I'm talking about animation quality here, not the show as a whole. There is story, voice acting and other stuff that makes the whole thing.

And I love cartoons- all the DC animated series, Kim Possible, Gravity Falls... lots of great stuff to be found there. Don't really consider them to be just for kids, a good show is good for all, and usually has stuff kids may not even get. Rebels so far is not as good as any of those, but it started strong with a good pilot, and is so far the only indication of what Star Wars will look like under Disney, so I'm curious. It's just the animation quality that I find really lackluster.

Have you ever seen this show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdpH-NUkjAM

nothing beats hand drawn, NOTHING.

also, watch samurai jack. just do it. also, invader zim.

Yeah my oldest quite enjoyed that one.
I never said cartoons was strictly for children. But Rebels is definitely a child focused cartoon. I have no intentions of watching at all without my kids. It's for them and it shows.

Mentioned it a while back. It was absolutely awesome, so good it made me excited for Episode III, though I should have known better. Still, the series was great, the only good thing to come from the prequels. Like I said, I wish Tartakowsky would make more like this in between episodes of the new trilogy.

It is, but I'm enough of a fan of Star Wars to be curious of it anyway. I want to see what Disney has in mind for SW. I probably won't watch beyond season I unless something changes, but I want to get a good feel of how Star Wars shapes up under new menagement, for a new generation.

Genndy Tartakovsky and he is my absolute favorite cartoonist. Its ashame he is not as widely recogized commpared to most popular Cartoons currently. (Adventure Time and Regular Show got Nothing on Dexter's Laboratory)

Darn straight! Tartakovsky is a genius. You should also watch tron uprising, some serious talent worked on it.

Boxleitner is always great, and Elijah Wood was good also, but the whole thing sufferd for the same reason TRON Legacy did- it's not really TRON. It's much more like Star Wars, and could as well be set on another planet as inside the computer. Everything that made TRON and it's setting special is lost, and we get something much more generic instead. Even the look is off- it's just neon lights now, instead of what was supposed to look like microcircuits. Not a bad show on it's own, but a far cry from what a TRON fan like myself hoped for. Also, the whole thing with an old mentor training a young guy to take his name and place as a vigilante was pretty much a straight up rip-off of Batman Beyond.

i see both the show and the sequel as an evolution of the look of tron; flynn wanted to make a virtual disneyland which backfired, so of course everything would look that way. the show, however, made it much more clear that this is a digital world(one episode goes into an area called compressed space, another shows how programs "dream", i.e. process information, and it even shows an identity disc's records being rewritten, kind of like how a document is revised.) the show is superior to the film, as it references the original much more(gridbugs, yori's suit, bit) and is very mature for the channel it was shown on.

tron 2.0, however, is much better, as like the first film, it it has a sort of optimism that people can really enjoy.

Rebels managed to annoy me today, and I haven't even seen any of it yet: Target was selling Christmas tree ornaments, one for the Empire and the Rebellion each. But instead of Vader, or a Stormtrooper, or... anything recognisable, they had this skinny Sith inquisitor on them. Would have bought a box-load of these otherwise :(

Thats awesome, might hunt down some of those for my kids. My youngest thinks Inquisitor is awesome and he is pretty cool.

Glad someone would enjoy them. They were a buy-two-get-one-free deal, too.

Haha yeah. I think the show has a lot of potential. It is sitting in the middle ground like Clone wars did for a while. It's either going to get good or just fail.

That's an excellent point, for those worrying on how well the story will be. I'm confident and am not worried by the story. Disney right now are the best actual storytellers in Hollywood right now. I'm even ok with the lightsaber thing everybody seems to be focused on.

My biggest gripe, which CAN be inferred from this teaser, is the cinematography. When you hire big-name directors, you get their style, and basically a formula that means the exact look to previous movies, just different characters. So, basically, with JJ we are getting Star Trek VII. Over-saturated, CGI everything, squeaky-clean and did I say CGi?

All these starry-eyed interviews of people telling us that there will be real, tactile sets on this movie seem to be FOS and missing the point that the dogfights need to be less CGI if the audience is to be drawn in. This teaser was almost complete animation and it's telling. The dogfights in ROTJ and ESB were awesome because the ships were real models. The only way to tell they were fake were the glass panels that they couldn't airbrush out. I think it truly is a lost art, because nobody seems to know how to do it anymore, and relies on video-game animation.