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General discussionStar Control games being removed from GOG(279 posts)(279 posts)
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Posted December 03, 2017
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Sielle: Not only is it free, but I remember it had an updated music pack that improved a LOT of the audio.
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Klumpen0815: Are you talking about this?
https://sourceforge.net/projects/urquanmastershd/
Or this?
http://sc2.sourceforge.net/downloads.php
is that legal? Looks like a clone which I would think, IS legal.
Post edited December 03, 2017 by tinyE
Posted December 03, 2017
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Klumpen0815: Are you talking about this?
https://sourceforge.net/projects/urquanmastershd/
Or this?
http://sc2.sourceforge.net/downloads.php
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tinyE: is that legal? Looks like a clone which I would think, IS legal.
It was built on the source code obtained directly from Toys for Bob. The game is a port of the 3D0 version of the game which was superior to the PC version. Toys for Bob wasn't interested in porting it, but gave the team the source code to do it themselves. So, it should be legal.
Posted December 03, 2017
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Sielle: Not only is it free, but I remember it had an updated music pack that improved a LOT of the audio.
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Klumpen0815: Are you talking about this?
https://sourceforge.net/projects/urquanmastershd/
Or this?
http://sc2.sourceforge.net/downloads.php
http://sc2.sourceforge.net/downloads.php

With the Remix Packs
Posted December 03, 2017
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elcook: snip
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Klumpen0815: Just a small note from me too, that this kind of information is highly appreciated, please keep it going.
I missed too many games on GOG some of which never came back.

Could you make those to be blue NEWS threads in the future?
It's quite important and shouldn't be missed.
I second both of these items.
Posted December 03, 2017
Oh man, that's sad.

I've read the blog post and see that they claim that Atari shouldn't have been selling them here even before Stardock supposedly bought the rights. I wonder why they didn't dispute this back when Atari was selling them here?

Either way, I had been under the impression that Ghosts of the Precursors was being made with the permission of Stardock but it sounds like from what Fred and Paul say Stardock pretty much only owns the name. This does explain why the Ur-Quan Masters exists, the game itself was Fred and Paul's to release but the name was at the time owned by Atari, hence the change to UQM.

I hope this finds in Fred and Paul's favour and the original games can come back here by mutual agreement.
Post edited December 03, 2017 by SirPrimalform
Posted December 03, 2017
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I told you .

Never trust in Brad Wardell .

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/ban_stardock_from_gog_and_remove_all_their_games
Post edited December 03, 2017 by Painted_Doll
Posted December 03, 2017
Well Star Control 2 is good fun, but holy cow that inertia of the ship is going to take some getting used to.
Posted December 03, 2017
EDIT: Whoops, my computer farted.
Post edited December 03, 2017 by SirPrimalform
Posted December 03, 2017
Maybe bored lawyers on either camps (or rather Stardock) sent pre-emptive C&Ds without bothering to check out with the companies?

Wasn't there a case like that a few months back where a Disney artist got a C&D from a Disney lawyer for having art looking too much like Disney works?
Posted December 03, 2017
such a shame. the legal system is also a shame as to why it takes so long for cases to be resolved
Posted December 03, 2017
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tinyE: is that legal? Looks like a clone which I would think, IS legal.
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paladin181: It was built on the source code obtained directly from Toys for Bob. The game is a port of the 3D0 version of the game which was superior to the PC version. Toys for Bob wasn't interested in porting it, but gave the team the source code to do it themselves. So, it should be legal.
Actually, the 3DO port was made by Crystal Dynamics and a lot of the assets belong to them. They probably never did anything about it since no money is being made or they never heard of it.

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Painted_Doll: I told you .

Never trust in Brad Wardell .

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/ban_stardock_from_gog_and_remove_all_their_games
I suggest you take a chill pill.
Post edited December 03, 2017 by Rhonin_Magus
Posted December 03, 2017
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Rhonin_Magus: Actually, the 3DO port was made by Crystal Dynamics and a lot of the assets belong to them. They probably never did anything about it since no money is being made or they never heard of it.
Those assets don't come with the UQM by default as far as I'm aware. The FMVs must be provided by the user if they want them. The 3DO source code probably continued to belong to TfB I guess as it's a derivative work.
Posted December 03, 2017
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Rhonin_Magus: I suggest you take a chill pill.
Why ? Stardock screwed me ( us ) more than once in the past .
Post edited December 03, 2017 by Painted_Doll
Posted December 03, 2017
Not good at all. I hope they will come back
Posted December 04, 2017
Bump to make the thread more visible before the games get removed.
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