles, light saber battles, the light side vs the dark side. I want to see the main characters grow into bad asses. I want to see villains terrorizing the galaxy. All the stuff that made the original Star Wars movies great. And the romance between Han and Leia was tolerable because it came very naturally and it was done in a way that wasn't obnoxious. Like it wasn't in your face so fast. And didn't take over the movie. So I'm willing to overlook that romance but other romances in movies. No way. None of my money for you, Last Jedi...
Yup. If there was going to be romance, it needed to be natural and not detract from the main story and the action.

Unfortunately, both garbage romantic subplots were 80% of the movie... The villains were ranged from horrendous to downright pathetic and/or stupid.
Post edited December 25, 2017 by Snowflakez
Posted December 25, 2017
One thing that I haven't seen addressed in this topic yet:

How's the music? Is it good like the original trilogy, is it just "there" like in TFA, or is it something like Rogue One, which sounds almost, but not quite familiar?

(I still haven't actually seen the movie.)
Posted December 25, 2017
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dtgreene: One thing that I haven't seen addressed in this topic yet:

How's the music? Is it good like the original trilogy, is it just "there" like in TFA, or is it something like Rogue One, which sounds almost, but not quite familiar?

(I still haven't actually seen the movie.)
Good question. I can't answer this with much specificity because, honestly, it just sounded like more of the same "Star Wars-y" music to me. It didn't stick out as anything particularly good or bad.

By contrast, Bladerunner's soundtrack was incredibly memorable and quite good in my opinion. Some movies just really jump out at me as far as the music goes, others (like TLJ) just bleed together.
Post edited December 25, 2017 by Snowflakez
Posted December 25, 2017
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Gylfe: They butchered the story, including everything TFA established, and force the directors radical politics down your throat.
Being sick of SJW crap myself, I think that in this particular example you are mistaken. After all Rogue One was also a huge "diversity" platform and yet it's still a decent movie. IMHO this time the director/writer just wasn't able to come up with anything (so all the plot moves are just reordered plot moves from Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi), so he decided to put "social justice" agenda thinking "well, at least feminists will be happy".
Post edited December 25, 2017 by LootHunter
Posted December 25, 2017
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dtgreene: One thing that I haven't seen addressed in this topic yet:

How's the music? Is it good like the original trilogy, is it just "there" like in TFA, or is it something like Rogue One, which sounds almost, but not quite familiar?

(I still haven't actually seen the movie.)
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Snowflakez: Good question. I can't answer this with much specificity because, honestly, it just sounded like more of the same "Star Wars-y" music to me. It didn't stick out as anything particularly good or bad.

By contrast, Bladerunner's soundtrack was incredibly memorable and quite good in my opinion. Some movies just really jump out at me as far as the music goes, others (like TLJ) just bleed together.
Was the soundtrack for the original trilogy memorable to you?
Posted December 25, 2017
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Snowflakez: OK movie, overall. Nothing special.

I liked Bladerunner 2049 (I know, I know...) and even its original more than this
Both Blade Runners are absolute masterpieces that not even the original Star Wars trilogy comes close to, not to even mention this one.

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Snowflakez: As far as the former goes, it drove me nuts that Rose -- who has essentially just fuckin' met this guy -- is trying to prevent Finn from potentially saving the remaining rebels. As Finn sped towards the cannon, I was cheering inside. A heroic sacrifice that serves a purpose - he's resigned himself to his fate, he's ready to die for the cause...

BUT WAIT. Ultra-Forced-Love-Interest is here to save the day.

Yes, Fin would have most likely died if Rose hadn't done what she did (Though I don't buy that he couldn't have just jumped out and survived, given the fact that another speeder crashed into him at high speed and he was just fine, if a bit bruised up), but the cannon would be destroyed, eliminating the biggest present threat
That was probably the scene I hated the most in the entire movie. Everything you already mentioned + two things. First, ramming her fighter into his at full speed was just as likely to kill him, so it was the most retarded way to save someone I can imagine. Second, if Luke didn't show up, and she didn't know he would, she would have "saved" Finn for about five minutes, becasue thanks to her they were all about to fucking die.

I absolutely hate Rose. She was annoying and useless before that scene, and with that scene she became the Jar Jar Binks of this trilogy for me. I guess she was written in to appeal to fangirls :P

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Snowflakez: As to the latter -- the Rei/Kylo romance (?) -- oh, hey, we're like connected and stuff, so let's love each other or something.
When the "shirtless Kylo" thing happened I just laughed and thought to myself "ok, great, we're officialy entering Twilight territory here".

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dtgreene: One thing that I haven't seen addressed in this topic yet:

How's the music? Is it good like the original trilogy, is it just "there" like in TFA, or is it something like Rogue One, which sounds almost, but not quite familiar?
It's pretty much the "just there like in TFA" scenario. The only moments you really notice it is when it plays the classic music form the originals.
Post edited December 25, 2017 by Breja
Posted December 25, 2017
Since everyone is cherry picking Mark Hamill interviews, I'll do my thing:

"It's not the Luke from the Original Trilogy. It's the Luke from the new generation.
Posted December 25, 2017
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DaCostaBR: It's not the Luke from the Original Trilogy. It's the Luke from the new generation.
Yes, that's correct. The problem is millenial generation as a whole and their attitude in particular.
Posted December 25, 2017
Well, this waaaaaas a fun thread. :P

I think the only ones trying to make a political thing out of it are the few dorks in here trying to make a political thing out of it. :P
Post edited December 25, 2017 by tinyE
Posted December 25, 2017
I watched SW8 too.
It's slightly better than the useless SW7, but sadly it's still weak.
Beautiful scenes, crap characters, stupid events, random lore.
I kinda enjoyed seeing explosions and battles, but for the rest I cringed all the time.
The prequels have problems, but this new trilogy.. is a disaster.
Post edited December 25, 2017 by phaolo
Posted December 25, 2017
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tinyE: Well, this waaaaaas a fun thread. :P

I think the only ones trying to make a political thing out of it are the few dorks in here trying to make a political thing out of it. :P
Wait, people are trying to make a political thing out of it? How? Why? I didn't notice (Granted, I didn't read through all 14 pages). The movie seemed pretty milquetoast to me as far as politics go. No statements one way or the other, no agenda one way or the other. Just Star Wars. Only point of possible contention (?) I can think of is the whole "Female Lead" thing, but Rei isn't even the sole main character (not that it'd be a problem if she was) so that's a moot point.
Post edited December 25, 2017 by Snowflakez
Posted December 25, 2017
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tinyE: Well, this waaaaaas a fun thread. :P

I think the only ones trying to make a political thing out of it are the few dorks in here trying to make a political thing out of it. :P
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Snowflakez: Wait, people are trying to make a political thing out of it?
there are two post in here doing that yes. :P Neither are yours.
Posted December 25, 2017
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phaolo: The prequels have problems, but this new trilogy.. is a disaster.
Oh come on, the new trilogy has a fuckton of problems, and they are definately not exactly "good", but in no realm of reality are they worse than the prequels. In fact it's the very awfulness of the prequels that makes them watchable - whatever they do here, there is no more "shock value" left to fucking up Star Wars,

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Snowflakez: Wait, people are trying to make a political thing out of it? How? Why?
Because it's 2017. A movie has a lead that isn't a white male? It's radical leftist SJW propaganda. A movie has a white male lead? It's misogynistic, sexist alt-righ propaganda. And so it goes.
Post edited December 25, 2017 by Breja
Posted December 25, 2017
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Gylfe: Like everything else from Hollywood, it's a platform for feminist, leftist political statements. They butchered the story, including everything TFA established, and force the directors radical politics down your throat.
Choke on it, fascists.
Posted December 25, 2017
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phaolo: The prequels have problems, but this new trilogy.. is a disaster.
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Breja: Oh come on, the new trilogy has a fuckton of problems, and they are definately not exactly "good", but in no realm of reality are they worse than the prequels. In fact it's the very awfulness of the prequels that makes them watchable - whatever they do here, there is no more "shock value" left to fucking up Star Wars,
Eh, frankly if I had to choose between the 2 trilogies, I'd probably select the prequels.
I'll roll a bit my eyes during a few stupid scenes, instead of all the time with the new trilogy.
At least they improve towards the end. SW7+ seem hopeless.
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